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Toffee's_or_Roar wrote:moofa wrote:Championship hasn't done the full list yet but found these two as down as released Shane Lowry - Milwall Robert Paratore - Leicester
Melbourne City need a LB , maybe Lowry could be a target, seems to be out of favour in England, not a good sign if you cat hold down a contract at millwall, what about Macdonald? He's on the outer because they can't afford to keep him with his wage demands. Would be a huge shame to see him back in Australia. Has potential beyond our league.
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Lowry will surely end up with another Championship club - I would be very surprised if an announcement of his being snapped up by a Championship rival isn't announced soon enough? 100 appearances or so at Championship level, most of those with Millwall, though some with Sheff Utd too - Only 24yo too - he'll find a club over there! moofa wrote:I think Spurs last game of the season would have cemented Gallifuoco not getting a new contract. In the game Bentelab, Veljkovic and Pritchard all featured. All three are younger and Bentelab and Veljkovic are in similar positions. Being being other youth players in a big side means you are unlikely to feature. Highly rated though and regularly trained with the first team. I wouldn't be surprised if a Championship side went in for him. Hopefully he will be playing first team football next season and it will be interesting to see if he will be playing CB or CDM. Lets hope so! [-o< TBH That'd be a surprise, especially given more highly-rated and established players like Mass Luongo and Bradden Inman, ended up with League One clubs?! If he ends up in League One that'd be ok too, perhaps more realistic - if it a Champ or Loan club, hopefully it's one who plays in a style that is more 'modern'. Those clubs do exist in England's lower leagues, but our players and their agents need to do their due diligence in finding them from amongst their options - if they have the options that is? :/ Ideal world would see more heading the way of Eredivisie/Erste Divisie, Belgium, Bundi 2, Switzerland or the like, but unless they're brave, their agent has connections and are prepared to trial for a while, it's probably not a realistic option for most of our lads, if they've never been based there before - The record of Aussie Abroad player movements seem to reflect that? So few of our UK boys, especially the younger ones, move from UK to Europe, but so many of the older boys move from Europe to UK, especially as 'their dream' is to play EPL like everybody else it seems! I.E Brett Holman. :/ Edited by GloryPerth: 24/5/2014 11:51:11 PM
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GloryPerth wrote:paladisious wrote:Skapetis has already been playing for Stoke's U21s for a while now, he still doesn't have a deal with them? Yeah, as Moofa too suggested - confusing as! Perhaps the local paper is wrong or... no idea really! Maybe he's on a certain deal, shorter term and this latest negotiation is an extension? Though the quote didn't suggest that. Very confusing. Articles last month " confirmed" that he'd signed in a £300k deal, not to mention Skapetis' own twitter handle naming himself as a Stoke player, but now we have the local paper with: Stoke Sentinel wrote:Hughes declined to comment on claims that Skapetis has already joined Stoke from QPR in a £300,000 deal, but does anticipate the 19-year-old striker arriving to boost Stoke's development squad next season.
"We need to get more under-21 guys for next season," he explained, "because our development squad is currently looking a bit thin, so we need more numbers and more depth."
He said development coach Glynn Hodges, who worked with Skapetis at QPR, was the driving force behind the move.
He added: "Glynn has done really well behind the scenes in his first year with us here at Stoke.
"He's a really important link between me and the Academy, and a bridge to help young players try and make that transition from the development squad to the senior squad." Like I said, he's already played two games for their U21's at the end of the season (against Chelsea and Aston Villa), perhaps on a trial basis, so hopefully he will indeed get the chance to kick on there. Edited by paladisious: 25/5/2014 12:47:18 AM
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Gallifuoco confirmed as released on the Premier League retained and released list, or at least is available for a free transfer.
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Yeah, Dailymail may've just jumped the gun - makes sense as, iirc, they're one of the UK's tabloid press.
Edited by GloryPerth: 25/5/2014 02:01:17 AM
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moofa wrote:Decided to go through the EPL retained and released list for the Aussies in it.
Note: The offer contract players under Scholar all seem to be 18 so are finishing school and the club must either give them a contract or release them. The only exception is Taylor Tombides who has extended even though he is 18 but there are extreme circumstances in his case.
Contract Players Herd Christopher Lyden Jordan Jedinak Mile Burgess Cameron Jones Brad Smith Brad Good Curtis (o) Grant Alex - offer
Scholars Strain Ryan Strain Thomas - Offer Contract Jones Gethin - Offer Contract Adelson Jake - Offer Contract Mells George Kurasik Dominic Beadling Thomas - Offer Contract Tombides Taylor - Extended
Free Transfers Schwarzer Mark Fletcher Matthew Gallifuoco Giancarlo
Missing - note that all three are Stoke players Skapetis Peter - was transferred in January so kinda makes sense he is not on there as he is a new signing. Makrillos Peter - Twitter profile still says he is at stoke and doesn't indicate anything has changed Papas Reece
(o) - Indicated Alex Grant was out of contract an received an offer. At 20 this is a good sign that they see him developing, as far as I can tell he hasn't re-signed yet.
Will be interesting if A-league clubs go for the free transfer players. They can obviously still get a contract offer from the club but it is an indication they will be released. I think Schwarzer will have had any talks delayed until after the champions league with Courtois still at Atletico Madrid. Gallifuoco will be interesting, consistanly in the spurs U21 side for awhile. An A-league club should give him a chance imo or he will probably go to a lower league in England. Matthew Fletcher I know nothing about other than he made the bench for one FA cup game.
Edited by moofa: 24/5/2014 07:23:54 PM It'll be interesting to see which way Chelsea go. I think Courtois might well leave Atletico. I could see him going to Chelsea and Cech being bought by either Madrid or Man Utd, with de Gea going to Madrid. Either that or Courtois being sold to Madrid. That would leave a vacancy at Atletico. Maybe they'd take one of the Madrid keepers. It's the sort of club that would be more likely than Madrid to consider Ryan, even though I think it's most unlikely. My guess is that he will be at Brugges next season.
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moofa wrote:I think Spurs last game of the season would have cemented Gallifuoco not getting a new contract. In the game Bentelab, Veljkovic and Pritchard all featured. All three are younger and Bentelab and Veljkovic are in similar positions. Being being other youth players in a big side means you are unlikely to feature. Highly rated though and regularly trained with the first team. I wouldn't be surprised if a Championship side went in for him. Hopefully he will be playing first team football next season and it will be interesting to see if he will be playing CB or CDM. I recall reading a report on him a fair while ago. From memory, the assessment was that he was a bit too small to play c.b. in England. I can't remember what was said about him as a d.m. but essentially he was categorised as an "in-betweener", with certain deficiencies meaning it was unlikely he would be able to make to transition to EPL in either position. He's 6' tall so I guess it comes down to his leap and strength and other factors like timing etc for c.b. If it's just down to size then maybe Japan would be an option for him.
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Ryan Go has been released by Feyernoord. Don't know too much about him, been there for a couple of years but did not receive a professional contract. Pretty common with 23 youth players being released. Quite a few of the players already have new clubs but Ryan doesn't at the moment. http://www.feyenoordpings.nl/nieuws/12608/feyenoord-neemt-afscheid-van-drie-ntwintig-jeugdspelers.htmlAlso found some match footage, with the timing and info at the start I am htinking this could be an agent or someone going to use it to get him a trial/contract somewhere else. The video is just him getting touches in a youth game but it does say at the start he is a left wing-back [youtube]?v=eBG531LOR94[/youtube] Edited by moofa: 29/5/2014 10:30:30 AM
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Dylan McGowan released from Hearts. Quote:Head coach Robbie Neilson and director of football Craig Levein want up to seven new signings to reinforce the squad. Players are being sought in all positions after Jamie MacDonald, Jamie Hamill, Dylan McGowan, Mark Ridgers and Callum Tapping were released, with Ryan Stevenson also keen to leave. McKay, pictured, advised anyone approached by Hearts to be ready to do battle in a fiercely competitive league where no quarter will be asked or given. Strange situation there with Jamie MacDonald their players' and supporters' player of the year so these releases are obviously not just on players not being good enough. It will be interesting to see if he finds another SPL club to go to. http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/brad-mckay-hearts-can-t-afford-any-passengers-1-3419296
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Interesting that fletcher was released, I remember he made the bench in a cup game this season.
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moofa wrote:Dylan McGowan released from Hearts. Quote:Head coach Robbie Neilson and director of football Craig Levein want up to seven new signings to reinforce the squad. Players are being sought in all positions after Jamie MacDonald, Jamie Hamill, Dylan McGowan, Mark Ridgers and Callum Tapping were released, with Ryan Stevenson also keen to leave. McKay, pictured, advised anyone approached by Hearts to be ready to do battle in a fiercely competitive league where no quarter will be asked or given. Strange situation there with Jamie MacDonald their players' and supporters' player of the year so these releases are obviously not just on players not being good enough. It will be interesting to see if he finds another SPL club to go to. http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/brad-mckay-hearts-can-t-afford-any-passengers-1-3419296 Extenuating circumstances there as Hearts are broke. I'm sure Dylan can find another Scottish or English club with the amount of game time he saw.
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From BvB Fan forum Quote:Which BVB players of the second team creates next year the breakthrough into the first team, which has not yet made a game for the first
132 Amini 110 Harder 109 Edison Yordanov 62 Ducksch 53 no 41 Bandowski 35 Tim Värynen 23 Maruoka 21 Alomerovic 19 Bajner 15 tim Treude 14 Marc Horn shoe; Güll 10 Bonman 8 Kefkir; David SOLGA; Julian Derstroff 7 Flores; Horn shoe; Nothnagel 6 Sarr; Meissner; no idea 4 Jeremy Dudziak 3 Nick Weber; Julian Schieber; Timme Thiele 2 Durm; Jürgen Klopp; Dominik Nothnagel 1 Kalle Grabowski; Placeholder; Tinga with its Dingda; hohmann; Bucket; Name is on my tongue; Uvda; günter; Bandowski, Harder; Oguzhan; Giro property; Tim Hohmann; Since when do we have a second team; Zimmermann; Evans Nyarko; 2; name; .; 2nd team; Ozbek; Bakalorz; Bonkamp; All; BVB; One of the not yet know it now; Florian Hübner; I; Mutz Mundel; Gerald Asimoah http://www.bvb-forum.de/index.php?id=924063Edited by moofa: 3/6/2014 12:55:14 PM
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moofa wrote:From BvB Fan forum Quote:Which BVB players of the second team creates next year the breakthrough into the first team, which has not yet made a game for the first
132 Amini 110 Harder 109 Edison Yordanov 62 Ducksch 53 no 41 Bandowski 35 Tim Värynen 23 Maruoka 21 Alomerovic 19 Bajner 15 tim Treude 14 Marc Horn shoe; Güll 10 Bonman 8 Kefkir; David SOLGA; Julian Derstroff 7 Flores; Horn shoe; Nothnagel 6 Sarr; Meissner; no idea 4 Jeremy Dudziak 3 Nick Weber; Julian Schieber; Timme Thiele 2 Durm; Jürgen Klopp; Dominik Nothnagel 1 Kalle Grabowski; Placeholder; Tinga with its Dingda; hohmann; Bucket; Name is on my tongue; Uvda; günter; Bandowski, Harder; Oguzhan; Giro property; Tim Hohmann; Since when do we have a second team; Zimmermann; Evans Nyarko; 2; name; .; 2nd team; Ozbek; Bakalorz; Bonkamp; All; BVB; One of the not yet know it now; Florian Hübner; I; Mutz Mundel; Gerald Asimoah http://www.bvb-forum.de/index.php?id=924063Edited by moofa: 3/6/2014 12:55:14 PM A lot of them want to see Amini which is good, i just hope the coaching staff i.e Klopp will give him a contract after that then a chance.
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Primavera quarter final, Lazio v Roma. Ikonomidis on the bench.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Barca4Life wrote:moofa wrote:From BvB Fan forum Quote:Which BVB players of the second team creates next year the breakthrough into the first team, which has not yet made a game for the first
132 Amini 110 Harder 109 Edison Yordanov 62 Ducksch 53 no 41 Bandowski 35 Tim Värynen 23 Maruoka 21 Alomerovic 19 Bajner 15 tim Treude 14 Marc Horn shoe; Güll 10 Bonman 8 Kefkir; David SOLGA; Julian Derstroff 7 Flores; Horn shoe; Nothnagel 6 Sarr; Meissner; no idea 4 Jeremy Dudziak 3 Nick Weber; Julian Schieber; Timme Thiele 2 Durm; Jürgen Klopp; Dominik Nothnagel 1 Kalle Grabowski; Placeholder; Tinga with its Dingda; hohmann; Bucket; Name is on my tongue; Uvda; günter; Bandowski, Harder; Oguzhan; Giro property; Tim Hohmann; Since when do we have a second team; Zimmermann; Evans Nyarko; 2; name; .; 2nd team; Ozbek; Bakalorz; Bonkamp; All; BVB; One of the not yet know it now; Florian Hübner; I; Mutz Mundel; Gerald Asimoah http://www.bvb-forum.de/index.php?id=924063Edited by moofa: 3/6/2014 12:55:14 PM A lot of them want to see Amini which is good, i just hope the coaching staff i.e Klopp will give him a contract after that then a chance. I've watched a bit of bvb 2 he is like rogic in that he can do things no aussie has ever been able to do question is can he do it against quality opposition consistently and can he keep defensive structure
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playmaker11 wrote:Primavera quarter final, Lazio v Roma. Ikonomidis on the bench. Sensational. His recent form for Australia has been absolutely brilliant, so fingers crossed he gets a bit if a leg up this season.
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Stream for anyone interested. Very direct game so far. http://nowwatchtvlive.com/2011/07/rai-sport-online-watch-rai-sport-live-from-italy-rai-sport-1/
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Eastern Glory wrote:playmaker11 wrote:Primavera quarter final, Lazio v Roma. Ikonomidis on the bench. Sensational. His recent form for Australia has been absolutely brilliant, so fingers crossed he gets a bit if a leg up this season. Good that his side is in the QF, but a bit disappointing he's only on the bench for a youth game.
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Red card for Lazio. Probably won't get a run now. Bloody hell though. The individuals are clearly good players but the match is like rugby.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Shame that Ikonomidis didnt get on the pitch, i hope Lazio don't treat like any old youth player and release him at the end of his contract we see a lot of these youth players struggle to get a club after that even at the a-league, we need more Number 10s coming through so his development is very important whether it be for Lazio or for any Italian for that matter he could be a bolter for 2018 who knows...
I wonder how old are his team mates, are they all 18/19 year old etc?
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Interesting article about FSV Frankfurt earching 50,000 euros for Leckie being in the World Cup. I am guessing it is a Bundesliga incentive Quote:over 50 000 euros for Leckie of the Fifa
From ULRIKA SICK BERGER and SEBASTIAN KAYSER The Australian Mathew Leckie (23) is the first World Cup participants of FSV Frankfurt since Richard Hermann († 39), who was the German World Cup squad in 1954. FSV boss Clemens Krüger (43) fingers crossed that Australia remains as long as possible in the competition: "For every day that Mathew is longer with us, we collect more money." Such is the rule: For every day that a player at the World Cup is, the club gets $ 2800 (converted 2057 Euro). Projected is from the May 29 Does that mean that even if the Australians eliminated after the group stage, conceded the FSV 53482 euros. Should Australia to reach the final, it would even be 94622 euros. Kruger laughs: "I'm going to sit at the games with an Australian jersey front of the television." http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/mathew-leckie/ueber-50000-von-der-fifa-36248810.bild.html
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moofa wrote:Interesting article about FSV Frankfurt earching 50,000 euros for Leckie being in the World Cup. I am guessing it is a Bundesliga incentive Quote:over 50 000 euros for Leckie of the Fifa
From ULRIKA SICK BERGER and SEBASTIAN KAYSER The Australian Mathew Leckie (23) is the first World Cup participants of FSV Frankfurt since Richard Hermann († 39), who was the German World Cup squad in 1954. FSV boss Clemens Krüger (43) fingers crossed that Australia remains as long as possible in the competition: "For every day that Mathew is longer with us, we collect more money." Such is the rule: For every day that a player at the World Cup is, the club gets $ 2800 (converted 2057 Euro). Projected is from the May 29 Does that mean that even if the Australians eliminated after the group stage, conceded the FSV 53482 euros. Should Australia to reach the final, it would even be 94622 euros. Kruger laughs: "I'm going to sit at the games with an Australian jersey front of the television." http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/mathew-leckie/ueber-50000-von-der-fifa-36248810.bild.html Nah it's a FIFA payment, it was split to clubs from a total of $40 million in 2010, it's $70 million this year. Phoenix would have cleaned up. FIFA wrote:Payments for the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™ shall be calculated as foliows: The total number of players seleded for all the representative teams participating in the final competition of the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™ is 736 (i.e. 32 [representative teams] x 23 [players each]). On a cumulative basis, the players will participate in the final competition ofthe 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™ for a total of approximately 24,500 days (i.e. starting two weeks before the opening match until the day following the last match of the representative team in question). The Distribution Amount (USD 70 million gross) is divided by the total number of days (24,500), which results in a rounded amount per player per day of USD 2,800 (subjed to any taxes and dedudions). The rounded amount of USD 2,800 is multiplied by the number of days each player is at the final competition of the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™, starting two weeks before the opening match until the day following the last match of his representative team ("Total per Player"). It is not relevant whether or not the player adually plays in any given match.
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Also off topic, but interesting: Inside World Football wrote:Bayern Munich supply most players to World Cup provisional squad lists Published on Monday, 19 May 2014 00:47
May 19 - German giants Bayern Munich are the club providing most players to the provisional 2014 World Cup squad lists circulated by FIFA last week. The Bundesliga champions have 18 players on FIFA's release list, two more than Manchester United, who were comfortably the most heavily-represented Premier League club, despite their difficult 2013-14 season.
The squad lists are of more than academic interest to clubs, since they can be paid at a rate of $2,800 a day for players making the final 23-man squads.
In 2010, when the equivalent daily rate was only $1,600, Spain's Barcelona received the highest payment of $866,267, with Bayern second and Chelsea third. This time, it looks highly likely that the biggest payments will top $1 million.
Based on the FIFA release list of the mainly 30-man provisional squads for Brazil, and allotting players the club they are assigned to on this list, a total of 12 clubs provide 11 or more players. They are:
Bayern Munich (18), Manchester United (16), Barcelona (14), Juventus (13), Napoli (13), Real Madrid (13), Liverpool (12), Manchester City (12), Atlético Madrid (11), Chelsea (11), Internazionale (11) and Paris Saint-Germain (11).
The number of Manchester United personnel in the 32 final squads is highly likely to fall since, for example, it is already known that two of their England contingent - Michael Carrick and Tom Cleverley - are stand-by players. Squads must be cut to 23 by June 2.
Clubs located in the Big Five west European football economies (England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain) provided fractionally over half of the 950-plus players in provisional squads.
English clubs were most heavily represented, supplying 136 players from more than 30 clubs, the equivalent of almost six World Cup squads; German and Italian clubs also each supplied more than 100 provisional squad players.
Excluding the Big Five, countries whose clubs provided the most players were as follows: Russia (43), Mexico (36), Netherlands/Turkey (both 28), Portugal (27), USA (26) and Japan (25).
Clubs from host nation Brazil supplied just 18 players and Argentina only 10. Clubs from over 50 countries provided at least one player.
FIFA has set aside $70 million in all to make payments to the clubs of final squad players at Brazil 2014, up from $40 million in 2010.
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So who would get the A League money? FFA or the clubs. I could see FFA pinching it through some sort of franchise agreement. Also who would get Troisi's money? MV, Juventus or Atalanta?
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Meanwhile, Celtic have appointed Ronny Deila as their new manager. I wonder how this will impact Rogic next season. Don't know much about him though apparently he likes to play quite an attacking brand
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forthegame wrote:Meanwhile, Celtic have appointed Ronny Deila as their new manager. I wonder how this will impact Rogic next season. Don't know much about him though apparently he likes to play quite an attacking brand Less concerned about that and more about their medical staff.
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Ikonomidis's Lazio youth side lost 3-4 in extra time to Torino in the Spring National Championships (translation) which is a national youth comp. He scored twice and the third was scored after his shot hit the post. Second goal a little strange with the defender trying to stop the ball with his hand but the ref called it a goal then gave him a yellow. I guess it is easy looking back but they probably would have preferred the penalty and a red card. Also pretty early in the video (2 minutes in maybe) they have the lineup and Ikonomidis is down as the left centre mid in 433 highlights here [youtube]?v=X7uDMl6eAy0[/youtube] EDIT: Formations in video may be wring according to this article. Quote: FORMATIONS - Inzaghi has to deal with the disqualification of Lombardi and Minala. In the attack chooses Tounkara and Oikonomidis. On the other hand Longo array trident formed by Aramu, Gyasi and Pardini. http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio/serie_a/2014/06/07-364343/Primavera%3A+Lazio+fuori+con+il+Torino.+Ai+supplementari+%C3%A8+4-3! Edited by moofa: 8/6/2014 02:29:29 PM
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moofa wrote:Ikonomidis's Lazio youth side lost 3-4 in extra time to Torino in the Spring National Championships (translation) which is a national youth comp. He scored twice and the third was scored after his shot hit the post. Second goal a little strange with the defender trying to stop the ball with his hand but the ref called it a goal then gave him a yellow. I guess it is easy looking back but they probably would have preferred the penalty and a red card. Also pretty early in the video (2 minutes in maybe) they have the lineup and Ikonomidis is down as the left centre mid in 433 highlights here [youtube]?v=X7uDMl6eAy0[/youtube] EDIT: Formations in video may be wring according to this article. Quote: FORMATIONS - Inzaghi has to deal with the disqualification of Lombardi and Minala. In the attack chooses Tounkara and Oikonomidis. On the other hand Longo array trident formed by Aramu, Gyasi and Pardini. http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio/serie_a/2014/06/07-364343/Primavera%3A+Lazio+fuori+con+il+Torino.+Ai+supplementari+%C3%A8+4-3! Edited by moofa: 8/6/2014 02:29:29 PM Gun! Hope he breaks into the first team next season, then on to the Asian Cup :d
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Any recent news on Zullo? Dave Bulthuis has signed for Nuremburg which opens up some room.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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playmaker11 wrote:Any recent news on Zullo? Dave Bulthuis has signed for Nuremburg which opens up some room. great news zullo is easily eredivisie level its just a shame bulthuis was ahead of him
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