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Alex95 wrote:
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Cam Burgess to Ross County on loan for the rest of the season.

Edited by paladisious : 16/1/2015 12:38:27 AM


sad news for kid, a big step down


WTF? It's a very good move for him?! Playing for one of the smaller clubs means he'll probably get a lot of gametime.

You think playing reserves football is a step up from the SPL? Scottish football might not be at its highest ebb but the league is well and truly better than any reserve league in England.


Is a very good move I would have put the SPL above the championship when their was full strength Rangers and Celtic but maybe not as good anymore but certainly not far of and better than league 1 for sure.


:lol: you can play at Real Madrid or UD Almeria, both teams are in La Liga, so it the same thing

He not just now at SPL, he at Ross County the worst team in SPL...all A-league sub teams would beat Ross County , so it not a good thing


:lol: You are so far off the mark i actually feel sorry for you! Have you watched the A-League? I'm guessing not! You clearly don't watch any Scottish games either so your opinion is a foolish one!! Why don't you make your own judgment on the standard of a league instead of following the general consensus on this forum before making such stupid comments.

Edited by Alex95: 19/1/2015 09:35:34 PM


i watch A-league on bet365, and was lucky to go to MVFC vs Brisbane roar back in 2011, remember beautiful sunny day in Melbourne, walking from my Hotel room at Crown casino to Dockland , watching a exciting game with 25,000 people, and thought f-ck, this is better then most of shit league in Europe i've been to

I watch alot of football of European leagues , it easy to have games going from 9an to midnight on weekends

do you watch a lot of Ross county games, doesn't it remind you of watching old NSL game on SBS ?


I have never seen an nsl game so i cannot comment on what that league was like (Unlike how people on this forum make opinions on leagues they have never seen..)

Yea Ross County are a poor side at the moment but that is mainly due to having an awful start to the season, since then they have a new manager who is gradually improving the side's performances even if the results are not quite there at the moment.

My point is not about Ross county in itself although i do think this will be a good move for the kid (He's originally from Aberdeen i believe?) instead my point is on the generalisation on this forum about the standard of scottish football! I'm the first to admit that it's not great however it's far from the level that most on here perceive it to be!

I also find it amusing that you think a team made up of A-League subs would beat Ross County.

I watch quite a lot of A-League games and i attend the odd Roar game and i find that the league is widely overrated on this forum in comparison to league's abroad.

The last match i went to was absolutely awful, I would have been better going to watch a sunday league game at my local club.

As a whole Scotland are developing alot of promising youngsters at the moment, I have seen very few coming through for Australia (I'm talking about coming from the A-League).



I don't think Ross County problem is their Slow start to the year

good to hear your unbiased , In forum views..I look forward to watching all theses young Scottish players at next World cup


Well getting to the World cup can be hard when you have a such a competitive qualification section, Something Australia does not have. Although i do believe that we will make both the Euro's & Russia 18.

I was merely suggesting that Ross County have a new manager with new idea's who has brought in new players.. cannot be judged by their poor start.


certainly cant judged by that :lol: but can judged them by how consistently they lose to other SPL teams , who then go on to consistently lose to teams from IceLand
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adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Link2588 wrote:
kaufusi wrote:
adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
Cam Burgess to Ross County on loan for the rest of the season.

Edited by paladisious : 16/1/2015 12:38:27 AM


sad news for kid, a big step down


WTF? It's a very good move for him?! Playing for one of the smaller clubs means he'll probably get a lot of gametime.

You think playing reserves football is a step up from the SPL? Scottish football might not be at its highest ebb but the league is well and truly better than any reserve league in England.


Is a very good move I would have put the SPL above the championship when their was full strength Rangers and Celtic but maybe not as good anymore but certainly not far of and better than league 1 for sure.


:lol: you can play at Real Madrid or UD Almeria, both teams are in La Liga, so it the same thing

He not just now at SPL, he at Ross County the worst team in SPL...all A-league sub teams would beat Ross County , so it not a good thing


:lol: You are so far off the mark i actually feel sorry for you! Have you watched the A-League? I'm guessing not! You clearly don't watch any Scottish games either so your opinion is a foolish one!! Why don't you make your own judgment on the standard of a league instead of following the general consensus on this forum before making such stupid comments.

Edited by Alex95: 19/1/2015 09:35:34 PM


i watch A-league on bet365, and was lucky to go to MVFC vs Brisbane roar back in 2011, remember beautiful sunny day in Melbourne, walking from my Hotel room at Crown casino to Dockland , watching a exciting game with 25,000 people, and thought f-ck, this is better then most of shit league in Europe i've been to

I watch alot of football of European leagues , it easy to have games going from 9an to midnight on weekends

do you watch a lot of Ross county games, doesn't it remind you of watching old NSL game on SBS ?


I have never seen an nsl game so i cannot comment on what that league was like (Unlike how people on this forum make opinions on leagues they have never seen..)

Yea Ross County are a poor side at the moment but that is mainly due to having an awful start to the season, since then they have a new manager who is gradually improving the side's performances even if the results are not quite there at the moment.

My point is not about Ross county in itself although i do think this will be a good move for the kid (He's originally from Aberdeen i believe?) instead my point is on the generalisation on this forum about the standard of scottish football! I'm the first to admit that it's not great however it's far from the level that most on here perceive it to be!

I also find it amusing that you think a team made up of A-League subs would beat Ross County.

I watch quite a lot of A-League games and i attend the odd Roar game and i find that the league is widely overrated on this forum in comparison to league's abroad.

The last match i went to was absolutely awful, I would have been better going to watch a sunday league game at my local club.

As a whole Scotland are developing alot of promising youngsters at the moment, I have seen very few coming through for Australia (I'm talking about coming from the A-League).



I don't think Ross County problem is their Slow start to the year

good to hear your unbiased , In forum views..I look forward to watching all theses young Scottish players at next World cup


Owned. :lol:
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Dan_The_Red wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Link2588 wrote:
kaufusi wrote:
adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
Cam Burgess to Ross County on loan for the rest of the season.

Edited by paladisious : 16/1/2015 12:38:27 AM


sad news for kid, a big step down


WTF? It's a very good move for him?! Playing for one of the smaller clubs means he'll probably get a lot of gametime.

You think playing reserves football is a step up from the SPL? Scottish football might not be at its highest ebb but the league is well and truly better than any reserve league in England.


Is a very good move I would have put the SPL above the championship when their was full strength Rangers and Celtic but maybe not as good anymore but certainly not far of and better than league 1 for sure.


:lol: you can play at Real Madrid or UD Almeria, both teams are in La Liga, so it the same thing

He not just now at SPL, he at Ross County the worst team in SPL...all A-league sub teams would beat Ross County , so it not a good thing


:lol: You are so far off the mark i actually feel sorry for you! Have you watched the A-League? I'm guessing not! You clearly don't watch any Scottish games either so your opinion is a foolish one!! Why don't you make your own judgment on the standard of a league instead of following the general consensus on this forum before making such stupid comments.

Edited by Alex95: 19/1/2015 09:35:34 PM


i watch A-league on bet365, and was lucky to go to MVFC vs Brisbane roar back in 2011, remember beautiful sunny day in Melbourne, walking from my Hotel room at Crown casino to Dockland , watching a exciting game with 25,000 people, and thought f-ck, this is better then most of shit league in Europe i've been to

I watch alot of football of European leagues , it easy to have games going from 9an to midnight on weekends

do you watch a lot of Ross county games, doesn't it remind you of watching old NSL game on SBS ?


I have never seen an nsl game so i cannot comment on what that league was like (Unlike how people on this forum make opinions on leagues they have never seen..)

Yea Ross County are a poor side at the moment but that is mainly due to having an awful start to the season, since then they have a new manager who is gradually improving the side's performances even if the results are not quite there at the moment.

My point is not about Ross county in itself although i do think this will be a good move for the kid (He's originally from Aberdeen i believe?) instead my point is on the generalisation on this forum about the standard of scottish football! I'm the first to admit that it's not great however it's far from the level that most on here perceive it to be!

I also find it amusing that you think a team made up of A-League subs would beat Ross County.

I watch quite a lot of A-League games and i attend the odd Roar game and i find that the league is widely overrated on this forum in comparison to league's abroad.

The last match i went to was absolutely awful, I would have been better going to watch a sunday league game at my local club.

As a whole Scotland are developing alot of promising youngsters at the moment, I have seen very few coming through for Australia (I'm talking about coming from the A-League).



I don't think Ross County problem is their Slow start to the year

good to hear your unbiased , In forum views..I look forward to watching all theses young Scottish players at next World cup


Owned. :lol:


Lol not quite sure how that can be classified as getting 'owned'...
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Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


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Don't think it's a bad move at all. Ross County are shit, sure, but so what? He'll be playing AGAINST the better players. It's better than sitting on the bench at Celtic.
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Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.
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Alex95 wrote:
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Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

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adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.
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paladisious wrote:
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Seems Lazio have another Aussie in their youth team!

I can't quite hear the name clearly, but it sounds like Mile Popovic. Not listed on transfermarkt or anywhere else I could find.

Unsure if he's claiming allegiance to some Balkan country, but with that accent he's not fooling me!


Quality find, great work once again.


Apparently was just on loan at that time. Hasn't been back since.



That's a shame, where was he loaned from?

My bad. He was there on trial I meant. So was Lucas Zerelli. Not sure where either is now although I believe Zerellu is still in Rome.
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Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.


really, does that mean the rest of Scottish players ,who stay in SPL are shit?



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Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.
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Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


Finally a voice of reason (literally!) ;) Ofcourse it's a good move the only downside for the lad is living in dingwall lol
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Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach

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adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach


Can you please read the sentence again? I said relegation battle will expose him to a pressure that will toughen him up. This is because being in a relegation fight brings with it pressure and means that every game you play is crucial so it might help him with discipline and coping in tough situations. One doesn't need to be a coach to understand this.

I suspect you know this and are merely being argumentative. One of the reasons I avoid coming on here as much. The people who would like to intelligently discuss anything with an open mind is few and far between. Your reply to this will more than likely confirm this yet I hope you surprise me and prove me wrong.
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adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach


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By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach


Can you please read the sentence again? I said relegation battle will expose him to a pressure that will toughen him up. This is because being in a relegation fight brings with it pressure and means that every game you play is crucial so it might help him with discipline and coping in tough situations. One doesn't need to be a coach to understand this.

I suspect you know this and are merely being argumentative. One of the reasons I avoid coming on here as much. The people who would like to intelligently discuss anything with an open mind is few and far between. Your reply to this will more than likely confirm this yet I hope you surprise me and prove me wrong.


i re-read it, and still came to the same conclusion, you have given a positive learning experience for a young player coming to a team that in a relegation fight, i'm guessing there would equally many negative experience to a young players development, in coming to a team that in relegation fight...but as i said, i'm not a coach , i leave that up to the many people who hold coaching license
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adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach


Can you please read the sentence again? I said relegation battle will expose him to a pressure that will toughen him up. This is because being in a relegation fight brings with it pressure and means that every game you play is crucial so it might help him with discipline and coping in tough situations. One doesn't need to be a coach to understand this.

I suspect you know this and are merely being argumentative. One of the reasons I avoid coming on here as much. The people who would like to intelligently discuss anything with an open mind is few and far between. Your reply to this will more than likely confirm this yet I hope you surprise me and prove me wrong.


i re-read it, and still came to the same conclusion, you have given a positive learning experience for a young player coming to a team that in a relegation fight, i'm guessing there would equally many negative experience to a young players development, in coming to a team that in relegation fight...but as i said, i'm not a coach , i leave that up to the many people who hold coaching license


You're 100% right and his coaches and manager decided it was a good move for him so there you go discussion over =d>

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Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach


Can you please read the sentence again? I said relegation battle will expose him to a pressure that will toughen him up. This is because being in a relegation fight brings with it pressure and means that every game you play is crucial so it might help him with discipline and coping in tough situations. One doesn't need to be a coach to understand this.

I suspect you know this and are merely being argumentative. One of the reasons I avoid coming on here as much. The people who would like to intelligently discuss anything with an open mind is few and far between. Your reply to this will more than likely confirm this yet I hope you surprise me and prove me wrong.


i re-read it, and still came to the same conclusion, you have given a positive learning experience for a young player coming to a team that in a relegation fight, i'm guessing there would equally many negative experience to a young players development, in coming to a team that in relegation fight...but as i said, i'm not a coach , i leave that up to the many people who hold coaching license


You're 100% right and his coaches and manager decided it was a good move for him so there you go discussion over =d>

Edited by Voice ofReason: 20/1/2015 02:16:15 AM


that under the assumption the move was made by he team coach , with he best long term interest at hand...

but i'm not a coach, i'm not sure if going to a team that in relegation battle is good for the 18 year old development...you think it is

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Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach


Can you please read the sentence again? I said relegation battle will expose him to a pressure that will toughen him up. This is because being in a relegation fight brings with it pressure and means that every game you play is crucial so it might help him with discipline and coping in tough situations. One doesn't need to be a coach to understand this.

I suspect you know this and are merely being argumentative. One of the reasons I avoid coming on here as much. The people who would like to intelligently discuss anything with an open mind is few and far between. Your reply to this will more than likely confirm this yet I hope you surprise me and prove me wrong.


i re-read it, and still came to the same conclusion, you have given a positive learning experience for a young player coming to a team that in a relegation fight, i'm guessing there would equally many negative experience to a young players development, in coming to a team that in relegation fight...but as i said, i'm not a coach , i leave that up to the many people who hold coaching license


You're 100% right and his coaches and manager decided it was a good move for him so there you go discussion over =d>

Edited by Voice ofReason: 20/1/2015 02:16:15 AM


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maybe all young Aussie players, battling for playing time at their club, should be sent to all those teams fighting relegation to gain this positive experience..

form my experience, there was nothing better then to walk into a new environment, that was under intense pressure :lol:
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adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach


Can you please read the sentence again? I said relegation battle will expose him to a pressure that will toughen him up. This is because being in a relegation fight brings with it pressure and means that every game you play is crucial so it might help him with discipline and coping in tough situations. One doesn't need to be a coach to understand this.

I suspect you know this and are merely being argumentative. One of the reasons I avoid coming on here as much. The people who would like to intelligently discuss anything with an open mind is few and far between. Your reply to this will more than likely confirm this yet I hope you surprise me and prove me wrong.


i re-read it, and still came to the same conclusion, you have given a positive learning experience for a young player coming to a team that in a relegation fight, i'm guessing there would equally many negative experience to a young players development, in coming to a team that in relegation fight...but as i said, i'm not a coach , i leave that up to the many people who hold coaching license


You're 100% right and his coaches and manager decided it was a good move for him so there you go discussion over =d>

Edited by Voice ofReason: 20/1/2015 02:16:15 AM


that under the assumption the move was made by he team coach , with he best long term interest at hand...

but i'm not a coach, i'm not sure if going to a team that in relegation battle is good for the 18 year old development...you think it is

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 02:30:46 AM


Don't think it hurts and neither do his coaches obviously. Plus it is one aspect of the move not the deciding factor. Celtic sent Jackson Irvine there too so these people must have a good reason.

So moving on, you say you're not a coach so you can't comment on it being good or not for him? What exactly is your area of expertise that you feel you are able to comment on football related issues on here? Going by your logic perhaps you should shut down your account and just be a spectator?? Although I think you probably just use that excuse selectively whenever it suits.

Now I'm no psychologist so I really can't be sure of your motives...:lol:
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Always good to be reminded why I don't frequent here that often anymore. Arguing with "experts" far removed from the situation is not really as rewarding as talking to the actual people involved.
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Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
adrtho wrote:
Alex95 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Because the SPL and Scottish NT are shit.


Wow another clueless idiot..

What was the score when we last played Australia? Therefor what does that make your National team?

The Spl is not great but fuck it's by far better than the A-League!

Don't understand how i can be wrong in saying that Scotland have more promising players coming through the ranks right now than Aus.. FACT.


you're talking about one friendly match? played in Scotland , in fucking cold weather , your talking about that one match? sure, then Australian can say they are better then Germany , because Australia beat Germany , in Germany

Australia record against the Home countries in the UK , over the last 20 year is one lost (i can be wrong on this if anybody wants to check)

as for new promising young Scottish players coming through, i guess we will all get to see this with improve performance of SPL team in Europe..

But Scottish teams can't keep playing bad in Europe for another 10 years, at the same time you (and other) keep saying how good SPL is...10 years of bad performance in Europe is long enough

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 01:16:56 AM


I'm merely commenting on the last time we played each other which resulted in a comfortable win for Scotland.

What difference does the fucking weather make? Most of the Aussie squad was european based iirc.

That is hardly a way to judge if Scotland's talent is good or not seeing as most of our better younger players get snapped up by the english clubs.

Rangers reached the Final of the Uefa league in 2008 and the last 16 of the Champions league in 06 and Celtic have had a decent campaign in 2013. I would not say that equates to being labelled as bad performances, Sure they aren't great but rather decent for a smaller nation.


Can I just add my two cents worth? I think it's a good move. The SPL is a decent standard and being in a relegation fight will expose him to the type of pressure that'll toughen him up. The opportunity to get first team senior football in the top flight is always beneficial. He'll have to come up against some very good teams too. Let's just hope he impresses and can improve there.


i didn't know being in a relegation fight is good for Aussie youth development, but i'm not a coach


Can you please read the sentence again? I said relegation battle will expose him to a pressure that will toughen him up. This is because being in a relegation fight brings with it pressure and means that every game you play is crucial so it might help him with discipline and coping in tough situations. One doesn't need to be a coach to understand this.

I suspect you know this and are merely being argumentative. One of the reasons I avoid coming on here as much. The people who would like to intelligently discuss anything with an open mind is few and far between. Your reply to this will more than likely confirm this yet I hope you surprise me and prove me wrong.


i re-read it, and still came to the same conclusion, you have given a positive learning experience for a young player coming to a team that in a relegation fight, i'm guessing there would equally many negative experience to a young players development, in coming to a team that in relegation fight...but as i said, i'm not a coach , i leave that up to the many people who hold coaching license


You're 100% right and his coaches and manager decided it was a good move for him so there you go discussion over =d>

Edited by Voice ofReason: 20/1/2015 02:16:15 AM


that under the assumption the move was made by he team coach , with he best long term interest at hand...

but i'm not a coach, i'm not sure if going to a team that in relegation battle is good for the 18 year old development...you think it is

Edited by adrtho: 20/1/2015 02:30:46 AM


Don't think it hurts and neither do his coaches obviously. Plus it is one aspect of the move not the deciding factor. Celtic sent Jackson Irvine there too so these people must have a good reason.

So moving on, you say you're not a coach so you can't comment on it being good or not for him? What exactly is your area of expertise that you feel you are able to comment on football related issues on here? Going by your logic perhaps you should shut down your account and just be a spectator?? Although I think you probably just use that excuse selectively whenever it suits.

Now I'm no psychologist so I really can't be sure of your motives...:lol:



logic says, you only have to run faster then the guy next to you, not be 100m world champ
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Voice ofReason wrote:
Always good to be reminded why I don't frequent here that often anymore. Arguing with "experts" far removed from the situation is not really as rewarding as talking to the actual people involved.


funny, i thought i was leaving it to the coaching expert on here, about your opinion
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Voice ofReason wrote:
Always good to be reminded why I don't frequent here that often anymore. Arguing with "experts" far removed from the situation is not really as rewarding as talking to the actual people involved.


Adrtho does not represent anyone else that frequents this thread. The rest of us are very helpful and informative.
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Pulis said he needs new players because the squad is imbalanced. Not sure if that means his starting 11 or squad. Davidson needs to be careful.
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Bowden wrote:
Voice ofReason wrote:
Always good to be reminded why I don't frequent here that often anymore. Arguing with "experts" far removed from the situation is not really as rewarding as talking to the actual people involved.


Adrtho does not represent anyone else that frequents this thread. The rest of us are very helpful and informative.


Bowden, i was helpfull. i recommended to leave he opinion to other frequents poster, who have a coaching knowledge
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johnszasz wrote:
Pulis said he needs new players because the squad is imbalanced. Not sure if that means his starting 11 or squad. Davidson needs to be careful.


Davidson is gone
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lukerobinho wrote:
johnszasz wrote:
Pulis said he needs new players because the squad is imbalanced. Not sure if that means his starting 11 or squad. Davidson needs to be careful.


Davidson is gone


Is a loan better or getting a permanent gig elsewhere as a starter?

I think he'll move to another club, a step down, and need a lot of time to break into the starting team there. It was so promising 12 months ago.

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