I wasnt trying to argue with you or even commenting on my preferences. I was commenting on a reported statistical analysis of all players in European top leagues. As for the passing - depends on your system and expectations really. In A-League terms you're comparing Brattan and Portaloo.

All good. This is 442. So there's always going to be a heck of a lot argument.

But it doesn't really depend on your system and expectations. We're talking about well-rounded defensive midfielders. Jedinak is fairly weak in offensive aspects of defensive midfield (which remain crucial to the role), thus cannot possibly be regarded as one of the best defensive midfielders. And we do need to look at well-rounded defensive midfielders. Why do you suppose Champions League clubs prefer well-rounded players in that position rather than more one-dimensional ones like Jedinak?

This is why statistical analyses can be misleading. I always say, stats needs to be looked at through the prism of context. If stats were all-powerful, Jedinak would be playing for a club like Real Madrid. There's so much more to football than that.

Especially with 4-3-3 (or 4-2-3-1) type football being all the rage, it's necessary for the defensive midfielder to be able to act as link between defense and midfield. Possession is critical in this style of football. So the CDM needs very accurate passing, great vision, ball-carrying ability and off the ball movement. Jedinak is not all that good at the first three of these things, certainly. Key components of defensive midfield

If the claim is that Jedinak is in the top ten midfielders in world (even defensive midfielders in the world), then he'd need to be far more well-rounded like those other players. He's excellent at defence, but not good enough overall to merit the claim.

2 nil to 1860 with Degenek with a full game.

Demolition in netherlands 0-4 roda v zwolle winning

DDS got brought on early second half, griffiths taken off early after half.. no juric

no saintsbury

did oar get on?

0-5 it ended. But im sure the a league is a better league than the eredivisie.

Will be keeping a eye on Kenny D for sure I hope Ange is as well. He has played LB every game this season (he has played 90% of them only missed out through injury) can play CB and DM as well is 6 foot and pretty well built by the looks of it. Will be 25 for the start of Russia BOOM all hail king Kenny

What a silly assumption...

oar didnt get off the bench. game ended 2-2. mcarthy made 1 sub for the whole game.

from the sounds of it he was more concerned about the defensive failures and stuck with a pack that he thought would hold up the wolves. as a left wing, oar probably doesnt fit into that.

As someone who watches the eredivisie and erste divisie (highlights) A League is a bit behind.

McGowan with a good assist

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Any1 watching Halloran ..

What's the Kruse situation? Still injured?

It would be nice for one of the Aussies to get on the pitch for Stuttgart.

By gawd what have I done.

ALeague is = or > Bundesliga

Leckie was not in squad for Ingolstadts win.

He's sick, isn't he?

This I did not know.

It's why he couldn't get on the plane to travel with the Socceroos. Probably hasn't been able to train. Should be back next week.

Probably lost his license on the way to the airport, missed his plain being held up by police searching his car for ice

Good news.

Jedinak on the bench. Laughable how the website gets his view before each game as captain. Cabaye has been great and it's a big shame for Jedinak. Thankfully Stoke will bid for him in January. Could be a chance.

Would be interesting to see how well Palace fairs towards the end of the season.

Either way he should just leave, some team could use him, he's seems too loyal to palace

Amini got the start in a 3:2 loss. Good minutes.

He was suspended

Will he return this week?

arsenal might be interested. this sounds dumb but there are whispers. from what i hear they are in serious needs of a decent defensive mid with injuries. im sure some arsenal fan will have better info.

jedinak and ibrahimovic in january..

this is much more realistic.. news article from Nov 18.

"CRYSTAL Palace midfielder Mile Jedinak could be the subject of a fresh bid from Stoke City in January, it is being reported.

The Australian was reportedly close to joining the Potters in the summer, but instead stayed at Selhurst Park where he has featured on several occasions in league and cup so far this season.

But after Stoke City chairman Peter Coates told the Stoke Sentinel that they are in the hunt for a defensive midfielder, rumours have resurfaced about a new bid to land Jedinak."



Read more: http://www.surreymirror.co.uk/Transfer-talk-Stoke-City-come-Crystal-Palace-star/story-28199579-detail/story.html#ixzz3sPZ4vFKQ


Edited by inala brah: 24/11/2015 11:28:06 PM

Stoke would be an amazing move right now. Great squad they've building.

This. :^o