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			    Holman's still at it in the UAE, currently playing against Al Ain. You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe.                
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			    tsf wrote:Behich is not the calibre of person that should wear the socceroos shirt.  Could be something tangible in what you're saying there. I felt he didn't hit his potential, a little timid when mixing it up with other NT players.  Perhaps he doesn't back himself well enough or the other boys don't back him enough for the NT Bursaspor he gets into these little grooves. I would say, he's as quick as Brad Smith on the ball and in recovery. I def want Ange to back him a bit more in the NT setup                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    playmaker11 wrote:Holman's still at it in the UAE, currently playing against Al Ain. You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. I reckon/suspect he can't leave because of religious reasons. That's my bet                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    highkick05 wrote:playmaker11 wrote:Holman's still at it in the UAE, currently playing against Al Ain. You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. I reckon/suspect he can't leave because of religious reasons. That's my bet ? Probably more to do with being the biggest fish in a small pond. Also he probably doesn't pay tax in UAE and wouldn't necessarily match the wage he gets now.  Home Superstar vs some Arab guy playing on some team                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Troisi came on in the 89th minute in 2-0 win. He has been on the bench lately amid speculation of a January moveHolman played 90 mins in another loss, their 5th in a row.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Tokyo FC v Sanfrecce Hiroshima this arvo. Emperor's Cup quarter.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    playmaker11 wrote:You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. Like many Arab's, they are treated like rockstars in their native culture. Arabs, along with the Chinese, just don't have this mentality of testing themselves against the best the world has to offer, thus their national teams suffer as a result. Compare that with East Asian nations like Australia, Japan and Worst Korea, who routinely send their best and brightest to Europe, and it's no wonder that the nations competing for honours at every World Cup and Asian Cup come from the East. Iran is probably an exception in the Arab world - they tend to have a few players kicking about in Europe, but their international status probably hinders their development and the exporting of more players.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Arabs don't have the mentality. Look at their teams, when do you see comebacks by them? Whenever they go a few goals down they throw in the towel and start arguing. They always seem to give up. And If they're winning they're faking injury to waste time. Mental midgets so no wonder they cannot cut it on the big stage.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    hellas_johnny wrote:a spud who has done nothing wrong in his 2 first socceroos appaearances compared to behich who got skinned a live by the likes of hong kong in his first socceroos appearances. he fucking playing Kyrgyzstan,  who are lowing then Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Tahiti Australia can not qualify by select 27 years old who career high is League one....it ok to select  20 years old , as they all should have a natural age progression higher                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    playmaker11 wrote:Holman's still at it in the UAE, currently playing against Al Ain. You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. it's a shame hehasn't, think he could become a star, with that hair :d .....they said Man City offerd him four-year deal , but because of trouble with visa it didn't happen                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    adrtho wrote:hellas_johnny wrote:a spud who has done nothing wrong in his 2 first socceroos appaearances compared to behich who got skinned a live by the likes of hong kong in his first socceroos appearances. he fucking playing Kyrgyzstan,  who are lowing then Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Tahiti Australia can not qualify by select 27 years old who career high is League one....it ok to select  20 years old , as they all should have a natural age progression higher Exactly. The selection of Meredith was a mistake. He is at the peak of his career and he's only at League one level. Elder on the other hand at age 20 is playing better in that league. Not saying he should've been selected but if you are going to select someone from that level.......... The same could be said about Elrich. Who is at his peak and hardly special.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    u4486662 wrote:Troisi came on in the 89th minute in 2-0 win. He has been on the bench lately amid speculation of a January moveHolman played 90 mins in another loss, their 5th in a row.
 congradualations, should be fit and playing regularly in 2018 just before the WC cos doubt he'll be featuring in any WCQ coming up lol This guy won us the Asian Cup so he should just get paid  Is he off the books of Juventus? That could be a good start for him , then find a real club cos the guys career is not benefiting by being a vagabond nomad transfer whoreEdited by highkick05: 26/12/2015 01:06:32 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    walnuts wrote:playmaker11 wrote:You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. Like many Arab's, they are treated like rockstars in their native culture. Arabs, along with the Chinese, just don't have this mentality of testing themselves against the best the world has to offer, thus their national teams suffer as a result. Compare that with East Asian nations like Australia, Japan and Worst Korea, who routinely send their best and brightest to Europe, and it's no wonder that the nations competing for honours at every World Cup and Asian Cup come from the East. Iran is probably an exception in the Arab world - they tend to have a few players kicking about in Europe, but their international status probably hinders their development and the exporting of more players. Iranians aren't Arabs, and even in football terms they've left the West Asian Football Federation and joined the Central Asian Football Federation with the 'Stans. I'd definitely exclude them from that lamentable footballing culture, as you've identified.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    AEK Spartan wrote:Tokyo FC v Sanfrecce Hiroshima this arvo. Emperor's Cup quarter. At the half, Tokyo lead 1-0, Neymar Burns back in team on bench. Hiroshima have both stars Hisato Sato & Takuma Asano on bench.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    paladisious wrote:walnuts wrote:Iranians aren't Arabs,playmaker11 wrote:You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. Like many Arab's, they are treated like rockstars in their native culture. Arabs, along with the Chinese, just don't have this mentality of testing themselves against the best the world has to offer, thus their national teams suffer as a result. Compare that with East Asian nations like Australia, Japan and Worst Korea, who routinely send their best and brightest to Europe, and it's no wonder that the nations competing for honours at every World Cup and Asian Cup come from the East. Iran is probably an exception in the Arab world - they tend to have a few players kicking about in Europe, but their international status probably hinders their development and the exporting of more players. and even in football terms they've left the West Asian Football Federation and joined the Central Asian Football Federation with the 'Stans. I'd definitely exclude them from that lamentable footballing culture, as you've identified. schooled..                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    highkick05 wrote:u4486662 wrote:Troisi came on in the 89th minute in 2-0 win. He has been on the bench lately amid speculation of a January moveHolman played 90 mins in another loss, their 5th in a row.
 congradualations, should be fit and playing regularly in 2018 just before the WC cos doubt he'll be featuring in any WCQ coming up lol This guy won us the Asian Cup so he should just get paid  Is he off the books of Juventus? That could be a good start for him , then find a real club cos the guys career is not benefiting by being a vagabond nomad transfer whoreEdited by highkick05: 26/12/2015 01:06:32 PM Wiki say he was on a 4 year  contract starting 22 August 2012, Juventus paid  €1 million for 50% of Troisi  contact to Atalana in 20 June 2014                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    AEK Spartan wrote:AEK Spartan wrote:Tokyo FC v Sanfrecce Hiroshima this arvo. Emperor's Cup quarter. At the half, Tokyo lead 1-0, Neymar Burns back in team on bench. Hiroshima have both stars Hisato Sato & Takuma Asano on bench. Asano came on early in the second and scored 2. Burns on at 113'. Sanfrecce win 2-1. Thankfully the Tokyo manager is f*#k%'g off back to Italy.                  
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    AEK Spartan wrote:AEK Spartan wrote:AEK Spartan wrote:Tokyo FC v Sanfrecce Hiroshima this arvo. Emperor's Cup quarter. At the half, Tokyo lead 1-0, Neymar Burns back in team on bench. Hiroshima have both stars Hisato Sato & Takuma Asano on bench. Asano came on early in the second and scored 2. Burns on at 113'. Sanfrecce win 2-1. Thankfully the Tokyo manager is f*#k%'g off back to Italy.   FC Tokyo will still be in the ACL if any of the three remaining teams other than Kashiwa win the cup, but not in a group with any Aussie teams unfortunately.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    paladisious wrote:walnuts wrote:playmaker11 wrote:You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. Like many Arab's, they are treated like rockstars in their native culture. Arabs, along with the Chinese, just don't have this mentality of testing themselves against the best the world has to offer, thus their national teams suffer as a result. Compare that with East Asian nations like Australia, Japan and Worst Korea, who routinely send their best and brightest to Europe, and it's no wonder that the nations competing for honours at every World Cup and Asian Cup come from the East. Iran is probably an exception in the Arab world - they tend to have a few players kicking about in Europe, but their international status probably hinders their development and the exporting of more players. Iranians aren't Arabs, and even in football terms they've left the West Asian Football Federation and joined the Central Asian Football Federation with the 'Stans. I'd definitely exclude them from that lamentable footballing culture, as you've identified. The main thing I think is money the chinese and arabs are just so heavily overpaid. Most would be lucky to get a full time pro contract in the UK. So for them a move abroad is a massive pay cut and they aren't likely to really make it anyway. Nicky carle I think said when he was in arab land their were no more than 5 players better than him in the entire league excluding foreign players. This was when he was in his 30's. The WC is a good guide no arab team ever make the round of 16 they get pumped if they even qualify.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Link2588 wrote:paladisious wrote:walnuts wrote:playmaker11 wrote:You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. Like many Arab's, they are treated like rockstars in their native culture. Arabs, along with the Chinese, just don't have this mentality of testing themselves against the best the world has to offer, thus their national teams suffer as a result. Compare that with East Asian nations like Australia, Japan and Worst Korea, who routinely send their best and brightest to Europe, and it's no wonder that the nations competing for honours at every World Cup and Asian Cup come from the East. Iran is probably an exception in the Arab world - they tend to have a few players kicking about in Europe, but their international status probably hinders their development and the exporting of more players. Iranians aren't Arabs, and even in football terms they've left the West Asian Football Federation and joined the Central Asian Football Federation with the 'Stans. I'd definitely exclude them from that lamentable footballing culture, as you've identified. The main thing I think is money the chinese and arabs are just so heavily overpaid. Most would be lucky to get a full time pro contract in the UK. So for them a move abroad is a massive pay cut and they aren't likely to really make it anyway. Nicky carle I think said when he was in arab land their were no more than 5 players better than him in the entire league excluding foreign players. This was when he was in his 30's. The WC is a good guide no arab team ever make the round of 16 they get pumped if they even qualify.  You must not have clocked the Acl results                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Wright  vs Davidson and Mass vs Oar. Will any get game time. Cabaye very doubtful. Will Jedinak play? Elder might return. Scottish games on too but no Celtic.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    lukerobinho wrote:Link2588 wrote:paladisious wrote:walnuts wrote:playmaker11 wrote:You'd think Abdulrahman would test himself in Europe. Like many Arab's, they are treated like rockstars in their native culture. Arabs, along with the Chinese, just don't have this mentality of testing themselves against the best the world has to offer, thus their national teams suffer as a result. Compare that with East Asian nations like Australia, Japan and Worst Korea, who routinely send their best and brightest to Europe, and it's no wonder that the nations competing for honours at every World Cup and Asian Cup come from the East. Iran is probably an exception in the Arab world - they tend to have a few players kicking about in Europe, but their international status probably hinders their development and the exporting of more players. Iranians aren't Arabs, and even in football terms they've left the West Asian Football Federation and joined the Central Asian Football Federation with the 'Stans. I'd definitely exclude them from that lamentable footballing culture, as you've identified. The main thing I think is money the chinese and arabs are just so heavily overpaid. Most would be lucky to get a full time pro contract in the UK. So for them a move abroad is a massive pay cut and they aren't likely to really make it anyway. Nicky carle I think said when he was in arab land their were no more than 5 players better than him in the entire league excluding foreign players. This was when he was in his 30's. The WC is a good guide no arab team ever make the round of 16 they get pumped if they even qualify.  You must not have clocked the Acl results  Only four Arab clubs have won the AFC Champions League or it's predecessor the Asian Club Championship ever. You were saying?Edited by paladisious: 26/12/2015 10:52:42 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    adrtho wrote:highkick05 wrote:u4486662 wrote:Troisi came on in the 89th minute in 2-0 win. He has been on the bench lately amid speculation of a January moveHolman played 90 mins in another loss, their 5th in a row.
 congradualations, should be fit and playing regularly in 2018 just before the WC cos doubt he'll be featuring in any WCQ coming up lol This guy won us the Asian Cup so he should just get paid  Is he off the books of Juventus? That could be a good start for him , then find a real club cos the guys career is not benefiting by being a vagabond nomad transfer whoreEdited by highkick05: 26/12/2015 01:06:32 PM Wiki say he was on a 4 year  contract starting 22 August 2012, Juventus paid  €1 million for 50% of Troisi  contact to Atalana in 20 June 2014 So 22 AUGUST  2016. That is pretty far away, we could just be forgetting all about poor James Troisi, until the year 2017. Now you read that, 2017? yep That's realistic. I know Juventus probably want top dollar for someone on their books. After his contract is up for him I'd be looking to Belguim again. It's a tough gig for our boys, they'd need to get a spot on some decently positioned mid-table club and then just win the clubs fans over, not being too big headed in the progress, but being in the right places at the right time to help their clubs (win games). That is the only way I can see these boys maintaining good FORM and regular game time. I mean we're not looking at player talent pool like Brazil or some such shit.  The guys need to keep playing and fighting for minutes, and hopefully just finding stable clubs. Fuck, how many of our players are changing teams at the rate of a season                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Luongo and Oar both on bench                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Jedinak bench as with Cabaye. Mutch into the starting side. Wright, Luongo, Davidson and Oar on the bench. News is they all received trainer of the week awards with a lolly bag and Nando's voucher.
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			    I reckon all our English based players could walk into this Manchester United team though. Rubbish from the players and coach.
 Very frustrating. Arguably a decent core of our squad inactive. Mixed performances for the Roos too this year. The moves all made great sense initially. At least these clubs have so many fixtures so rotation is inevitable.
 
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			    highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:highkick05 wrote:u4486662 wrote:Troisi came on in the 89th minute in 2-0 win. He has been on the bench lately amid speculation of a January moveHolman played 90 mins in another loss, their 5th in a row.
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			    Dillhole wrote:Milligan scored for baniyas Low pile drive from outside the box ?                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Jackson Irvine just scored for Ross County against Dundee, leading 3-2 .. he got the last goal to take the lead60' Goal! Ross County 3, Dundee 2. Jackson Irvine (Ross County) right footed shot from the centre of the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Jonathan Franks with a cross following a corner. 58' Substitution, Ross County. Jackson Irvine replaces Stewart Murdoch.
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