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			    Qpr tonight. Luongo on the bench probably.                
			                   
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Never too late for Celtic to rebuy him                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    TheSelectFew wrote:Qpr tonight. Luongo on the bench probably.  :(                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Luongo is similar quality to rogicIt's amazing he can't get minutes
 
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    What is interesting is we don't usually happen to have these problems of good players not playing outside of the U.K. And Italy unless there is an English coach of course                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    grazorblade wrote:What is interesting is we don't usually happen to have these problems of good players not playing outside of the U.K. And Italy unless there is an English coach of course Poms don't like Australians being good at anything.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech  should be selected a head of Ryan
 Domenech  never played 1 minute of  La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league  with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga  team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
 With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better.  If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty.  I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the  greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team?    he never manage a team before.. he may never have managed a football team before and neither have you even left that couch of yours so of the two opinions Im going to have to say Gary Neville just shades you. No hard feelings yeah ?                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    grazorblade wrote:Luongo is similar quality to rogicIt's amazing he can't get minutes
 
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					| Eastern Glory 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    lukerobinho wrote:grazorblade wrote:Luongo is similar quality to rogicIt's amazing he can't get minutes
 
 I think Luongo is a better player and proven as much at a higher level  Seriously? They're very different players. Luongo isn't anywhere near as creative as people say he is. Rogic is a far more unique player.  Rogic offers so much more for Australia IMO. Edited by eastern glory: 1/1/2016 08:25:21 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Eastern Glory wrote:lukerobinho wrote:grazorblade wrote:Luongo is similar quality to rogicIt's amazing he can't get minutes
 
 I think Luongo is a better player and proven as much at a higher level  Seriously? They're very different players. Luongo isn't anywhere near as creative as people say he is. Rogic is a far more unique player.  Rogic offers so much more for Australia IMO. Edited by eastern glory: 1/1/2016 08:25:21 PM That comment is bs. Short memories.                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Bundoora B 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Eastern Glory wrote:lukerobinho wrote:grazorblade wrote:Luongo is similar quality to rogicIt's amazing he can't get minutes
 
 I think Luongo is a better player and proven as much at a higher level  Seriously? They're very different players. Luongo isn't anywhere near as creative as people say he is. Rogic is a far more unique player.  Rogic offers so much more for Australia IMO. Edited by eastern glory: 1/1/2016 08:25:21 PM veryy different.  luongo is box to box.  works hard off the ball.  has a decent defensive game and the best ive seen him play is as a DM. rogic needs to stay in the front half.  his role as an AM is so far forward he could essentially be a secondary striker that drops deep to create. in form i think luongo has more to offer - but rogic is a touch above in his ball holding and distribution.                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    TheSelectFew wrote:How long is Elder out for? 2-3 months. He's returned to Leicester for rehab.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    moofa wrote:Scottish paper doing a top 50 players of 2015. Irvine got 17th which is pretty decent for a player 22 year old who at the start of the year was in a team that looked guaranteed for relegation. His part just says Celtic should have kept him. Quote:17. Jackson Irvine (Ross County) It is my prediction that Celtic are going to one day regret not giving Jackson Irvine more of a chance at Parkhead. They did offer the Australian a new contract in the summer, but the player revealed this was nothing more than a move to ensure a compensation fee, and that he’d been told he had little future at the club. Personally, Irvine seems well suited to playing one of the deeper roles in Ronny Deila’s 4-2-3-1, and given the Celtic manager’s obviously respect for the Ladbrokes Premiership given his signing policy, you’d have thought Deila might have been swayed by the player’s rapid improvement in the first half of 2015 as Ross County rocketed themselves up the league table. Since signing for County permanently in the summer, you’ll be pleased to hear, Irvine has continued to develop and played a starring role in his team’s victory over rivals Inverness CT, which put them in their first ever League Cup semi-final, where they’ll meet Celtic, ironically enough. Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/top-50-scottish-football-players-in-2015-20-11-1-3989077 #ixzz3vyeYVFiJ  decent form this year.  no rogic in 50-11.  do you reckon he will make the ten?                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    johnszasz wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:How long is Elder out for? 2-3 months. He's returned to Leicester for rehab. Fmd.                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    TheSelectFew wrote:johnszasz wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:How long is Elder out for? 2-3 months. He's returned to Leicester for rehab. Fmd.  No surprise, just part of the trend.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Luongo played in a friendly on Wednesday so i doubt he will get a start tonight                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Dan_The_Red wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:johnszasz wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:How long is Elder out for? 2-3 months. He's returned to Leicester for rehab. Fmd.  No surprise, just part of the trend. Did the football illuminati do it to him because he can find Australia on a map?                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    TheSelectFew wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:lukerobinho wrote:grazorblade wrote:Luongo is similar quality to rogicIt's amazing he can't get minutes
 
 I think Luongo is a better player and proven as much at a higher level  Seriously? They're very different players. Luongo isn't anywhere near as creative as people say he is. Rogic is a far more unique player.  Rogic offers so much more for Australia IMO. Edited by eastern glory: 1/1/2016 08:25:21 PM That comment is bs. Short memories.  How so?  Luongo is not a 10, he's an 8. We have plenty of 8s, but we lack effective 10s.  So I'm 100% right. Edited by eastern glory: 1/1/2016 08:56:05 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    inala brah wrote:moofa wrote:Scottish paper doing a top 50 players of 2015. Irvine got 17th which is pretty decent for a player 22 year old who at the start of the year was in a team that looked guaranteed for relegation. His part just says Celtic should have kept him. Quote:17. Jackson Irvine (Ross County) It is my prediction that Celtic are going to one day regret not giving Jackson Irvine more of a chance at Parkhead. They did offer the Australian a new contract in the summer, but the player revealed this was nothing more than a move to ensure a compensation fee, and that he’d been told he had little future at the club. Personally, Irvine seems well suited to playing one of the deeper roles in Ronny Deila’s 4-2-3-1, and given the Celtic manager’s obviously respect for the Ladbrokes Premiership given his signing policy, you’d have thought Deila might have been swayed by the player’s rapid improvement in the first half of 2015 as Ross County rocketed themselves up the league table. Since signing for County permanently in the summer, you’ll be pleased to hear, Irvine has continued to develop and played a starring role in his team’s victory over rivals Inverness CT, which put them in their first ever League Cup semi-final, where they’ll meet Celtic, ironically enough. Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/top-50-scottish-football-players-in-2015-20-11-1-3989077 #ixzz3vyeYVFiJ  decent form this year.  no rogic in 50-11.  do you reckon he will make the ten?  Would be amazing since he has only played for 6 of the  12 months of the year.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    lebo_roo wrote:inala brah wrote:moofa wrote:Scottish paper doing a top 50 players of 2015. Irvine got 17th which is pretty decent for a player 22 year old who at the start of the year was in a team that looked guaranteed for relegation. His part just says Celtic should have kept him. Quote:17. Jackson Irvine (Ross County) It is my prediction that Celtic are going to one day regret not giving Jackson Irvine more of a chance at Parkhead. They did offer the Australian a new contract in the summer, but the player revealed this was nothing more than a move to ensure a compensation fee, and that he’d been told he had little future at the club. Personally, Irvine seems well suited to playing one of the deeper roles in Ronny Deila’s 4-2-3-1, and given the Celtic manager’s obviously respect for the Ladbrokes Premiership given his signing policy, you’d have thought Deila might have been swayed by the player’s rapid improvement in the first half of 2015 as Ross County rocketed themselves up the league table. Since signing for County permanently in the summer, you’ll be pleased to hear, Irvine has continued to develop and played a starring role in his team’s victory over rivals Inverness CT, which put them in their first ever League Cup semi-final, where they’ll meet Celtic, ironically enough. Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/top-50-scottish-football-players-in-2015-20-11-1-3989077 #ixzz3vyeYVFiJ  decent form this year.  no rogic in 50-11.  do you reckon he will make the ten?  Would be amazing since he has only played for 6 of the  12 months of the year. I would be very surprised if he is in the top 10. While his stats are great he has gone missing in too many games and when he plays poorly he hardly gets a touch. I also think the his languid running style makes people think he is not prepared to fight when the game is going against them. The previously mentioned not playing last season will probably be the biggest factor though.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    moofa wrote:lebo_roo wrote:inala brah wrote:moofa wrote:Scottish paper doing a top 50 players of 2015. Irvine got 17th which is pretty decent for a player 22 year old who at the start of the year was in a team that looked guaranteed for relegation. His part just says Celtic should have kept him. Quote:17. Jackson Irvine (Ross County) It is my prediction that Celtic are going to one day regret not giving Jackson Irvine more of a chance at Parkhead. They did offer the Australian a new contract in the summer, but the player revealed this was nothing more than a move to ensure a compensation fee, and that he’d been told he had little future at the club. Personally, Irvine seems well suited to playing one of the deeper roles in Ronny Deila’s 4-2-3-1, and given the Celtic manager’s obviously respect for the Ladbrokes Premiership given his signing policy, you’d have thought Deila might have been swayed by the player’s rapid improvement in the first half of 2015 as Ross County rocketed themselves up the league table. Since signing for County permanently in the summer, you’ll be pleased to hear, Irvine has continued to develop and played a starring role in his team’s victory over rivals Inverness CT, which put them in their first ever League Cup semi-final, where they’ll meet Celtic, ironically enough. Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/top-50-scottish-football-players-in-2015-20-11-1-3989077 #ixzz3vyeYVFiJ  decent form this year.  no rogic in 50-11.  do you reckon he will make the ten?  Would be amazing since he has only played for 6 of the  12 months of the year. I would be very surprised if he is in the top 10. While his stats are great he has gone missing in too many games and when he plays poorly he hardly gets a touch. I also think the his languid running style makes people think he is not prepared to fight when the game is going against them. The previously mentioned not playing last season will probably be the biggest factor though. i would be ridiculously surprised if he was in the top 10.  he is only just being considered starting 11 material.  and his work rate is a bit soft. he is a turnstile in defence.  he's going to have to pull a full season before he gets considered seriously o/s edit - he's going to have to pull a full 90 before he gets seriously considered o/s.Edited by inala brah: 1/1/2016 09:44:39 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Eastern Glory wrote:Dan_The_Red wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:johnszasz wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:How long is Elder out for? 2-3 months. He's returned to Leicester for rehab. Fmd.  No surprise, just part of the trend. Did the football illuminati do it to him because he can find Australia on a map?  Yeah good one, you really showed me.:-$  (My initial comment was actually referring to the injuries our players seem to cop at key times, but your all-star comprehension skills intervened).Edited by Dan_The_Red: 1/1/2016 11:52:22 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech  should be selected a head of Ryan
 Domenech  never played 1 minute of  La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league  with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga  team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
 With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better.  If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty.  I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the  greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team?    he never manage a team before.. he may never have managed a football team before and neither have you even left that couch of yours so of the two opinions Im going to have to say Gary Neville just shades you. No hard feelings yeah ? no..but seeing as you have the same opinion each time (the coach is right, and he knows best)    there really no more you can ad on the subject                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech  should be selected a head of Ryan
 Domenech  never played 1 minute of  La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league  with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga  team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
 With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better.  If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty.  I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the  greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team?    he never manage a team before.. he may never have managed a football team before and neither have you even left that couch of yours so of the two opinions Im going to have to say Gary Neville just shades you. No hard feelings yeah ? no..but seeing as you have the same opinion each time (the coach is right, and he knows best)    there really no more you can ad on the subject Well I wouldnt say I said he knows best I just needed to emphasize he knows more than you. Comprendes ? :d                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech  should be selected a head of Ryan
 Domenech  never played 1 minute of  La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league  with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga  team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
 With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better.  If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty.  I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the  greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team?    he never manage a team before.. he may never have managed a football team before and neither have you even left that couch of yours so of the two opinions Im going to have to say Gary Neville just shades you. No hard feelings yeah ? no..but seeing as you have the same opinion each time (the coach is right, and he knows best)    there really no more you can ad on the subject Well I wouldnt say I said he knows best I just needed to emphasize he knows more than you. Comprendes ? :d  you would think that the case, but that not how it work out..and to not question a 25 year old Spain 3rd league player  who now being selected ahead of 2 time Belgian Pro league Goal Keeper of the year  (23 year old Ryan) , and with Valencia  mid table in Spain, and being knock out of a easy group in Champions League (Zenit, Gent, Lyon) all when Domenechs was in Goals I guess we stop talking about football then  :lol: :lol: Edited by adrtho: 2/1/2016 01:40:25 AM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Eastern Glory wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:lukerobinho wrote:grazorblade wrote:Luongo is similar quality to rogicIt's amazing he can't get minutes
 
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			    adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech  should be selected a head of Ryan
 Domenech  never played 1 minute of  La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league  with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga  team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
 With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better.  If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty.  I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the  greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team?    he never manage a team before.. he may never have managed a football team before and neither have you even left that couch of yours so of the two opinions Im going to have to say Gary Neville just shades you. No hard feelings yeah ? no..but seeing as you have the same opinion each time (the coach is right, and he knows best)    there really no more you can ad on the subject Well I wouldnt say I said he knows best I just needed to emphasize he knows more than you. Comprendes ? :d  you would think that the case, but that not how it work out..and to not question a 25 year old Spain 3rd league player  who now being selected ahead of 2 time Belgian Pro league Goal Keeper of the year  (23 year old Ryan) , and with Valencia  mid table in Spain, and being knock out of a easy group in Champions League (Zenit, Gent, Lyon) all when Domenechs was in Goals I guess we stop talking about football then  :lol: :lol: Edited by adrtho: 2/1/2016 01:40:25 AM Most reports I have read have said that Domenech would be Valencia's player of the season so far ... So it must have been solely his fault that they have lost the games that they have?                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Langerak will be training with the team from January 4. He's been doing drills for two months privately. Reports show they're content Tyton and are glad to have two good keepers. Tyton still makes silly mistakes for a keeper with a lot of experience.  Game on.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech  should be selected a head of Ryan
 Domenech  never played 1 minute of  La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league  with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga  team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
 With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better.  If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty.  I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the  greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team?    he never manage a team before.. he may never have managed a football team before and neither have you even left that couch of yours so of the two opinions Im going to have to say Gary Neville just shades you. No hard feelings yeah ? no..but seeing as you have the same opinion each time (the coach is right, and he knows best)    there really no more you can ad on the subject Well I wouldnt say I said he knows best I just needed to emphasize he knows more than you. Comprendes ? :d  you would think that the case, but that not how it work out..and to not question a 25 year old Spain 3rd league player  who now being selected ahead of 2 time Belgian Pro league Goal Keeper of the year  (23 year old Ryan) , and with Valencia  mid table in Spain, and being knock out of a easy group in Champions League (Zenit, Gent, Lyon) all when Domenechs was in Goals I guess we stop talking about football then  :lol: :lol: Edited by adrtho: 2/1/2016 01:40:25 AM oh dear... running out of material so still desperately holding on to the Domenech being of the Spanish 3rd tier and Ryan being excellent for brugges and totally forgetting the present situation whereby a hugely experienced (that is far greater than me and perhaps even a smidge more than you) gaffer just doesnt rate him as highly as you. That doesnt mean you need to take the posters down.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    biscuitman1871 wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech  should be selected a head of Ryan
 Domenech  never played 1 minute of  La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league  with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga  team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
 With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better.  If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty.  I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the  greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team?    he never manage a team before.. he may never have managed a football team before and neither have you even left that couch of yours so of the two opinions Im going to have to say Gary Neville just shades you. No hard feelings yeah ? no..but seeing as you have the same opinion each time (the coach is right, and he knows best)    there really no more you can ad on the subject Well I wouldnt say I said he knows best I just needed to emphasize he knows more than you. Comprendes ? :d  you would think that the case, but that not how it work out..and to not question a 25 year old Spain 3rd league player  who now being selected ahead of 2 time Belgian Pro league Goal Keeper of the year  (23 year old Ryan) , and with Valencia  mid table in Spain, and being knock out of a easy group in Champions League (Zenit, Gent, Lyon) all when Domenechs was in Goals I guess we stop talking about football then  :lol: :lol: Edited by adrtho: 2/1/2016 01:40:25 AM Most reports I have read have said that Domenech would be Valencia's player of the season so far ... So it must have been solely his fault that they have lost the games that they have? Is that so Biscuits ? Well thats great for the fella because if you hadnt heard he was a 3rd tier goalie last season :lol:    I did say to highkick the times Ive seen him he looked perfectly fine. Wonder how Adrtho is going to take this news  :lol: :lol:                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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