| Decentric 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    jas88 wrote:Don't think Neville will be around long.... Moyes is a little different he had at least coached before, this experiment will be over pretty quickly as they are still getting pumped. After reading Tim Cahill's autobiography, Moyes is a Reactive coach. This is the antithesis of the way the Spanish try to play football.  Why a Spanish club, Valencia, would have Moyes, who is a Reactive, not  a Proactive coach, and Neville, who is also inexperienced as  well, both of them trained by a poor national association, the FA, is perplexing?Edited by Decentric: 2/1/2016 04:55:50 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Straight Bat
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    inala brah wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:adrtho wrote:Straight Bat wrote:highkick05 wrote:adrtho wrote:there absolutely nothing in Domenech past game , that would suggest Domenech  should be selected a head of Ryan
 Domenech  never played 1 minute of  La Liga or cup football before this year, spent most of his time in Spain 3rd league ..Valencia fail to get past Gent from Belgium in Champion league  with Domenech in goals , and if Valencia going to become a mid table La Liga  team, then Ryan is better off going back to Club brugge
 With ya there adrtho. Valencia may end up getting slammed back to bottom of the table. Nuno's treatment of Ryan was better.  If your manager doesn't back the player who the fuck else will ? Even if Maty is fighting fit and ready to play the game of his life can you see Neville taking a shine to him ? This is a big trucking problem. Certainly Neville is not backing Maty one fucking bit. Which permeates through the entire team/league/fucking world Massively get the fuck out of there Maty.  I'm losing respect for English football, first they screw their players, then they screw their managers, now they're screwing just about anybody/league. They obviously over rate themselves when it comes to football. Hope Neville crashes harder than Moyes I take it you have seen a lot of Domenechs keeping over the last few years ? Take it you have streamed a fair few Spanish 3rd tier games of his as well as perhaps seeing him training day in, day out ? Well I havent, so id be inclined to not comment in so much detail about the fella suffice to say the games I have seen him in this year he was fine. In respect to Matty Ryan, I thought he was very good (not excellent) in the A League and obviously outstanding for Brugges. Now if you personally believe he is brilliant and his 'past' form for Brugges somehow warrants a walk up start then again thats your opinion. Me, I'll leave the decision making to a man of enormous experience and who has these guys train before him and his coaching staff, in person (not the net) day in, day out. and I dont even like the Nevilles... big jump up from Spain 3rds to what was a top 8 team in Europe ... you can be the  greatest trainer in the world, it doesn't mean shit if you consistently underperform game day what enormous experience does Neville have in managing a team?    he never manage a team before.. he may never have managed a football team before and neither have you even left that couch of yours so of the two opinions Im going to have to say Gary Neville just shades you. No hard feelings yeah ? no..but seeing as you have the same opinion each time (the coach is right, and he knows best)    there really no more you can ad on the subject Well I wouldnt say I said he knows best I just needed to emphasize he knows more than you. Comprendes ? :d  you would think that the case, but that not how it work out..and to not question a 25 year old Spain 3rd league player  who now being selected ahead of 2 time Belgian Pro league Goal Keeper of the year  (23 year old Ryan) , and with Valencia  mid table in Spain, and being knock out of a easy group in Champions League (Zenit, Gent, Lyon) all when Domenechs was in Goals I guess we stop talking about football then  :lol: :lol: Edited by adrtho: 2/1/2016 01:40:25 AM oh dear... running out of material so still desperately holding on to the Domenech being of the Spanish 3rd tier and Ryan being excellent for brugges and totally forgetting the present situation whereby a hugely experienced (that is far greater than me and perhaps even a smidge more than you) gaffer just doesnt rate him as highly as you. That doesnt mean you need to take the posters down. your argument is thin.  just because someone is more experienced doesnt mean they make better decisions. doesnt mean they make the best situational assessments.  doesnt mean that they are free from the limitations of their own prejudices.    its smug and naive. you know what mate id still take Gary Nevilles opinion over two armchair critics in Australia. I would go so far as to say as would the great majority of football followers in this world. just the fact you two are still crying amuses me greatly.. carry on. :lol:                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| lukerobinho 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    b0ydman wrote:Aussies seem to get a disproportionate amount of bench time. That needs to be discussed
 I don't know if there is subconscious hate or any conspiracy
 
 Maybe our boys get a contract_because_they are aussies and have played at international level, is it possible they are playing at clubs 1 level_above_ their skill?
 
 Having said that, seeing Luongo on Championship pine is just ridiculous.
 
 I rate Rogic more important, but Luongo a more rounded player. You just can't ignore rogics match breaking ability. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in the top 10. Or in the top 100-200 even.  Anyone know how long before he is able to do a full 90.
 
 Ryan is better than a #3. Anywhere. This is career killing
 
 We need a lot of players to move in January
 And yet Rogic hasn't been able to do it against anyone other than a couple of pub teams is scotland                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Socceroofan4life 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    lukerobinho wrote:b0ydman wrote:Aussies seem to get a disproportionate amount of bench time. That needs to be discussed
 I don't know if there is subconscious hate or any conspiracy
 
 Maybe our boys get a contract_because_they are aussies and have played at international level, is it possible they are playing at clubs 1 level_above_ their skill?
 
 Having said that, seeing Luongo on Championship pine is just ridiculous.
 
 I rate Rogic more important, but Luongo a more rounded player. You just can't ignore rogics match breaking ability. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in the top 10. Or in the top 100-200 even.  Anyone know how long before he is able to do a full 90.
 
 Ryan is better than a #3. Anywhere. This is career killing
 
 We need a lot of players to move in January
 And yet Rogic hasn't been able to do it against anyone other than a couple of pub teams is scotland   Yet another case of someone criminally underrated scottish football. "Pub teams" seriously?                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Eastern Glory 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    lukerobinho wrote:b0ydman wrote:Aussies seem to get a disproportionate amount of bench time. That needs to be discussed
 I don't know if there is subconscious hate or any conspiracy
 
 Maybe our boys get a contract_because_they are aussies and have played at international level, is it possible they are playing at clubs 1 level_above_ their skill?
 
 Having said that, seeing Luongo on Championship pine is just ridiculous.
 
 I rate Rogic more important, but Luongo a more rounded player. You just can't ignore rogics match breaking ability. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in the top 10. Or in the top 100-200 even.  Anyone know how long before he is able to do a full 90.
 
 Ryan is better than a #3. Anywhere. This is career killing
 
 We need a lot of players to move in January
 And yet Rogic hasn't been able to do it against anyone other than a couple of pub teams is scotland   He did it very convincingly in Australia.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Slobodan Drauposevic 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    All this "if he was a euro!" shit is seriously bad :lol:
 Wake the fuck up to yourselves.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Socceroofan4life 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Draupnir wrote:All this "if he was a euro!" shit is seriously bad :lol:
 Wake the fuck up to yourselves.
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Eastern Glory 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Socceroofan4life wrote:Draupnir wrote:All this "if he was a euro!" shit is seriously bad :lol:
 Wake the fuck up to yourselves.
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| The_Captain 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    I'm still not sure if he could play for Australia, but Andy Rose has just signed for Coventry from Seattle.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Bowden 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    The_Captain wrote:I'm still not sure if he could play for Australia, but Andy Rose has just signed for Coventry from Seattle. Cap him.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| adrtho 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    The_Captain wrote:I'm still not sure if he could play for Australia, but Andy Rose has just signed for Coventry from Seattle. fuck, why would he want to do that!                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| adrtho 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Smith on Liverpool bench                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    adrtho wrote:Smith on Liverpool bench Let's hope there's  a sprinkler on the pitch...                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| highkick05 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Socceroofan4life wrote:adrtho wrote:Smith on Liverpool bench Let's hope there's  a sprinkler on the pitch... So did someone just say he's on the bench AGAIN WOOP WOOP , excitement looms, this cunt will be playing soon \:d/ ;)                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Go brad smith. 
 Interesting to see how Andy rose goes in league one.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| adrtho 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    u4486662 wrote:Go brad smith. 
 Interesting to see how Andy rose goes in league one.
 going to be a big drop down for him,  playing in front of 45,000 Aevrage home fans each week at Seattle , to Coventry City :lol:                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Bowden 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    If Brad Smith was Spanish he'd be starting.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Socceroofan4life 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Bowden wrote:If Brad Smith was Spanish he'd be starting. Jürgen Klopp is racist against Australians                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| highkick05 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			     Smith to frame this pic, cos his not spanish                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Liverpool left back just caught out. almost a turnover goal.
 Hoping LFC #18 has a stinker
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Yeop goal down Livingpool                
			                   
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    And right on cue. 
 #18 ****ed up. Commentators saying his being so far out of position he should be slaughtered by his own players.
 
 Help me. I'm half cut. Was that goal through liverpools LB or RB?
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Smith played in England under 21 team                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| highkick05 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    b0ydman wrote:And right on cue. 
 #18 ****ed up. Commentators saying his being so far out of position he should be slaughtered by his own players.
 
 Help me. I'm half cut. Was that goal through liverpools LB or RB?
 LB bro in replay8-[                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    adrtho wrote:Smith played in England under 21 team  But senior cap for Socceroos. So he's locked in for us. Help me in my ignorance..LB means as the Liverpool goalie looks forward, Smith would be on his far left? Is #18 the LFC LB? He seems so far forward? Back to the game, how did that not go in. Liverpool defense all at sea                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Socceroofan4life 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Brad Smith is a pretty damn attacking player.
 If liverpool are still trailing in the second half i could see him getting on.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Moreno with a goal saving tackle.
 Nah i guess Brad smith is not getting game time cause he's Australian.
 
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Socceroofan4life wrote:Moreno with a goal saving tackle.
 Nah i guess Brad smith is not getting game time cause he's Australian.
 That was great tracking back by Morino.  The commentators are still giving it too him for staying down leading to that goal ( 21 seconds later 80 metres upfield)                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Socceroofan4life 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    b0ydman wrote:Socceroofan4life wrote:Moreno with a goal saving tackle.
 Nah i guess Brad smith is not getting game time cause he's Australian.
 That was great tracking back by Morino.  The commentators are still giving it too him for staying down leading to that goal ( 21 seconds later 80 metres upfield) They said it was a foul and Liverpool were unlucky not to get a foul on my stream.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| adrtho 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    b0ydman wrote:adrtho wrote:Smith played in England under 21 team  But senior cap for Socceroos. So he's locked in for us. Help me in my ignorance..LB means as the Liverpool goalie looks forward, Smith would be on his far left? Is #18 the LFC LB? He seems so far forward? Back to the game, how did that not go in. Liverpool defense all at sea yes, #18 is left back for LFC                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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