Couple of "cliche" comments JF...I hope not directed over my way though I expect your reply to say in general.
It sure does have some merit from observations be it in any sport but its not my dream FYI.
I'm just giving my kid the opportunity at His want and its up to him to make it or break it as I advise him, walk off knowing you have put in 110% thats all you can do.

I call BS that in selections the first 10-12 are the obvious stand outs - 1-3 are questionable imo here and there no doubt about it....
Ofcourse the fringe parents would whinge, thats in every sport we can all agree here, matching trackys etc LOL yes they should all STFU !
Your arrogance JF is understandable probably having been vented by the many whinging parent over the years I would feel the same but there IS us honest and good ones who know our kids limitations, I can't stand getting involved I keep away most times the opposite sideline people watching, it sure is humourous and sad at times.

Yes, agree, my arrogance is obvious.

No other way around it if people want to hear the cold, hard and sobering reality (sans a 5,000 word essay).

The real sad part about all this? When these crazed parents (90% are at least borderline yet not conscious of it) kids hit mid 20's or early 30's they'll look back at their youth (when they were highly influenced by parents) and wonder WTF was that all about and for what reason?

Sockah is a sport. To be enjoyed. Parents need to remind themselves that it is their kid's independent leisure time, not theirs. It's not a pathway to riches, fame or indeed a way of life. Any bragging rights that parents feel they've earnt via their kids (apparent) success is short-lived.





Edited by judy free: 22/11/2012 11:34:59 AM

I think I've written this before, but here goes again;

In elite junior/youth sport there are three categories of parents.

1) crazed whining sideline stalkers who hate the coach and speak negatively about everybody

2) fanatics who outwardly love the coach and shout loudly about the fact at any opportunity

3) laid back realists who watch and enjoy from afar

Categories 1 and 2 trade places regularly over the course of a season. Category 3 is a smallish group who, if in the system long enough, can become contaminated.

In short, elite junior/youth sport is a veritabe shitfight. Always will be, regardless of which sport or the location. Put it down to human nature. At the end of the day if you can't stand the heat then get outa the kitchen. And, may I suggest that every so often look at yourself in the mirror and make an honest assessment of your own role as a supposed supporting parent.

Judy,

Your under some delusion kids listen to their parents. Don't have kids of your own?

Despite my best efforts just sometimes they have find out for themselves. As much as I hated wasting my time as I knew his outcome 30 years ago, as a parent we just support our kids. No matter if it was ping pong or thumb twiddling. That's what parents do. Weird eh...

thupercoach,

Consistency can only come with playing higher level. The more you coach him the less he will appeal to other coaches. Get him in somewhere ASAP.

All this is moot really. The Sth African lads are taking over. Big tall strong lads with loads of street skill and no birth certificates. A coaches dream come true.



Edited by Aussiesrus: 22/11/2012 03:21:03 PM

Hmmm I THINK I HAVE A SOLUTION!!

Bear with me here...

We all know talent is a nuisence and their parents don't pay the bills.

What needs to be done is open the selections to the highest bidders.

The end result is clubs get mega rich and buy themselves into A-League. Then the highest bidders in A-League get selected for Socceroo duty.

FFA get mega rich and buy FIFA officials which in turn buys Australia the world cup.

No more financial worries for clubs, No more selection headaches and useless trials. No more worrying about tiny gate takings. Atmosphere's can be replaced by loudspeakers with crowd tapes and a DJ pushing the ahhh and oooh button. And of course a button for the ref abuse. No more pressure for players to perform.

See the solution is simple really...

haha I'm somewhere between 2 & 3. I didn't realise I came across as such a dick when being 2 so will try much harder to be 3.

Edited by neverwozza: 22/11/2012 04:03:21 PM

3 or 4 across the whole comp or just in their side???

I'm not actually coaching him as such, just had a lot to do with teaching him football, whether via advice or watching on TV (an invaluable tool I might add - not enough kids watch the game). I'm coaching his 6 a side team atm, but this is the first and last time.

Any advise or views please (sydney based) - I'm sure many know the changes for PL then Elite 1 and 2.
Jnrs (12's to 15's) haven't got a state comp therefore the clubs omitted still will form squads and enter the local comps (nothing wrong with that imo) and nuture the kids for 16's and their future.
Does anyone have info and comments positive/negatives on clubs like Gladesville Magic/Northbridge etcetc....

Depends on the football insight of fathers.

As Aussiesrus says, some fathers have insight into football.

According to Aussie, Rogic was overlooked as a triallist in programs.

I'm certainly a fan of the FFA NC, but, like most, I'm not aware of all the selection processes and people conducting them across the country within FFA. Few are. Mistakes are often made. In this state, we still have a belief amongst too many coaches that players must be of a certain physical stature to play rep football.

Cahill was also overlooked for rep teams at trials. He was told he was too small.

Congratulations.

It takes a big person to admit this.

The majority of 442 forum would agree with you.

one of the few kids i have seen that could have made it at euro academy 3 years ago is now a nuffin player but still selected.

pay for him to be a coached for 3 years and then have 1 on 1 coaching 8 weeks before trials , the same coach that is a selector will find it hard to say no to someone he has coached. Alot of selection is based on what they were like 3 years ago and coach doesnt want to change his mind as promises have been made.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I like it!!! Maybe if I get Frankie Farina to do some private coaching for him at a few hundred bucks an hour he may get into the NYL side by the time he is 15.

I'm completely at ease with that.

I don't have too much patience to argue sockah theory with inexperienced tossers.

Whole comp.

The odds of some day playing pro football are long.

The odds of needing a 9 to 5 job to pay the rent are short.