Two chances? I would say one with the SXFC bid.

We were warned off by O'Neill the first time around.

You didn't answer the question.

Well his not on the Board of Directors, as far as his inside knowledge he can speak for himself.

As far as official SMFC policy how can you seriously believe that SMFC has an agenda to bring down Melbourne Heart? I'm sure they can do that on their own.

I need to hire Chris to do PR for me.

Edited by Arthur: 11/2/2013 01:51:54 PM

My understanding is that Heart (or the FFA more approriately) plagerized some aspects of the Melbb Knights bid and gave it to Heart.

Sometimes I think the culture and attidue of a club is best reflected by its members than the "official board position".

This entire thread has been a shameless, merciless attack on Heart and desire to see it collapse so South can have a crack.

I'm yet to see any South fans stick up for Heart other than the ridiculous idea that by bringing South in will "save" the club.

Chris is aware that SMFC's best chance for A league is for Heart to collapse to free up the second Melbourne license, so that explains his whole anti Heart agenda (as encapsulated in the thread title) and many of his South colleagues.

The vibe I'm getting is South fans aren't really part of the collective drive all A league clubs and fans share to grow the A league and make it a success, but are still plagued by the same self interest that precluded them from being part of the A league in the first place.

Getting a bid defensive there mate - know that you're fighting a losing battle?

I was no where near the ripped out seats at Etihad. I was happy watching the game from the Medallion section - where were you seated?

Be careful what you wish for Rusty.




Wow! just some light banter thats gone 108 pages.




Actually it is one of the key positives that came out of this Topic.



Does it have to Heart, would Wellington or CCM or even Perth suffice? Is there a back up if any franchise goes under what then?

Again raises the question is the current model going to work? Does it need adjustment? I noticew a new topic started about when will stadium deals become a positive cashflow instaed of a negative. A reality that the Heart will be facing soon.




Then you need to get out more.

Some of the stuff that I read from the Victory supporters is pretty tame compared to what us SMFC supporters have written, yet I see most of you Heart supporters are afraid to retaliate. Maybe thats why you throw botlles at little boys and chairs around the stadium.
:d

Funnily enough I was right next to you in the medallion club, as the Heart "supporters" if thats what you called them, were to my my left and below as you should know if you were in the medallion club.

And I had a beautiful position to see several full water bottles miss the head and body of a little ball boy. And to see the Medallion Club members look at disdain upon the Heart Hooligan element disrupting our enjoyment of a good cab/sav.

The only losing battle I see is Heart's fight for life, its fight for relevance and its fight for identity.

I've given my op ed on how I think they can do it.

Edited by Arthur: 11/2/2013 02:52:29 PM

Please Arthur. I'm not condoning the little shits who broke chairs and what not, but from your view you would have seen the rain of spit, beer and coins on the Heart supporters. You must have conveniently forgotten. Every supporter base has its idiots. And most Heart fans know better than to troll themselves and look in this thread. The few Heart fans that do post in here, whilst I admire their enthusiasm, do not stand for the rest.

And this losing battle nonsense; whatever helps you sleep at night. We are here to stay; if you want to continue to inflate this thread with misguided elitism and arrogance, go right ahead. At the end of the day Heart are in the a league, and South are in the VPL. Those are the facts, without hyperbole.

Thankyou for making a clear point, "The few Heart fans that do post in here, whilst I admire their enthusiasm, do not stand for the rest.", I'm trying to make the same point about SMFC yet no traction from your comrades.

As far as some Victory supporters same issue but we are talking about Heart here with SMFC thrown in. The point is as long we can accept that we all have elements we don't like in our clubs I'm fine with that and as you must know I have stated that dickheads are dickheads who are hoping that the odds are in their favour that they won't get caught. Yet to some of your fellow Heart supporters it is ethnic soccer based violence and until they can accept that is about dickheads I have to retort with the incident at Etihad until it sinks into their skulls.

I'd really like you to point out my misguided elitism and arrogance as I feel I have been pretty much up front. While you will notice I will retaliate with a smart arse comment when I cop one in my direction, which I think is fair enough.

Yep Heart are in the A-League and South is in the VPL thats a fact jack. But as I said South Melbourne is just plugging along doing its best it can do more just as Heart can only do its best.

And I have pointed out how I think Heart can improve and given a slap on the back where deserved (I very much admire Scott Munn) and a whack where deserved (I think Didiluca should go).


Edited by Arthur: 11/2/2013 03:41:10 PM

I've only rarely ventured into this thread so the arrogance comment would only apply to your few previous posts. All the posts fromthe anti smfc brigade about ethnic violence etc are irrelevant but when as a Heart fan or sympathiser you are confronted with such an inflammatory thread title I can't blame the low quality of posts.

I think most useful to getting your smfc points across would be a generic smfc thread where a platform for more intelligent discussion can be had. Unfortunately valid discussion points about the FFA and expansion are lost. Also, I'm unbiased enough to see that Heart have made mistakes. However imo the two are mostly unrelated and when tied to the same thread it becomes a shit flinging exercise.

The bolded quote would be more than "not a bad result at all" - it would be stunning. The crowds I talked about were in order to beat last year's non-derby figures. Factor in the derbies as well and they will get nowhere near last year's average.

The tv deal kicking in will provide them with an extra million plus change, which is about what they made through player sales this year... So they will be back to square one - unless they can find 2-3 more players to sell. Babalj to Europe #2 might be a goer - but will anyone be willing to stump up another $400k for a player who failed to make the grade (this time) in Serbia?

Chris has never said he speaks on behalf of South, he is a supporter and member who refers to the club as "we" (as a member - rather than season ticket holder - it really is 'WE' at South). I'd no more take his views of South as official than I'd take Paulc's views of Roar as being official, or Notorganic's opinions of Victory, etc.

Mine are official

Never doubted you for a second.

Knowing nothing about him other than what I read on these pages, it does not come across as simply as you put it. There have been a number of times where he has intimated that he was privy to information a regular member of SMFC (or indeed the general public) would not know.

Yeah he said he's been involved in closed board meetings before which would indicate he may be high up the rope (chain wouldn't be the right word) at South.

Chris knows people on the committee at the club - as do most of us. I've no doubt he's been told things that aren't in the 'public domain', but that doesn't mean he is speaking for the club.

You can see how the lines can get blurred.

Very easily - which I why I clarified the situation. ;)

I'm amazed this topic is still alive. Time to move on and enjoy VPL. Heart are doing fine. Probably the most conservative club in HAL. Sure they've made mistakes in recruitment i.e. Maycon, Grella (risk well worth taking). But, its run by some good business people and it needs success on the pitch with a decent coach. Give them a chance.

SM will never make it to HAL. They have everything they need to take that leap, but unfortunately are tied to ethnic Greeks. That fact will hold them back for ever.

Close thread.

When did I say that?????????

Now you are bullshitting = desperation stakes if you ask me

I find it amusing Rusty that your whole argument regarding south is based solely on 1 topic which is the ethnic line - yet we at South Melbourne find this the most easiest to overcome - there are much much bigger priorities for the club

This ethnic stuff you keep pushing is irrelevant when pitted against the fact that the true meaning of south is one of community - it is open to all and committees are elected

South today is a footy club - it does not deny its heritage - but to say that there is only 1 corridor is lunacy

If I wanted a Greek fix - smfc is not really the place for it - there are many better alternatives

Any way rusty whatever makes you sleep better at night....but start getting used to the idea of south 1 day playing at the highest level - for your own sanity - not mine





Edited by chris: 11/2/2013 10:15:32 PM

Lol

There is stuff going on Bengamin that We are aware off that we cannot post here

That's what makes this club so special - it's our club

Not only do we follow it and endorse it - but we also protect it



Edited by chris: 11/2/2013 10:22:23 PM

On wards we go, you learn to play nice.

From skips and the filthy public right? I bet you would have no problem sharing that special information with me if i were Greek, or Greek convert like Ben.

Rusty pull your head out of your arse.

Of course people want to protect their clubs, it's nothing different to what Heart fans are doing on this thread. Protecting their club from what they perceive as a threat/attack on their club. Does it always have to come down to race and evil ethnics with you?

Ahhh, curse those troublesome Greeks!

Your reponses are getting weaker to the point they are not worth consideration

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Edited by chris: 12/2/2013 03:04:16 AM