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Iridium1010 wrote:Just trying to work out the costs involved, and what it would be like if we had a national 2nd tier, other state competitions seem to be scared of the travel costs for regional teams, but QLD seem to do it fine. In qld they give each NPL club $45,000 a year to cover the cost of employing a Director of coaching, they also cover the travel ,food and accommodation cost of the teams above $10,000 a year. Total bill to qld jnrs 7 SEQ teams 3 trips each = $24,000 x 3 = $72000 - $30,000 cost = $42,000 3 Regional 9 trips each = $72,000 x 9 = $216,000 - $30,000 cost = $186,000 10 teams $45,000 each for DOC = $450,000 Bargain price to you and your kids = $678,000 And how many qld npls can i interest you in sir.
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krones3
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clivesundies wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Just trying to work out the costs involved, and what it would be like if we had a national 2nd tier, other state competitions seem to be scared of the travel costs for regional teams, but QLD seem to do it fine. In qld they give each NPL club $45,000 a year to cover the cost of employing a Director of coaching, they also cover the travel ,food and accommodation cost of the teams above $10,000 a year. Total bill to qld jnrs 7 SEQ teams 3 trips each = $24,000 x 3 = $72000 - $30,000 cost = $42,000 3 Regional 9 trips each = $72,000 x 9 = $216,000 - $30,000 cost = $186,000 10 teams $45,000 each for DOC = $450,000 Bargain price to you and your kids = $678,000 And how many qld npls can i interest you in sir. What would you do?
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krones3 wrote:clivesundies wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Just trying to work out the costs involved, and what it would be like if we had a national 2nd tier, other state competitions seem to be scared of the travel costs for regional teams, but QLD seem to do it fine. In qld they give each NPL club $45,000 a year to cover the cost of employing a Director of coaching, they also cover the travel ,food and accommodation cost of the teams above $10,000 a year. Total bill to qld jnrs 7 SEQ teams 3 trips each = $24,000 x 3 = $72000 - $30,000 cost = $42,000 3 Regional 9 trips each = $72,000 x 9 = $216,000 - $30,000 cost = $186,000 10 teams $45,000 each for DOC = $450,000 Bargain price to you and your kids = $678,000 And how many qld npls can i interest you in sir. What would you do? Thats a very big question and one that i dont pretend to have all the answers to. But i do know that spending the millions of dollars that we have over the last 6 years to fly adults around queensland is a waist when we only have 1 SAP coach in the state and 50,000 jnr players under the age of 13 to educate.
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clivesundies wrote:krones3 wrote:clivesundies wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Just trying to work out the costs involved, and what it would be like if we had a national 2nd tier, other state competitions seem to be scared of the travel costs for regional teams, but QLD seem to do it fine. In qld they give each NPL club $45,000 a year to cover the cost of employing a Director of coaching, they also cover the travel ,food and accommodation cost of the teams above $10,000 a year. Total bill to qld jnrs 7 SEQ teams 3 trips each = $24,000 x 3 = $72000 - $30,000 cost = $42,000 3 Regional 9 trips each = $72,000 x 9 = $216,000 - $30,000 cost = $186,000 10 teams $45,000 each for DOC = $450,000 Bargain price to you and your kids = $678,000 And how many qld npls can i interest you in sir. What would you do? Thats a very big question and one that i dont pretend to have all the answers to. But i do know that spending the millions of dollars that we have over the last 6 years to fly adults around queensland is a waist when we only have 1 SAP coach in the state and 50,000 jnr players under the age of 13 to educate. We need top tear comps to give the kids idols and with no A league teams up here the NPL is the next best thing.Some kids up here think that NRL is bigger than football.:oops:
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krones3 wrote:clivesundies wrote:krones3 wrote:clivesundies wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Just trying to work out the costs involved, and what it would be like if we had a national 2nd tier, other state competitions seem to be scared of the travel costs for regional teams, but QLD seem to do it fine. In qld they give each NPL club $45,000 a year to cover the cost of employing a Director of coaching, they also cover the travel ,food and accommodation cost of the teams above $10,000 a year. Total bill to qld jnrs 7 SEQ teams 3 trips each = $24,000 x 3 = $72000 - $30,000 cost = $42,000 3 Regional 9 trips each = $72,000 x 9 = $216,000 - $30,000 cost = $186,000 10 teams $45,000 each for DOC = $450,000 Bargain price to you and your kids = $678,000 And how many qld npls can i interest you in sir. What would you do? Thats a very big question and one that i dont pretend to have all the answers to. But i do know that spending the millions of dollars that we have over the last 6 years to fly adults around queensland is a waist when we only have 1 SAP coach in the state and 50,000 jnr players under the age of 13 to educate. We need top tear comps to give the kids idols and with no A league teams up here the NPL is the next best thing.Some kids up here think that NRL is bigger than football.:oops: Some one to watch or be a better player themselves? Townsville has had a state league team for the past 6 years over that time i would estimate $750,000 has been spent on paying senior players and coaches to fly around queensland in the hope of producing an a-league player. So have they ? What player from the Razorbacks has gone on to be an a-league player. Alternatively that money could have been spent on 2 full time SAP coaches that would have transformed the technical ability of hundreds of young players improving the quality of local jnr competitions and really helping to develop top players. That to me is developing the game.
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clivesundies wrote:krones3 wrote:clivesundies wrote:krones3 wrote:clivesundies wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Just trying to work out the costs involved, and what it would be like if we had a national 2nd tier, other state competitions seem to be scared of the travel costs for regional teams, but QLD seem to do it fine. In qld they give each NPL club $45,000 a year to cover the cost of employing a Director of coaching, they also cover the travel ,food and accommodation cost of the teams above $10,000 a year. Total bill to qld jnrs 7 SEQ teams 3 trips each = $24,000 x 3 = $72000 - $30,000 cost = $42,000 3 Regional 9 trips each = $72,000 x 9 = $216,000 - $30,000 cost = $186,000 10 teams $45,000 each for DOC = $450,000 Bargain price to you and your kids = $678,000 And how many qld npls can i interest you in sir. What would you do? Thats a very big question and one that i dont pretend to have all the answers to. But i do know that spending the millions of dollars that we have over the last 6 years to fly adults around queensland is a waist when we only have 1 SAP coach in the state and 50,000 jnr players under the age of 13 to educate. We need top tear comps to give the kids idols and with no A league teams up here the NPL is the next best thing.Some kids up here think that NRL is bigger than football.:oops: Some one to watch or be a better player themselves? Townsville has had a state league team for the past 6 years over that time i would estimate $750,000 has been spent on paying senior players and coaches to fly around queensland in the hope of producing an a-league player. So have they ? What player from the Razorbacks has gone on to be an a-league player. Alternatively that money could have been spent on 2 full time SAP coaches that would have transformed the technical ability of hundreds of young players improving the quality of local jnr competitions and really helping to develop top players. That to me is developing the game. I think it is more complex and a small part of a bigger picture.
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Expansion into Central Queensland Quote:
National Premier League expansion into Gladstone on track
WHEN Joe Fenech left the Far North Queensland Heat head coach role, his sole intention was to set up a National Premier League team in Gladstone.
When he was told CQ Mariners FC would be in the competition in 2015, Fenech set about laying the groundwork for the new side.
"We were always going to be in the NPL in 2015. We were told that by Geoff Foster (Football Queensland CEO)," Fenech said.
"I would not have left as coach of an NPL team if that wasn't the case."
The hard work done to date is set to reap benefits for Fenech and his team of helpers, who have recently heard Football Queensland is likely to extend the NPL reach to Gladstone and Mackay, with 2015 in mind.
"There was a public announcement made by the chief operations officer Ben Mannion, which is an acknowledgement that Football Queensland has accepted us as a club in our right," Fenech said.
"It is the situation that we have always been told 2015, it was stated to Brian Niven and myself."
With the expansion, Central Queensland will welcome its second team into the NPL, with CQ Mariners joining the Rockhampton-based CQFC Energy after some recent positive news allowed the club to continue operations.
After being subjected to an audit from Football Queensland in the week before Christmas, the Energy was found to have no breaches.
"There were no grounds for anything being wrong," Mannion said after his investigation in Rockhampton.
"They have met all the requirements and they have a five-year licence, so on that basis they are meeting that criteria, only if there is a breach that we will recommend a remedy.
"We are happy with the turn around of the Energy."
Currently the director of coaching for Central Queensland, Fenech is glad the area's talent has forced Football Queensland to consider two teams.
While the deal is not yet done, Mannion is happy with NPL progress so far.
"We are in phase one of a five-year plan. We have expectations of welcoming more teams in," Mannion said.
http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/news/national-premier-league-expansion-gladstone/2127252/Edited by iridium1010: 1/1/2014 05:45:14 PM
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Iridium1010 wrote:Expansion into Central Queensland Quote:
National Premier League expansion into Gladstone on track
WHEN Joe Fenech left the Far North Queensland Heat head coach role, his sole intention was to set up a National Premier League team in Gladstone.
When he was told CQ Mariners FC would be in the competition in 2015, Fenech set about laying the groundwork for the new side.
"We were always going to be in the NPL in 2015. We were told that by Geoff Foster (Football Queensland CEO)," Fenech said.
"I would not have left as coach of an NPL team if that wasn't the case."
The hard work done to date is set to reap benefits for Fenech and his team of helpers, who have recently heard Football Queensland is likely to extend the NPL reach to Gladstone and Mackay, with 2015 in mind.
"There was a public announcement made by the chief operations officer Ben Mannion, which is an acknowledgement that Football Queensland has accepted us as a club in our right," Fenech said.
"It is the situation that we have always been told 2015, it was stated to Brian Niven and myself."
With the expansion, Central Queensland will welcome its second team into the NPL, with CQ Mariners joining the Rockhampton-based CQFC Energy after some recent positive news allowed the club to continue operations.
After being subjected to an audit from Football Queensland in the week before Christmas, the Energy was found to have no breaches.
"There were no grounds for anything being wrong," Mannion said after his investigation in Rockhampton.
"They have met all the requirements and they have a five-year licence, so on that basis they are meeting that criteria, only if there is a breach that we will recommend a remedy.
"We are happy with the turn around of the Energy."
Currently the director of coaching for Central Queensland, Fenech is glad the area's talent has forced Football Queensland to consider two teams.
While the deal is not yet done, Mannion is happy with NPL progress so far.
"We are in phase one of a five-year plan. We have expectations of welcoming more teams in," Mannion said.
http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/news/national-premier-league-expansion-gladstone/2127252/Edited by iridium1010: 1/1/2014 05:45:14 PM What with SWQ Thunder joining seniors in 2014, the spade work being done in Rockhampton and TFA from GC given the nod for 2015. No wonder SSF fees at one NPl club have risen from 300 to 765 and NPL juniors nearly doubled. What about the clubs losing money like Palm beach which incidentally is Manions club.
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So the CQ Energy are still around or what? -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:So the CQ Energy are still around or what?
-PB Yup, but by 2015 Gladstone and Mackay will enter. Toowoomba will enter next season, I'm not sure what TFA is, they're entering in 2015 also? link dark Edited by iridium1010: 1/1/2014 11:22:18 PM
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showmethemoney
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Where is the money for this going to come from teams are not paying players now.ffs
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Not from the eggball dominated community up here!
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krones3 wrote:showmethemoney
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Where is the money for this going to come from teams are not paying players now.ffs Its coming from the kids in seq whos regos have more than doubled to over $2000 in some cases.
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clivesundies wrote:krones3 wrote:showmethemoney
show methemoney
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Where is the money for this going to come from teams are not paying players now.ffs Its coming from the kids in seq whos regos have more than doubled to over $2000 in some cases. Here it is.
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clivesundies wrote:krones3 wrote:showmethemoney
show methemoney
show me themoney
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Where is the money for this going to come from teams are not paying players now.ffs Its coming from the kids in seq whos regos have more than doubled to over $2000 in some cases. Only 1 season after Mannion said at one of the consultation meetings that they would be maxed at 1K.
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dirkvanadidas wrote:clivesundies wrote:krones3 wrote:showmethemoney
show methemoney
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Where is the money for this going to come from teams are not paying players now.ffs Its coming from the kids in seq whos regos have more than doubled to over $2000 in some cases. Only 1 season after Mannion said at one of the consultation meetings that they would be maxed at 1K. I know your not surprised. We have gone backwards so fast i just hope the new Tech Director gets stuck into the clubs to up there game.
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How is all this sustainable?
If more and more clubs lose money at all levels of the game, its hardly putting us on a solid footing for the future.
Expecting parents to continue to subsidise the senior grades to that extent is also not a recipe for success.
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Heart_fan wrote:How is all this sustainable?
If more and more clubs lose money at all levels of the game, its hardly putting us on a solid footing for the future.
Expecting parents to continue to subsidise the senior grades to that extent is also not a recipe for success. Exactly. also where are the quality players coming from.at the moment there are just not enough good local players for a good comp. So the good players will migrate to the wealthy clubs. Edited by krones3: 2/1/2014 10:26:23 PM
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krones3 wrote:Exactly. also where are the quality players coming from.at the moment there are just not enough good local players for a good comp. So the good players will migrate to the wealthy clubs.
Take SWQ Thunder, last season the Towoomba senior came last in Brisbane div 2 , that's the 3rd tier of Brisbane comp. Now they are in NPL. ROFL.
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dirkvanadidas wrote:krones3 wrote:Exactly. also where are the quality players coming from.at the moment there are just not enough good local players for a good comp. So the good players will migrate to the wealthy clubs.
Take SWQ Thunder, last season the Towoomba senior came last in Brisbane div 2 , that's the 3rd tier of Brisbane comp. Now they are in NPL. ROFL. This. Let's just take/make clubs depending on bids and not actual decent player pathways and coaching options. -PB
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Queensland state leagues have a history of being problematic to say the least.
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W-League to play U15s rofl?! Horny lads won't know what him em. -PB
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Any truth to a Malaysian team playing in the NPL. As well?
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paulbagzFC wrote:W-League to play U15s rofl?!
Horny lads won't know what him em.
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Sounds like Strikers have closed up shop and Roar are taking their place? -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Sounds like Strikers have closed up shop and Roar are taking their place?
-PB is this what you mean The Brisbane Strikers wish to announce that we have found it necessary to close the Strikers Sports and Community Club premises at Meakin Park. This was unavoidable and due to financial reasons. While we have taken this action with regret, we wish to clarify that Meakin Park will remain an important base for our National Premier League boys junior and youth teams, who will continue to use its football grounds as their training venue. The 2014 NPL season will also see an exciting development for this club’s players and supporters alike as we stage all NPL boys home matches, as well as selected home matches of the Souths Strikers girls and women’s teams, at Perry Park where the NPL senior team will also, of course, continue playing its home games. Further details will be provided in due course.
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Quote:[size=8]Juniors go Down Under for Asiad preparation [/size]
PETALING JAYA: Harimau Muda A coach Datuk Ong Kim Swee will leave for Australia on Monday to finalise the team’s participation in the Queensland State League.
The former international said he has yet to decide where the team will be based when they compete in Australia’s second tier football league in March.
Youth and Sports Minister Khairy Jamaluddin revealed last Saturday that the ministry will contribute RM2mil to fund the stint in Australia, which will serve as the team’s preparation for the Incheon Asian Games in September.
“I need to thank the minister and the National Sports Council (NSC) for supporting our programme in Australia,” said Kim Swee on Sunday.
“We will be playing competitive league matches and I believe it will give the players a valuable experience ahead of the Asiad.
“We have the option of picking either Brisbane or Gold Coast as our base ... I will survey the facilities in both places before making a decision.”
Last year, the Harimau Muda A squad were based in Slovakia for eight months as a part of their preparation for the Myanmar SEA Games.
The team failed to retain the gold medal in the biennial Games, finishing fourth after losing to Singapore in the bronze-medal playoff.
Kim Swee stressed that the team’s playing stint in the Queensland State League is vital for the newcomers in the team as he has released nine players from the previous squad.
The 43-year-old Kim Swee said that the national Under-23 team’s lack of depth was obvious in the Myanmar SEA Games when the back-up players failed to fill the void left by injured regulars.
“The stint in Australia will be a good opportunity for the newcomers to step up and claim their spots in the Asian Games squad,” said Kim Swee.
http://www.thestar.com.my/Sport/Football/2014/01/12/Juniors-go-Down-Under-for-Asiad-preparation/
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aussieshorter wrote:Quote:[size=8]Juniors go Down Under for Asiad preparation [/size]
PETALING JAYA: Harimau Muda A coach Datuk Ong Kim Swee will leave for Australia on Monday to finalise the team’s participation in the Queensland State League.
The former international said he has yet to decide where the team will be based when they compete in Australia’s second tier football league in March.
Youth and Sports Minister Khairy Jamaluddin revealed last Saturday that the ministry will contribute RM2mil to fund the stint in Australia, which will serve as the team’s preparation for the Incheon Asian Games in September.
“I need to thank the minister and the National Sports Council (NSC) for supporting our programme in Australia,” said Kim Swee on Sunday.
“We will be playing competitive league matches and I believe it will give the players a valuable experience ahead of the Asiad.
“We have the option of picking either Brisbane or Gold Coast as our base ... I will survey the facilities in both places before making a decision.”
Last year, the Harimau Muda A squad were based in Slovakia for eight months as a part of their preparation for the Myanmar SEA Games.
The team failed to retain the gold medal in the biennial Games, finishing fourth after losing to Singapore in the bronze-medal playoff.
Kim Swee stressed that the team’s playing stint in the Queensland State League is vital for the newcomers in the team as he has released nine players from the previous squad.
The 43-year-old Kim Swee said that the national Under-23 team’s lack of depth was obvious in the Myanmar SEA Games when the back-up players failed to fill the void left by injured regulars.
“The stint in Australia will be a good opportunity for the newcomers to step up and claim their spots in the Asian Games squad,” said Kim Swee.
http://www.thestar.com.my/Sport/Football/2014/01/12/Juniors-go-Down-Under-for-Asiad-preparation/ Wow I suggested that the ffa should do the exact same thing by purchasing a club in Europe to help our young players out. As i remember it met with a high degree of criticism from the forum. Just goes to show that at least Malaysia can think outside the square.FFS ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
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