Yeah they were cut because CQ as a team were poorly setup from the get go.

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The region has set up fb groups etc calling for their reestablishment.

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Will have to be a massive change in mindset in the region for another CQ entity to enter NPL.

$$$ will always be an issue and no one seems to want to put politics aside to ensure a successful venture for the region.
Frenchville FC would be ideal to take it on but not sure how that would effect their junior program if they had to withdraw from the local comp, as currently required.

It sounded like CQFC just didn't have the support of the local clubs, so any new NPL club would have to do a lot of work getting them on board.

If it were to be one of the existing local clubs, you might have a similar issue in that there are rivalries already ingrained which would stop other clubs from supporting them.

20:00 Redlands United v Olympic FC Markets (15)
Redlands United 1.50   Draw 4.50   Olympic FC 4.50
Saturday 02/04/2016
19:00 Brisbane Strikers v South West Queensland Markets (15)
Brisbane Strikers 1.57   Draw 4.50   South West Queensland 4.00
19:30 Far North Queensland v Northern Fury Markets (14)
Far North Queensland 1.20   Draw 6.00   Northern Fury 8.00
20:00 Western Pride FC v Brisbane City Markets (15)
Western Pride FC 2.88   Draw 4.50   Brisbane City 1.83
Sunday 03/04/2016
14:00 Gold Coast City v Moreton Bay United Markets (15)
Gold Coast City 2.40   Draw 4.20   Moreton Bay United 2.20
14:00 Sunshine Coast Fire v Brisbane Roar Youth Markets (15)
Sunshine Coast Fire 2.88   Draw 4.00   Brisbane Roar Youth 1.91

How about Clinton ?

Not sure if Clinton would would have the $$$ and their home ground isn't available until the end of cricket season.

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Hey guys,

I just finished listening to the daily football show's expansion episode of Ipswich.

I have never taken much notice to the QLD competition but after being interested from the posible ipswich expansion idea i started taking a look further into the Qld conference.

I remember from last year a team called Lions fc playing some good football and beating croyden kings at there home ground so i started looking them up to see how they are going in the QLD Npl to which i noticed they are not there.

So i looked them up and they are playing in the Brisbane premier league which is made up of teams through out the brisbane area i also noticed that it says there is no direct promotion to the qld npl.

My question is why is there no direct promotion to the qld npl? What incentive do teams have playing in the bpl?

bring back Garethe edds to the fury senior coaching position

There's no simple answer to this question. But something that those outside of Qld often don't understand is that the Brisbane Premier League is about the same quality as the NPL.

Prior to the QLD NPL, there was the Queensland State League, which had some of the same clubs, but was apparently not run well at all. Clubs were losing money and if the NPL didn't come in, it probably would have been canned. So when the NPL started, Brisbane based clubs were skeptical, and some of the best clubs chose not to enter. The NPL clubs were given 5 years before any promotion or relegation would come in, and we're in the fourth year now.

Lions FC was one of the strong clubs that chose not to enter, along with the likes of Peninsula Power and Rochdale Rovers.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing what happens after the first five years, and whether Football Queensland open it up to new entrants. Promotion and relegation would be difficult, given how spread out the State is. E.g. if the Townsville team is relegated, are they replaced by another team in the region, or is the State League lost to that region?

And to go back to your original point about Lions FC, that would be rather interesting if they were given an A-League license, seeing as it was that club that originally started Queensland Roar. So you'd essentially have two A-League clubs that have the same origin.

Lions certainly have the facilities and backing to be strong at NPL level, and would be one of my choices for a National 2nd Division club. But if you want an Ipswich based A-League club I think you need to actually go to Ipswich (Western Pride is the NPL club based in Ipswich).

Re-reading that, it's a bit of a rambled response. I find the Queensland football structure to be a very interesting topic though.

I think Queensland is in a unique position for regional expansion. They have stadia and clubs. Get around it FFA.

NPL is a wank We ended up with a team we did not want a academe with people running it we did not want and a coach we did not want and now we are stuck with it. the people in the zone have no say on the make up of their NPL team in townsville.

Let townsville clubs put their own team together not Fury.

To play devils advocate, who is the 'we' you speak of? Someone was always going to miss out and someone would always be unhappy.

One problem I see with the Queensland NPL and the desire to include regional teams, is that they become almost a representative side. This has also happened in Brisbane, with teams selected to cover a certain catchment area.

That's fine if it's a pure development league, but it's supposed to be the 2nd tier of football in Australia, and in other States that means the best clubs based on performance. In Queensland it just means the club was the one selected by Football Queensland to represent their area.

So how do you now connect the NPL to the leagues below (like the Brisbane Premier League)? It worries me that we'll never see a proper football pyramid in Queensland where the best play the best, and any club has the ability to reach those heights.

We are "the football community in townsville" grass roots has no say it what or who represent us.

NPL Queensland standings after Round 10:
1 Far North Queensland Heat FC 10 8 1 1 21 7 14 25
2 Redlands United FC 10 7 0 3 18 10 8 21
3 Brisbane Strikers FC 10 6 2 2 24 8 16 20
4 Brisbane City FC 10 6 1 3 17 15 2 19
5 Gold Coast City FC 10 4 5 1 24 13 11 17
6 Moreton Bay United FC 10 4 3 3 17 13 4 15
7 Brisbane Roar FC Youth 10 3 3 4 16 12 4 12
8 Western Pride FC 10 3 2 5 18 21 -3 11
9 Sunshine Coast Fire FC 10 3 2 5 10 16 -6 11
10 South West Queensland Thunder FC 10 3 1 6 14 27 -13 10
11 Olympic FC 10 3 0 7 15 27 -12 9
12 Northern Fury FC 10 0 0 10 9 34 -25 0

Round 11:
Saturday May 21st 4.00pm South West Queensland Thunder v Far North Queensland Heat
Saturday May 21st 6.30pm Brisbane City v Brisbane Strikers
Saturday May 21st 7.30pm Northern Fury v Moreton Bay United
Sunday May 22nd 5.00pm Gold Coast City v Sunshine Coast Fire
Sunday May 22nd 7.00pm Western Pride v Olympic
TBC Brisbane Roar Youth v Redlands United

What do you guys think the structure of football needs to be in Queensland? Ignoring the actual teams for the sake of this argument, how should the divisions/tiers be organised and linked together?

I've spent a fair bit of time looking at other States, and it's obvious that Queensland is very different. Distance is obviously the big factor, but I think the Qld NPL has also been set up as a development league much more than other states. At least in the sense that the best clubs are not necessarily playing in it, and the clubs are based solely on geography (and no way for other clubs to enter the NPL - at least for now).

And considering all the talk of a National 2nd Division, I can't help but think that should it be introduced, it will need to be underpinned by the State NPLs, which should include a pro/rel link that gives state-based clubs the chance to get into the National NPL. At the moment the Queensland structure is not compatible with that model.

If memory serves, the QLD NPL clubs were guaranteed five years with no pro/rel. We're in the 4th year now, so what should happen when the five years are up?

It's interesting in the sense that the same problems that people seem to have with the A-League are very similar to the current structure of the QLD NPL.

Definitely need a national second division. I still feel there must be promotion in and out of NPLQ. Having a team last with no points every season can't go on and we are seeing strong brissy teams in the waiting.

On the plus side it is fantastic sight seeing Cairns killing it.

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I reckon promotion/relegation solves a lot of the problems. Why not something like this?

Alternative 1


NPL QLD remains state wide, but pro/rel means it will be weighted towards the best quality teams (best vs best). If it ends up mostly/entirely SEQ-based, so be it. As long as there is an available pathway for regional teams to get promoted it remains fair.

An end of season playoff process between the winners of each of the leagues underpinning the NPL (2 from SEQ to make it an even 8) determines the clubs promoted. Could be one automatic and one to play off against 2nd last in NPL. The off-field criteria to play in the NPL should be known at the start of the season, so it's not only based on results (but clubs will know where they stand).

A South East Qld league underneath the NPL would condense the next best clubs, before splitting into the respective zones.

The whole idea being that it's a funnel that pushes the best to the top, while leaving it open for ANY Queensland club to make that level. Most levels of this system already exist, and it'd just be a matter of linking them with the post-season playoffs. The only new competition is the SEQ League.

Alternative 2


One of my issues with the first option is that if a regional team is relegated (e.g. Northern Fury), they will struggle to gain promotion again in an 8 team playoff (assuming they win their local league).

This alternative goes a similar path to other States and creates a NPL2 league that is also State wide, creating a bit of a safety net, while still condensing the best clubs.

The first problem that will be brought up with this is that it creates even more travel. But would it really? In a promotion/relegation system, how many regional clubs outside the current NPL clubs would make it to this level? I think instead of creating more travel, you'd actually have the same amount spread amongst more clubs. The only way additional travel is required is if a regional club is able to get past the best of the SEQ teams, plus the end of season playoffs. I think you'd end up with two SEQ leagues, but with one or two strong regional clubs added (and they have to remain strong to justify their place, or get relegated).

All levels of this structure currently exist except for the NPL2, and just need to be linked together through pro/rel. Again, it funnels the best to the top while giving all regions in Queensland an opportunity to be involved.

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So north Queensland could put together an all stars team, made up of players who play for different clubs but come together for NPL to face and maybe beat the fury and then represent the region ? under your system

Not sure I understand what you're saying, but I think you're misinterpreting.

I'd be leaning towards the 2nd alternative that I suggested, but simplistically both are simply adding promotion and relegation to the existing set up. So it becomes less about clubs representing a geographic catchment, and more about the best and most ambitious clubs reaching the top of the pyramid.

When you say 'North Queensland put together an all stars team, made up of players who play for different clubs' - no, it's the same as it is now. A player can't play for more than one club. An NPL team isn't a representative side for their catchment, they are just another club who is playing at a higher level in the pyramid. If a North Queensland clubs does some great recruiting and brings all the best players together, wins their local league and then wins the promotion playoffs at the end of the season, then they are added to the NPL. Who they replace would depend on who finished last in the NPL. If that's not Northern Fury, then they would both be in there the following season.

Similarly, if Northern Fury are relegated they are replaced by whoever wins the playoffs, which may be a Brisbane or Gold Coast club. You could have the situation where there is no North Queensland team if they are not performing. Which is why I like alternative 2 - it adds a small buffer for regional clubs so they don't automatically get sent back to their local leagues and continue to play at a state-wide level

like many football fans in australia i have no club to follow. might as well follow the cowboys.

Here is why your proposal wont work for townsville.
No one likes the fury as a matter of fact they are hated. Only 20ppl not involved with the club go to games. If you promote a local side then no one will go and watch them either. You need to have a team that people in townsville want to go and watch. That's why it has to be a representative side v the fury for the right to play in the NPL. you will get lots of haters turn up just to see fury humiliated.
Is there any point to having a game at this level and only 20 people turn up?

Why does it have to be a representative side? Why can't it be one of the other local sides vs the Fury? Which is exactly what my suggestion does - it gives any club the chance to build a team and fight for promotion.

It sounds like (for you at least) it's not about having a team that you can support. It's about seeing the Fury fail. If that's all it is, go and support one of the teams in the local premier league...