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2013/14 Membership Sales Adelaide -6,144 Brisbane - 7,000 Central Coast - 5,448 Heart - 6627 Newcastle - 10,000 Perth - 5,000 Sydney - 10,381 Victory - 21,005 Wellington - 3,500 West Sydney - 16,100 Total memberships sold - 91,205 http://membership.mhfc.com.au/http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/sydneyfchttp://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbournevictoryhttp://adelaidereds.com.au/default.aspxhttps://twitter.com/PGFC_CEO/
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I was pretty cynical the Jerks would get 9k let alone 10k, pretty good effort. Shame the success in support is being rewarded with going on 3 years of shite football
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tbitm or any other Heart fans know what their club's Membership record is? Or is their current total, presently at 6641, already a new high? Either way, they can't be too far from passing their own record, if they haven't already ofcourse. 7k would be a great milestone for the club! patjennings wrote:Tambo wrote:Great for jets considering a poor start... Just tweeted victory and Perth to get an update: Victory replied straight away saying an official announcement is coming soon... Should be 22k! Perth hopefully will reply... You'd think they should have a big jump considering their first home game was last week, and sydney this week after a first up home win. Not to mention, big willy's signing! I reckon they would be 5.5k easy by now but we will wait and see...
I'm sure mariners have passed 5.5k by now also... Hasn't been updated in weeks and a good start to the season Haven't seen anything in writing but at the post-match function after round 1 Peter Turnbull said memberships were over 5,500. lol tbh it only requires/required another 50 sign ups, 52 to be exact, to reach that mark. :p They 'could' be, if anything, closer to 5,600? :p With Glory - they MAY see more members, but will we hear about it?! We were lucky just to hear we hit 5k! ](*,) And :cool: about Victory! BTW Tambo have you messaged/tweeted Roar? Roar 'apparently' have 7k members, but with their '$10kfor10k' scheme, they have yet to actually announce it (on ANY of their Social Media platforms), along with the winner of the next thousand dollars? So would be keen to hear feedback on that. Edited by gloryperth: 1/11/2013 03:19:14 AM
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Tambo
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lol tbh it only requires/required another 50 sign ups, 52 to be exact, to reach that mark. :p
They 'could' be, if anything, closer to 5,600? :p
With Glory - they MAY see more members, but will we hear about it?! We were lucky just to hear we hit 5k! ](*,)
And :cool: about Victory!
BTW Tambo have you messaged/tweeted Roar? Roar 'apparently' have 7k members, but with their '$10kfor10k' scheme, they have yet to actually announce it (on ANY of their Social Media platforms), along with the winner of the next thousand dollars? So would be keen to hear feedback on that.
Edited by gloryperth: 1/11/2013 03:19:14 AM[/quote]
Na never tweeted roar but I think someone said it was from A club email?
Ye the only reason I said 5.5k for mariners was because they were updating every 30 members or so at one stage and then stopped, and you'd think that 5.5k would be a big milestone for them (10% over their target) so surprised we haven't heard anything.
Yeah neither Perth nor the CEO responded to my tweet... Poor by them. Even buttered them up by saying that their first home crowd was great haha. I would imagine Perth would be close to 6k at least by now.... The 5k was anounced a couple of weeks before their first home game, you saw that in that time heart went up a few hundred in one week, Perth's first home game was round 3. Add to that the signing of gallas and exposure that would create. And on top of that, the impressive atmosphere first up by Perth and a win.
Think someone posted that around 6.5-7k was hearts record membership which included 3 game passes. And that 5.5k was their record of full memberships. But just going off memory here.... Anyone confirm? Either way I'm pretty sure they are on record numbers....
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jparraga wrote:I was pretty cynical the Jerks would get 9k let alone 10k, pretty good effort. Shame the success in support is being rewarded with going on 3 years of shite football
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Midfielder
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Are the PG memberships a state secret ..
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well done us:) I thought we'd peak at around 5k.
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Joffa
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2013/14 Membership Sales Adelaide -6,144 Brisbane - 7,000 Central Coast - 5,448 Heart - 6665 Newcastle - 10,000 Perth - 5,000 Sydney - 10,381 Victory - 21,005 Wellington - 3,500 West Sydney - 16,100 Total memberships sold - 91,243 http://membership.mhfc.com.au/http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/sydneyfchttp://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbournevictoryhttp://adelaidereds.com.au/default.aspxhttps://twitter.com/PGFC_CEO/
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GloryPerth
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MrBrisbane wrote:Tambo wrote:me wrote:lol tbh it only requires/required another 50 sign ups, 52 to be exact, to reach that mark. :p
They 'could' be, if anything, closer to 5,600? :p
With Glory - they MAY see more members, but will we hear about it?! We were lucky just to hear we hit 5k! ](*,)
And :cool: about Victory!
BTW Tambo have you messaged/tweeted Roar? Roar 'apparently' have 7k members, but with their '$10kfor10k' scheme, they have yet to actually announce it (on ANY of their Social Media platforms), along with the winner of the next thousand dollars? So would be keen to hear feedback on that.
Edited by gloryperth: 1/11/2013 03:19:14 AM Na never tweeted roar but I think someone said it was from A club email? Ye the only reason I said 5.5k for mariners was because they were updating every 30 members or so at one stage and then stopped, and you'd think that 5.5k would be a big milestone for them (10% over their target) so surprised we haven't heard anything. Yeah neither Perth nor the CEO responded to my tweet... Poor by them. Even buttered them up by saying that their first home crowd was great haha. I would imagine Perth would be close to 6k at least by now.... The 5k was anounced a couple of weeks before their first home game, you saw that in that time heart went up a few hundred in one week, Perth's first home game was round 3. Add to that the signing of gallas and exposure that would create. And on top of that, the impressive atmosphere first up by Perth and a win. Think someone posted that around 6.5-7k was hearts record membership which included 3 game passes. And that 5.5k was their record of full memberships. But just going off memory here.... Anyone confirm? Either way I'm pretty sure they are on record numbers.... Ive got the members email, dont trust me GloryPerth :D, all good. Edited by MrBrisbane: 4/11/2013 12:28:01 AM lol... Odd, seems it was a while ago, since they notified members such as yourself about hitting the 7k milestone? Maybe I'm being impatient or something, but there's a pattern emerging here and I don't mean to negatively speculate, but a) I hope their lack of announcing is not thus, and they WILL announce on FB and/or Twitter soon and if not... b) I hope they aren't forgetting (Due to season being underway now) c) they aren't announcing due to troubles over their 'always going to be ambitious' '$10kfor10k' initiative. I only suggest the latter as this isn't the first time - Roar on hitting 5 or 6k took a while to announce it and when they did they did NOT announce the winner of the $1k, unlike when they hit the previous milestones (I hit them up on this too, messaged them on FB, but no reply!). Now this time, they apparently hit 7k a while ago, atleast a week ago? Yet, no announcement on any of their official websites, via Social Media or otherwise and hence, no accompanying announcement on who was the next lucky recipient of $1k... I hope there isn't anything of that nature behind this - but I really hope they can continue to announce these milestones on social media with as much fanfare and accompanying prize winner announcement, as they did earlier. It was a fantastic, if bold initiative, and every announcement is not only a credit to Roar, but also an indicator of the great success of the initiative. Roar's initiative always had an ambitious target and now they are 'officially'/'apparently' 70% of the way there. That means they still have potentially 3-4 separate instalments of $1k to give away. I hope they didn't presume they wouldn't make it, because at this rate their 'initiative' could be such a success that they could well hit closer to that 10k mark than anyone, including the greatest optimists, would've expected! :shock: :cool: :o Edited by gloryperth: 5/11/2013 02:11:52 AM
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Victory now 21,394 Not posting this in the MV membership thread because I'm mainly interested in figures up until the season starts
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Tambo
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bluebird wrote:Victory now 21,394
Not posting this in the MV membership thread because I'm mainly interested in figures up until the season starts
That's dissapointing, given the fact that they said they had an announcement coming... Would have hoped for 22k. Where did you get this info from? Victory website? (I'm on my I phone so can't see the membership counter) Edited by Tambo: 5/11/2013 06:28:58 PM
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Tambo wrote:bluebird wrote:Victory now 21,394
Not posting this in the MV membership thread because I'm mainly interested in figures up until the season starts
That's dissapointing, given the fact that they said they had an announcement coming... Would have hoped for 22k. Where did you get this info from? Victory website? (I'm on my I phone so can't see the membership counter) Edited by Tambo: 5/11/2013 06:28:58 PM yep-counter
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2013/14 Membership Sales Adelaide -6,144 Brisbane - 7,000 Central Coast - 5,448 Heart - 6674 Newcastle - 10,000 Perth - 5,000 Sydney - 10,381 Victory - 21,394 Wellington - 3,500 West Sydney - 16,100 Total memberships sold - 91,641 http://membership.mhfc.com.au/http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/sydneyfchttp://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbournevictoryhttp://adelaidereds.com.au/default.aspxhttps://twitter.com/PGFC_CEO/
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Reminder for Roar fans: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151659038163536&set=a.10150668317428536.416694.78390538535&type=1 Most recent announcement/milestone (3rd Oct, Roar's Twitter): https://twitter.com/brisbaneroar/status/386010638662660097/photo/1 A full month on, with surely the seven thousandth 'assist' due to be announced. Edit: Hmmm the slight delay 'could' be in-part due to the fact that the club may now already be in new record territory? 7k members would be smashing the old club record and they may wish to make a bigger announcement across the board about that? :-k FTR I was wrong about before and am glad of it - with the two most recent milestones the winners of the $1k WERE announced, just the most recent one was via Twitter only, rather than FB like those previous. ;) Edited by gloryperth: 6/11/2013 05:12:33 PM
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Looks like the number will be in the mid 90's .... when PG, Roar finally up date say another 1, 500 and what others may bring ...
That is a real achievement especially the Jets .... holding their numbers while wooden spoon holders and a poor start to the season in a regional area...
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Midfielder wrote:Looks like the number will be in the mid 90's .... when PG, Roar finally up date say another 1, 500 and what others may bring ...
That is a real achievement especially the Jets .... holding their numbers while wooden spoon holders and a poor start to the season in a regional area... After having been to a few games at the Hunter, its apparent that Jets fans aren't fair weather fans. They still turn up even to watch shyte
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Joffa
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2013/14 Membership Sales Adelaide -6,144 Brisbane - 7,000 Central Coast - 5,448 Heart - 6686 Newcastle - 10,000 Perth - 5,000 Sydney - 10,438 Victory - 21,394 Wellington - 3,500 West Sydney - 16,100 Total memberships sold - 91,710 http://membership.mhfc.com.au/http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/sydneyfchttp://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbournevictoryhttp://adelaidereds.com.au/default.aspxhttps://twitter.com/PGFC_CEO/ Edited by Joffa: 8/11/2013 10:54:59 AM
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Tambo
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Joffa wrote:2013/14 Membership Sales Adelaide -6,144 Brisbane - 7,000 Central Coast - 5,448 Heart - 6686 Newcastle - 10,000 Perth - 5,000 Sydney - 10,438 Victory - 21,394 Wellington - 3,500 West Sydney - 16,100 Total memberships sold - 91,710 http://membership.mhfc.com.au/http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/sydneyfchttp://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbournevictoryhttp://adelaidereds.com.au/default.aspxhttps://twitter.com/PGFC_CEO/ Edited by Joffa: 8/11/2013 10:54:59 AM I think the jump in Sydney's memberships may be because they are now selling 3 game passes... if it jumps any further I would say this is the case, as i can't imagine a few hundred more members jumping on board after 2 home games and a bad start... If it continues to increase maybe we should revert back to 10,400 ish? Otherwise it may distort the figures substantially. Just an idea
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GloryPerth
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Why not count the 3-game passes?! Heck, other codes include Pet Memberships and distort with all sorts of bulldust. We AREN'T including those or the junior passes either, but these 3, 5, 7-game or whatever amounts game passes, they're a committment to a certain number of games, minimum three, which CAN be as many games as some members may actually attend, including the more limited memberships or those from the country, inter-state or what not?
I guess I can understand arguments against, kind of (You may have to explain), but it's all good as far as I can see and those folks are more committed/pre-committed than those casual walk-ups who one can not tell will attend more than one game in the season or not?!
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Tambo
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GloryPerth wrote:Why not count the 3-game passes?! Heck, other codes include Pet Memberships and distort with all sorts of bulldust. We AREN'T including those or the junior passes either, but these 3, 5, 7-game or whatever amounts game passes, they're a committment to a certain number of games, minimum three, which CAN be as many games as some members may actually attend, including the more limited memberships or those from the country, inter-state or what not?
I guess I can understand arguments against, kind of (You may have to explain), but it's all good as far as I can see and those folks are more committed/pre-committed than those casual walk-ups who one can not tell will attend more than one game in the season or not?! My argument is, if this season sydney get 10,500 full members and 500 flexi passes =11,000. Next year if they get 9,000 members plus 2,500 flexi's. we would count that as an improvement when in truth it isn't. It would be ideal to have both figures seperate but I know clubs won't be that specific...
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The AFL and it's clubs include all types of membership including pet memberships in their aggregate numbers and they don't break it down either
This approach has enabled the AFL to lobby much harder for infrastructure with hundreds of thousands of partial/non match memberships So, although it would be great to have the break down, the only way to compare things is on final figures come MD1-year on year and also final totals year on year
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Tambo wrote:GloryPerth wrote:Why not count the 3-game passes?! Heck, other codes include Pet Memberships and distort with all sorts of bulldust. We AREN'T including those or the junior passes either, but these 3, 5, 7-game or whatever amounts game passes, they're a committment to a certain number of games, minimum three, which CAN be as many games as some members may actually attend, including the more limited memberships or those from the country, inter-state or what not?
I guess I can understand arguments against, kind of (You may have to explain), but it's all good as far as I can see and those folks are more committed/pre-committed than those casual walk-ups who one can not tell will attend more than one game in the season or not?! My argument is, if this season sydney get 10,500 full members and 500 flexi passes =11,000. Next year if they get 9,000 members plus 2,500 flexi's. we would count that as an improvement when in truth it isn't. It would be ideal to have both figures seperate but I know clubs won't be that specific... If you wanted to twist the number to look favorably, in the case of SFC you could say we have over 18500 fans because you can include kids. We would be well over 20k if you include 3 game pass holders. That is actually amazing numbers, that would put us just behind the Swans, bulldogs and rabbitohs as Sydneys' largest clubs =d>
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GloryPerth wrote:Why not count the 3-game passes?! Heck, other codes include Pet Memberships and distort with all sorts of bulldust. We AREN'T including those or the junior passes either, but these 3, 5, 7-game or whatever amounts game passes, they're a committment to a certain number of games, minimum three, which CAN be as many games as some members may actually attend, including the more limited memberships or those from the country, inter-state or what not? Yeah the fact pet memberships are counted has always given me the shits. Although do you reckon this kind of creative accounting could be used to crack the 100,000 member mark for the league? Would be great publicity.
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Hmm I'm not sure where I stand on the issue - You guys all bring up good points. I like how kind of 'hard core' or more, 'real' our clubs tend to be with their figures at the moment, even to the extent of being 'politically naive' clout wise, as Girtx suggested.
But as 4Wanderer4 suggested that example just reflects the dichotomy of the scenario in a way. 18-20k SFC 'members' sounds and is 'ludicrously' non-reflective or perhaps deceptive of their actual base which is more reflected with their 9-10k members now. But same time, SFC can and do often draw crowds and even an average, several thousand higher than that.
Actually I think we can settle on a middle ground here as we kind of have already - Junior memberships don't count, especially as clearly most juniors and, more, their family setups fail to take it up (I presume), so the 'success rate' of that 8k scheme may only be partial and in measurable terms, a fraction of that amount? Not to say it's a waste of time though and it's an initiative which could bear fruit, longer term?
But limited-game members for 3 games or more, still open to their inclusion as their numbers as even 'doubters' here, like Tambo, have discussed are still relative smaller scale, a smaller percentage of the total and same time, they are people who are ACTUALLY attending some games compared to the 8k juniors who we aren't sure how many of those are actually attending any, at all? And with Tambo's example, 500 out of 11k = only a relatively small fraction and even, indeed 2-3k out of a similar total, that doesn't seem too bad or even deceptive to me! Especially again as not all full members attend ALL the games, even though they have pre-paid for the full package if you like. Though I understand and even agree to a degree with the argument against, if the flexi-passes were making a greater percentage and also protraying a 'deceptive'/untrue' figure.
INFACT, now that I think of it - the old discussions about 'how low' the northern states previously were in their member figures, especially SFC and Roar, their figures would've had a boost, even then, given the amount of fans who signed up to multi-game packs back then. That reduced the discrepancy between the small base of full season, committed, members and the large amount of 'so-called' walk ups for those clubs, especially during the A-League's peak season for crowds and interest, season 3!
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SoccerLogic wrote:GloryPerth wrote:Why not count the 3-game passes?! Heck, other codes include Pet Memberships and distort with all sorts of bulldust. We AREN'T including those or the junior passes either, but these 3, 5, 7-game or whatever amounts game passes, they're a committment to a certain number of games, minimum three, which CAN be as many games as some members may actually attend, including the more limited memberships or those from the country, inter-state or what not? Yeah the fact pet memberships are counted has always given me the shits. Although do you reckon this kind of creative accounting could be used to crack the 100,000 member mark for the league? Would be great publicity. If we have SFC and Mariners juniors included in Joffas totals, we would already crack 100k.
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Burztur wrote:SoccerLogic wrote:GloryPerth wrote:Why not count the 3-game passes?! Heck, other codes include Pet Memberships and distort with all sorts of bulldust. We AREN'T including those or the junior passes either, but these 3, 5, 7-game or whatever amounts game passes, they're a committment to a certain number of games, minimum three, which CAN be as many games as some members may actually attend, including the more limited memberships or those from the country, inter-state or what not? Yeah the fact pet memberships are counted has always given me the shits. Although do you reckon this kind of creative accounting could be used to crack the 100,000 member mark for the league? Would be great publicity. If we have SFC and Mariners juniors included in Joffas totals, we would already crack 100k. Yes, but we should refuse to drop to GWS' level. 12k members my ass
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tbitm wrote:Burztur wrote:SoccerLogic wrote:GloryPerth wrote:Why not count the 3-game passes?! Heck, other codes include Pet Memberships and distort with all sorts of bulldust. We AREN'T including those or the junior passes either, but these 3, 5, 7-game or whatever amounts game passes, they're a committment to a certain number of games, minimum three, which CAN be as many games as some members may actually attend, including the more limited memberships or those from the country, inter-state or what not? Yeah the fact pet memberships are counted has always given me the shits. Although do you reckon this kind of creative accounting could be used to crack the 100,000 member mark for the league? Would be great publicity. If we have SFC and Mariners juniors included in Joffas totals, we would already crack 100k. Yes, but we should refuse to drop to GWS' level. 12k members my ass We could start offering $10 memberships to people in Wollongong to go an see our W-league girls and NYL guys and play a game or two down there a year, then by the same GWS logic we could probably double our membership. #GWSLogic
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