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Following today's news that the FFV is considering 38 applicants for the NPLV, does anyone have any inside knowledge as to who these clubs are? And which ones are the front runners? =2014&tx_ttnews[month]=01&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1753&cHash=1a0e994e15dfd25a168cfa95b07e52e6]FFV NPLV UpdateFFV / Article FFV receives 38 NPL applications 22.01.2014 Successful applicants to be announced on February 7. Football Federation Victoria (FFV) can confirm it has received 38 applications for the 2014 National Premier Leagues (NPL) of Victoria. Applications closed at 5pm on Monday January 20, with FFV’s assessment panel reviewing applications from today until Friday. FFV will reveal the successful applicants on February 7. =d> =d> :-({|= [-o<
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Will be interesting to see the final cut. Are clubs allowed to use their current names?
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Not sure what was finally agreed.
Probably something like this, plus regional clubs like Ballarat Red Devils and minus a few clubs.
NPLV
No Club Name
1 Bentleigh Greens
2 Dandenong Thunder
3 Green Gully
4 Hume City
5 Melbourne Knights
6 Northcote City
7 Oakleigh Cannons
8 Pascoe Vale
9 Port Melbourne Sharks
10 Heidelberg United
11 South Melbourne
12 Werribee City
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No Club Name
1 Altona Magic
2 Box Hill United
3 Eastern Lions SC
4 Fawkner Blues
5 FC Bulleen Lions
6 Heidelberg United
7 North Geelong Warriors
8 Sunshine George Cross
9 St Albans Saints
10 Werribee City
11 Western Suburbs
12 Moreland Zebras
13 Richmond SC
14 Southern Stars
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Benjamin
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Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.
It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on).
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The 60+ clubs were behind two regional clubs at each level.
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NPLV bid back on the table
SOCCER
NPLV
By samuel darroch
THE Gippsland Soccer League is poised to submit a non-binding expression of interest to establish a franchise in the National Premier Leagues Victoria competition this year, following two emergency meetings at Latrobe City Sports Stadium last month.
The move comes after Football Federation Victoria called for a new round of EOIs since deciding to forge ahead with the NPLV in 2014, despite a drawn out legal battle which held up planning and execution of the new league.
GSL member clubs voted to tentatively pursue a licence after attending an information session detailing changes to the original NPLV structure - forced by a Supreme Court battle between FFV and dissenting co-signatory clubs over the model's implementation - and a question and answer evening with FFV chair Nick Monteleone in December.
The GSL elected not to submit an application under the initial NPL model last year, but relaxations to the entry criteria reignited local interest in the scheme, which is set to act as a nationally consistent second tier of football behind the A-League.
Total franchise costs, estimated to be about $500,000 under the previous framework, could be reduced by up to half under the revisal, which includes a $40,000 plus GST licence fee.
Strict coaching accreditation requirements have also been reduced.
Other changes include a $2000 cap on junior registration fees and the adoption of a player points system which encourages the promotion of local talent.
Successful applicants will still be required to field eight teams - under 12s, 13s, 14s, 15s, 16s, 18s, 20s and seniors - in season one, with under 17s, women's and girl's sides all to be included in 2015.
Despite the overhaul, the GSL's primary concerns remain unchanged.
If successful, the GSL would face a logistical labyrinth to secure funds, and the required quality and quantity of players, in addition to establishing a separate administrative board to oversee the franchise, all within months of the proposed 7 February announcement of licenses.
"Do we have the time to put together a proper setup? It's a big organisation to get set up in a month or two months," GSL vice chair Peter Boyes said.
"The hardest thing there is how we go about getting more people who are interested, people who want to be involved."
The GSL, if offered a licence, has the option to forward it on to another entity or amalgamation of existing clubs, which could alleviate strain on developing a new panel.
However individual clubs face the same challenge to juggle their community football needs.
"We need more people who are prepared to get on board with being involved with the running of it," Boyes said.
"The GSL can't run it as both - community football as well as the high end," Boyes said.
Costing looms as another roadblock, with player fees, corporate sponsorship, fundraising efforts and syndicates all on the table as options.
"If we go ahead with it and put in an actual application we're going to have to start off with pretty much the bare bones minimum in terms of being able to fund it," Boyes said.
"Because of that short time frame it makes it really difficult."
With successful applicants bound to the competition for a minimum of three years before the introduction of a promotion/relegation system with FFV state leagues, a prominent school of thought from GSL clubs was to hold off an application in order to build a foundation in preparation for a tilt at the NPLV in 2017.
However, Boyes believed it was now or never for Gippsland.
"The reality of it is once these licenses to clubs are given out you're going to find it very difficult to get another crack at it," he said.
"Personally I don't believe that we're going to get this opportunity again, if we don't go with it this time I think that's it.
"It's too easy to say 'it's all too hard we're not going to bother', the reality is it's probably the best opportunity we'll ever have, and have ever had."
Local clubs were also concerned about losing players and significantly reducing the quality of play within the local GSL competition, but Boyes believes access to premier competition would provide long term gains.
"Those players when they come back to their clubs will be better players for it and the experience they bring with them will be beneficial there," he said.
"You've got to be fair to the player, at the end of the day players who are good enough to get somewhere have got to be encouraged to do so."
With many talented local players currently forced to travel to Melbourne for top level competition, Boyes said an NPLV side could offer much needed access to premier football within Gippsland.
"The reason they're doing that is to get that better competition and it would be fantastic if we could provide it here in Gippsland," he said.
"It's important that they're playing really good competition every week... there's no doubt that we've got talent and if we can nurture that and provide a pathway for them I think we can see a lot more Johnny Hutchinsons and people like that coming through Gippsland and getting somewhere."
Boyes said the strength of a Gippsland bid would be its facilities, in particular Latrobe City Sports Stadium, and a depth of junior talent.
He acknowledged the seniors would likely struggle at the outset, but believed bringing youth through the ranks would lead to a brighter future.
"We will face a battle especially in the early days. It will take time but the fact we have three years guaranteed gives us time to improve on that," he said.
"You can't come into a competition that is such a high lift in standard and overnight expect to be on top."
Boyes said the league required further information before committing to the scheme, with a final meeting slated for 13 January ahead of a 20 January deadline, and required whole-hearted support from the Gippsland soccer community.
"The clubs have got to support it; if the clubs don't support it then it's not worth doing," he said.
"It is going to be a big ask... (but) I'd rather go to bed at night thinking we gave it our best shot and it wasn't good enough rather than going 'what if'?"
The GSL is eligible to apply for a license as a "regional entity".
Anyone interested in being involved with the Gippsland NPLV bid in any capacity should phone the GSL office on 5134 8888.
http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/story/2006775/nplv-bid-back-on-the-table/?cs=1588
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The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier.
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Benjamin wrote:The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier. How are they not in the same boat as current VPL clubs also not knowing if they'll be in the top NPL tier or not, given that all parties' platforms agree on a minimum of two regional clubs per division? Logic would dictate that Ballarat Red Devils and Geelong Galaxy are the two regional teams to get the nod for the top tier being the best representatives of the two biggest non-metro population centres and having apparently adequate bids. It's been amply reported that Ballarat have already signed ex Victory (and Perth Glory, NQ Fury, Marconi and Dandenong) player James Robinson as coach and was quoted in a Courier article on here as recruiting with the NPL in mind. Would that put them so far behind the mark as VPL clubs? Players will be taking a punt on Sunshine Georgies or Bentleigh Greens, but they can be more confident that they'll get top level NPL with Ballarat or Geelong. It's an hour by car for the players FFS, as if they don't already travel as long inside Melbourne's 1950's infrastructure for games. Will you be disappointed if they don't get relegated?
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paladisious wrote:Benjamin wrote:The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier. How are they not in the same boat as current VPL clubs also not knowing if they'll be in the top NPL tier or not, given that all parties' platforms agree on a minimum of two regional clubs per division? Logic would dictate that Ballarat Red Devils and Geelong Galaxy are the two regional teams to get the nod for the top tier being the best representatives of the two biggest non-metro population centres and having apparently adequate bids. It's been amply reported that Ballarat have already signed ex Victory (and Perth Glory, NQ Fury, Marconi and Dandenong) player James Robinson as coach and was quoted in a Courier article on here as recruiting with the NPL in mind. Would that put them so far behind the mark as VPL clubs? Players will be taking a punt on Sunshine Georgies or Bentleigh Greens, but they can be more confident that they'll get top level NPL with Ballarat or Geelong. It's an hour by car for the players FFS, as if they don't already travel as long inside Melbourne's 1950's infrastructure for games.Will you be disappointed if they don't get relegated? Couldn't have summed it up better! PS: I really hope Galaxy get in.
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paladisious wrote:Benjamin wrote:The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier. How are they not in the same boat as current VPL clubs also not knowing if they'll be in the top NPL tier or not, given that all parties' platforms agree on a minimum of two regional clubs per division? Logic would dictate that Ballarat Red Devils and Geelong Galaxy are the two regional teams to get the nod for the top tier being the best representatives of the two biggest non-metro population centres and having apparently adequate bids. It's been amply reported that Ballarat have already signed ex Victory (and Perth Glory, NQ Fury, Marconi and Dandenong) player James Robinson as coach and was quoted in a Courier article on here as recruiting with the NPL in mind. Would that put them so far behind the mark as VPL clubs? Players will be taking a punt on Sunshine Georgies or Bentleigh Greens, but they can be more confident that they'll get top level NPL with Ballarat or Geelong. It's an hour by car for the players FFS, as if they don't already travel as long inside Melbourne's 1950's infrastructure for games. Will you be disappointed if they don't get relegated? I have no beef with the regional sides - like the co-signatories I support the idea of a couple of regional sides... However, I'm of the opinion that delays in establishing the league have placed the regional sides at a disadvantage when it comes to recruiting. It's hard to recruit when you don't know what your budget is, and it's hard to establish a budget when you don't know what league you will be in. Ballarat have hired Robinson, yes - that's a single VPL standard player. Other than that I'm not sure who they've signed - I know who they haven't signed though - pretty much all of the identified talent that played in the VPL last year has now been signed up to one club or another. Last year's surviving VPL sides, plus the state 1 sides who earned promotion, are all pretty confident that they will be included in the first tier - and they are recruiting appropriately. With regard to relegation - there's 4-5 clubs I have friends at, I hope they don't get relegated - other than that I don't care who goes down. This isn't about wishing failure on anyone - rather about wishing things had been set up earlier, and clearer, in order to give all clubs as even a playing field as possible.
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Fair enough. Nothing to do but wait now I guess.
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Benjamin wrote:paladisious wrote:Benjamin wrote:The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier. How are they not in the same boat as current VPL clubs also not knowing if they'll be in the top NPL tier or not, given that all parties' platforms agree on a minimum of two regional clubs per division? Logic would dictate that Ballarat Red Devils and Geelong Galaxy are the two regional teams to get the nod for the top tier being the best representatives of the two biggest non-metro population centres and having apparently adequate bids. It's been amply reported that Ballarat have already signed ex Victory (and Perth Glory, NQ Fury, Marconi and Dandenong) player James Robinson as coach and was quoted in a Courier article on here as recruiting with the NPL in mind. Would that put them so far behind the mark as VPL clubs? Players will be taking a punt on Sunshine Georgies or Bentleigh Greens, but they can be more confident that they'll get top level NPL with Ballarat or Geelong. It's an hour by car for the players FFS, as if they don't already travel as long inside Melbourne's 1950's infrastructure for games. Will you be disappointed if they don't get relegated? I have no beef with the regional sides - like the co-signatories I support the idea of a couple of regional sides... However, I'm of the opinion that delays in establishing the league have placed the regional sides at a disadvantage when it comes to recruiting. It's hard to recruit when you don't know what your budget is, and it's hard to establish a budget when you don't know what league you will be in. Ballarat have hired Robinson, yes - that's a single VPL standard player. Other than that I'm not sure who they've signed - I know who they haven't signed though - pretty much all of the identified talent that played in the VPL last year has now been signed up to one club or another. Last year's surviving VPL sides, plus the state 1 sides who earned promotion, are all pretty confident that they will be included in the first tier - and they are recruiting appropriately. With regard to relegation - there's 4-5 clubs I have friends at, I hope they don't get relegated - other than that I don't care who goes down. This isn't about wishing failure on anyone - rather about wishing things had been set up earlier, and clearer, in order to give all clubs as even a playing field as possible. There were a few Ballarat boys playing at VPL clubs last year as well as others in NPLQ that are all going back to play for the Devils should they get into NPL. They should have a competitive team.
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Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year
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CL wrote:Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year Ouch. Who are the bids then? North Geelong Warriors and Surf Coast, I'll bet, but who else?
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paladisious wrote:CL wrote:Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year Ouch. Who are the bids then? North Geelong Warriors and Surf Coast, I'll bet, but who else? from what I hear two other "traditional clubs". If North dont get the bid to represent the Geelong area based on who has put their hands up, then the people in charge of handing out licenses should leave their desks and run out onto oncoming traffic on St. Kilda Rd.
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CL wrote:paladisious wrote:CL wrote:Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year Ouch. Who are the bids then? North Geelong Warriors and Surf Coast, I'll bet, but who else? from what I hear two other "traditional clubs". If North dont get the bid to represent the Geelong area based on who has put their hands up, then the people in charge of handing out licenses should leave their desks and run out onto oncoming traffic on St. Kilda Rd. Would have been nice to see both North and a "broadbased" club get the gig, but I guess there's only so much you can hope for!
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paladisious wrote:CL wrote:paladisious wrote:CL wrote:Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year Ouch. Who are the bids then? North Geelong Warriors and Surf Coast, I'll bet, but who else? from what I hear two other "traditional clubs". If North dont get the bid to represent the Geelong area based on who has put their hands up, then the people in charge of handing out licenses should leave their desks and run out onto oncoming traffic on St. Kilda Rd. Would have been nice to see both North and a "broadbased" club get the gig, but I guess there's only so much you can hope for! Come on! No other club in G-town is deserving of polishing North's boots across the board (criteria or otherwise) and now a broadbased club has to be thrown in as their equal ](*,)
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CL wrote:Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year Galaxy pulled out for a 2014 licence mid November and was confirmed when the new criteria was published. Weren't prepared to field a senior team in 2014 with such short notice.(Feb 7th 2014). The new criteria suited clubs versus new consortia bids plus no female component in 2014 was another factor. North Geelong, Geelong SC & Surfcoast FC are the confirmed bidders from the Geelong Region.
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Benjamin wrote:Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.
It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on). Contrary to your mail Benjamin, I am hearing it will be one division of either 16 -18 clubs ( with 2 regionals) or two divisions (NPLV & NPLV2 a la NSW) with 12 clubs in each (4 regionals in total). Ballarat, Bendigo and a combined Shepparton/Wodonga plus 3 bids from Geelong Region have all submitted with Ballarat odds on in my book. Not sure about Gippsland though. Also I believe a current VPL club is also struggling to get their juniors numbers up to meet the liscencing agreement and another is 'merging'its junior component with a strong State League club's juniors program. We will wait and see what Friday brings. It could all be totally different!!!!
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Benjamin wrote:Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.
It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on). Wouldn't be enough to fill one league [-x
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BMK1 wrote:Benjamin wrote:Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.
It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on). Contrary to your mail Benjamin, I am hearing it will be one division of either 16 -18 clubs ( with 2 regionals) or two divisions (NPLV & NPLV2 a la NSW) with 12 clubs in each (4 regionals in total). Ballarat, Bendigo and a combined Shepparton/Wodonga plus 3 bids from Geelong Region have all submitted with Ballarat odds on in my book. You may also see an NPLV 1 and two NPLV 2 division regionalised to South East and North West. Reasoning there is no set agreement from FFA FFV and Co-sig for a definitive League Model. If Applicants are compliant they are in.Not sure about Gippsland though. Also I believe a current VPL club is also struggling to get their juniors numbers up to meet the liscencing agreement and another is 'merging'its junior component with a strong State League club's juniors program. We will wait and see what Friday brings. Could be I know who you are suggesting It could all be totally different!!!! There is also one metropolitan consortium bid in the mix. Edited by Arthur: 4/2/2014 03:43:38 PM
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Arthur wrote:BMK1 wrote:Benjamin wrote:Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.
It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on). Contrary to your mail Benjamin, I am hearing it will be one division of either 16 -18 clubs ( with 2 regionals) or two divisions (NPLV & NPLV2 a la NSW) with 12 clubs in each (4 regionals in total). Ballarat, Bendigo and a combined Shepparton/Wodonga plus 3 bids from Geelong Region have all submitted with Ballarat odds on in my book. You may also see an NPLV 1 and two NPLV 2 division regionalised to South East and North West. Reasoning there is no set agreement from FFA FFV and Co-sig for a definitive League Model. If Applicants are compliant they are in.Not sure about Gippsland though. Also I believe a current VPL club is also struggling to get their juniors numbers up to meet the liscencing agreement and another is 'merging'its junior component with a strong State League club's juniors program. We will wait and see what Friday brings. Could be I know who you are suggesting It could all be totally different!!!! There is also one metropolitan consortium bid in the mix. Edited by Arthur: 4/2/2014 03:43:38 PM Defining 'being compliant' will be interesting. The Liscensing Agreement and fulfilling the requirement will be challenging for a lot of clubs who are under resourced. My view is that 2014 will not be an issue. They need to roll it out asap (which is an understatement!!). It will be in 2015 when they start auditing club facilities, administration, football departments and the obligatory relationships with community clubs that it will become interesting. Personally I would like to see a max of 24 clubs (2 divisions)in 2014 with an option of adding an extra 4 clubs in 2015.
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2 days guise + Winter Olympics starts woot.
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1 more day. Very keen to see the list.
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TheSelectFew wrote:1 more day. Very keen to see the list. North Geelong Warriors is a confirmed NPLV starter!!!:d :d
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BMK1 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:1 more day. Very keen to see the list. North Geelong Warriors is a confirmed NPLV starter!!!:d :d \:d/
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Hume City and St Albans confirmed as well
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Where these coming from?
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Add Ballarat and Surf Coast to that list
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Iridium1010 wrote:Where these coming from? I'm getting mine from Facebook Northcote city fc as well Edited by apillay12: 6/2/2014 05:51:09 PM
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Moreland Zebras in.
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Hume City*
Ballarat Red Devils
St Albans Saints
Bentleigh Greens*
Northcote*
North Geelong SC
Oakleigh Cannons*
Heidelberg *
South Melbourne*
Richmond
Moreland Zebras
Box Hill Utd
Clubs marked * are existing VPL sides by 'right'.
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Benjamin wrote:Hume City*
Ballarat Red Devils
St Albans Saints
Bentleigh Greens*
Northcote*
North Geelong SC
Oakleigh Cannons*
Heidelberg *
South Melbourne*
Richmond
Moreland Zebras
Box Hill Utd
Clubs marked * are existing VPL sides by 'right'.
Edited by Benjamin: 6/2/2014 06:18:04 PM South coast and Port Melbourne
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apillay12 wrote:Benjamin wrote:Hume City*
Ballarat Red Devils
St Albans Saints
Bentleigh Greens*
Northcote*
North Geelong SC
Oakleigh Cannons*
Heidelberg *
South Melbourne*
Richmond
Moreland Zebras
Box Hill Utd
Clubs marked * are existing VPL sides by 'right'.
Edited by Benjamin: 6/2/2014 06:18:04 PM South coast and Port Melbourne That's Surfcoast FC and you can also throw in Bulleen FC
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NPLV - Northcote, Moreland Zebras, Pascoe Vale, Green Gully, Oakleigh, Bulleen, Sunshine Georgies, Bentleigh, H'berg United , Surf Coast, St.Albans, South Melbourne, Box Hill, Whittlesea Ranges, Port Melb, Hume, Richmond, Nunawading, Shepparton.... so far confirmed.... The locker room FB page
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disbelief
27 apps accepted
resolution: 1 league with all 27 teams playing each other once plus a bye
FFV you are beyond words - if true you deserve what's coming to you
this can only be considered as relegation not a promotion pfffft
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The key word ;) Although only the FFV would be that stupid! Not for the first time I'll have to say we'll just have to wait and see for the official word.
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chris wrote:disbelief
27 apps accepted
resolution: 1 league with all 27 teams playing each other once plus a bye
FFV you are beyond words - if true you deserve what's coming to you
this can only be considered as relegation not a promotion pfffft
Edited by chris: 7/2/2014 12:13:01 AM assessment panel 6people only one was ffv. The consortium took control of the process and sidelined the ffv, not sure that we can now blame the ffv when the game was taken off them....
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Panel was chosen to accept applicants (which was a very soft result considering half the teams do not meet criteria)
FFV implements the model
Big clubs to pull out if this model is announced
NPL_V in jeopardy
FFA Cup $$$ also in Jeopardy
FFV have complicated and over engineered what coul;d and should have been a simple process
They are inept at every level
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chris wrote:Panel was chosen to accept applicants (which was a very soft result considering half the teams do not meet criteria)
FFV implements the model
Big clubs to pull out if this model is announced
NPL_V in jeopardy
FFA Cup $$$ also in Jeopardy
FFV have complicated and over engineered what coul;d and should have been a simple process
They are inept at every level
Agreed. How half those teams got in is beyond belief. It should have been a simple process.
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Eastern Lions SC not in and they have a better setup than a lot in that group!!
To those on here in the know, will the FFV officially let the clubs that didnt make it know why?
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Blackpool FC wrote:Eastern Lions SC not in and they have a better setup than a lot in that group!!
To those on here in the know, will the FFV officially let the clubs that didnt make it know why? Did Eastern Lions apply? If they did then there is no reason why they should't have got in. Edited by Arthur: 7/2/2014 10:52:06 AM
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Yep they did, and its a good setup with plenty of grounds and teams. Will have to wait and see but the fact people are notified before the FFV have released the info online and are posting is an indictment on the FFV/FFA in itself!!!!
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Confirmed NPLV entrants
Avondale Heights
Ballarat Red Devils
Bentleigh Greens
Box Hill United
Bulleen Lions
Dandenong Thunder
Green Gully Cavaliers
Heidelberg United
Hume City
Moreland Zebras
North Geelong
Northcote City
Oakleight Cannons
Pascoe Vale
Port Melbourne Sharks
Richmond
Shepparton
South Melbourne
Springvale White Eagles
St Albans Saints
Sunshine George Cross
Surf Coast
Whittlesea Ranges
Werribee City
Kingston City
Unconfirmed
Dandenong City
Melbourne Knights
Brunswick City
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Regional = 4 teams
Central = 3 teams
West = 5
North = 6
South/East = 7
Seems to be the formula, no wonder some teams who shouldnt be in are, and others arent!
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Blackpool FC wrote:Regional = 4 teams
Central = 3 teams
West = 5
North = 6
South/East = 7
Seems to be the formula, no wonder some teams who shouldnt be in are, and others arent! That's what I got too. They could have used this formula for two division ffs.
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Look forward to Surf Coast Vs Sth Melb (0-9)!!! What a crock-teams will have to buy their own greyline Coaches FFS!
Still nothing on FFV site except womens soccer, gay rights, canine world cup, homeless world cup, Tropical fish seen in 4-4-2 formation on Great barrier Reef etc
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Arthur wrote:Confirmed NPLV entrants
Avondale Heights
Ballarat Red Devils
Bentleigh Greens
Box Hill United
Bulleen Lions
Dandenong Thunder
Green Gully Cavaliers
Heidelberg United
Hume City
Moreland Zebras
North Geelong
Northcote City
Oakleight Cannons
Pascoe Vale
Port Melbourne Sharks
Richmond
Shepparton
South Melbourne
Springvale White Eagles
St Albans Saints
Sunshine George Cross
Surf Coast
Whittlesea Ranges
Werribee City
Kingston City
Melbourne Knights
Unconfirmed
Dandenong City
Brunswick City
Consotiums to join in 2015 Wodonga Bendigo Eastern Jets
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Now I hear NPL1 14 teams, NPL 2 14 teams, story is changing constantly
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They said at the start 24 clubs will form the new N.P.L.. Why is everything so hard for the F.F.V.?
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Are we going to get a confirmation any time this century?
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Rumour is that FFV wants to annouce the 27 team league, one fixture against each (home OR away), with the top half remaining in the 1st division next season, and the others - plus a couple of new sides - forming 2nd division in 2015.
FFA up in arms because this is contrary to the agreement made with the clubs in order to withdraw the previous court action.
Monteleone's last stand?
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We're in!!! Quote:Ballarat to join elite state soccer leaguehttp://www.thecourier.com.au/story/2073609/ballarat-to-join-elite-state-soccer-league/?cs=61BALLARAT will this afternoon be confirmed as a licence holder in the state's new and elite soccer competition. The Red Devils are to be named as one of the inaugural clubs to play in the National Premier Leagues model in 2014. See your ad here It has long been thought Ballarat would be successful in gaining a place in the competition and today's confirmation from Football Federation Victoria will be a massive boost for soccer in the region. The news will follow a host of key appointments at the club, including former Australian goalkeeper Danny Milosevic as football director and A-League championship winner James Robinson as playing manager. Ballarat was one of almost 40 clubs that lodged applications for a place in the Victorian NPL, which looked as though it would not come to fruition following an announcement late last year that it would not go ahead. But it will progress after an agreement between FFV and its clubs on a model to be applied and agreement to stop proceedings in the Supreme Court of Victoria. More to come.
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Arthur wrote:Confirmed NPLV entrants
1 Avondale Heights
2 Ballarat Red Devils
3 Bentleigh Greens
4 Box Hill United
5 Brunswick City
6 Bulleen Lions
7 Dandenong City
8 Dandenong Thunder
9 Green Gully Cavaliers
10 Heidelberg United
11 Hume City
12 Kingston City
13 Melbourne Knights
14 Moreland Zebras
15 North Geelong
16 Northcote City
17 Oakleight Cannons
18 Pascoe Vale
19 Port Melbourne Sharks
20 Richmond
21 South Melbourne
22 Springvale White Eagles
23 St Albans Saints
24 Sunshine George Cross
25 Surf Coast
26 Werribee City
27 Whittlesea Ranges
Consotiums to join in 2015
Wodonga/Shepparton
Bendigo
Eastern Jets
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Where are Eastern jets from? Morwell?
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Apparently four state league one clubs have missed out.
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Football Federation Victoria (FFV) today announces that 30 National Premier Leagues (NPL) licences will be offered to the following clubs/entities commencing this season: Avondale Heights Ballarat Red Devils Bendigo Amateur Soccer League Bentleigh Greens Box Hill United Brunswick City Dandenong City Dandenong Thunder Eastern Lions FC Bulleen Lions Goulburn Valley Suns Green Gully Cavaliers Heidelberg United Hume City Kingston City Melbourne Knights Moreland Zebras North Geelong Warriors Northcote City Oakleigh Cannons Pascoe Vale Port Melbourne Sharks Richmond South Melbourne Springvale White Eagles St Albans Saints Sunshine George Cross Surf Coast Werribee City Whittlesea Ranges All of these clubs/entities will be required to confirm their participation by returning a signed licence agreement to FFV by 5pm on Wednesday 19 February. In addition to the licences listed above that will be offered, FFV will offer a licence to Eastern Jets and Border FC to start in the 2015 season. “FFV recognises the tremendous level of effort and resources required to produce an NPL submission,” FFV President Nick Monteleone said. “All applicants should be congratulated for their dedication in submitting an application. I would like to also thank the Assessment Panel for its hard work reviewing all 37 applications. “The NPL will have a positive impact on players, coaches and club development across all of Victoria.” The competition structure of the NPL will be announced next week, with fixtures to be released on Wednesday 26 February and NPL Rules of Competition on Tuesday 4 March. FFV has appointed Liam Bentley, its former Competitions Manager, as the Head of NPL Victoria. http://www.footballfedvic.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[year]=2014&tx_ttnews[month]=02&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1774&cHash=fb29e773d2e7dc1b9e1fff05075b9c99
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Iridium1010 wrote:Where are Eastern jets from? Morwell? Representing Melbournes Eastern Suburbs
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Iridium1010 wrote:Where are Eastern jets from? Morwell? i think its nunawading and another team
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No competition structure til next week ha? ffv took the CA$H by the looks. How may clubs will be quivering when they need to sign the licencing agreement by next week? Will the lawyers be back? Hallmarks of a great Underbelly episode...don't you think? Hope it works out though. I just want to see an even competitive league structure for all concerned.
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Blackpool FC wrote:Look forward to Surf Coast Vs Sth Melb (0-9)!!! What a crock-teams will have to buy their own greyline Coaches FFS!
Still nothing on FFV site except womens soccer, gay rights, canine world cup, homeless world cup, Tropical fish seen in 4-4-2 formation on Great barrier Reef etc
Edited by Blackpool FC : 7/2/2014 01:00:40 PM Oh no! How will teams in an elite football competition cope!? If an under 17's team with no coaches in an amateur competition in Ballarat can stump up the cash through it's own players and travel two hours to both Warnambool and Horsham every year can do it I'm sure a National Premier League team can.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Where is Border Fc from?
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So no representation from Gippsland, that's a shame.
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Also are greater Geelong galaxy gonna submit an application at a later date?
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TheSelectFew wrote:Where is Border Fc from? I think it's a squad from Albury / Wadonga.
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That's what I thought, but news sites aren't listing it as a regional club.
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Iridium1010 wrote:Also are greater Geelong galaxy gonna submit an application at a later date? Hard to say, wouldn't count on it unless one of the two clubs from Geelong give back their licence or can't afford to run their club in the NPLV. Not enough talent in Geelong for three NPLV clubs. With two it will be stretching it!!!
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BMK1 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Also are greater Geelong galaxy gonna submit an application at a later date? Hard to say, wouldn't count on it unless one of the two clubs from Geelong give back their licence or can't afford to run their club in the NPLV. Not enough talent in Geelong for three NPLV clubs. With two it will be stretching it!!! Will try and get someone to send a tweet to them from me.
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Of course all these teams listed above have such an abundance of highly skilled,highly talented players IN EACH AGE GROUP that parents will be falling over themselves to pay the big $$$ so they can say their "Elite little Johnny" plays with the best of the best .I can't wait to watch the best of the best in this dogs breakfast of the so called Elite competition .....While somebody in the back room will be counting the cash rolling in ...
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BMK1 wrote:No competition structure til next week ha? ffv took the CA$H by the looks. How may clubs will be quivering when they need to sign the licencing agreement by next week? Will the lawyers be back? Hallmarks of a great Underbelly episode...don't you think? Hope it works out though. I just want to see an even competitive league structure for all concerned. Good luck with that. Once they split the league into two divisions you will soon see the same clubs that have been the mainstays of the VPL becoming the mainstays of the NPL. Regional teams, particularly as time goes on and recruitment is more closely linked with locality, will fall to the 2nd tier and stay there.
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Benjamin wrote:BMK1 wrote:No competition structure til next week ha? ffv took the CA$H by the looks. How may clubs will be quivering when they need to sign the licencing agreement by next week? Will the lawyers be back? Hallmarks of a great Underbelly episode...don't you think? Hope it works out though. I just want to see an even competitive league structure for all concerned. Good luck with that. Once they split the league into two divisions you will soon see the same clubs that have been the mainstays of the VPL becoming the mainstays of the NPL. Regional teams, particularly as time goes on and recruitment is more closely linked with locality, will fall to the 2nd tier and stay there. Honestly we can analyse it til the cows come home Benjamin. IMO they oversubscribed with the licences and there should have only been 24 clubs admitted in two tiers. Two up and two down for the first 3 years. 4 new clubs possibly added in 2015 and then build on the npl requirements in terms of program, admin, $$$ and coaching. If you can't comply you are out and replaced. My question is after 3 years of trying to get this shit off the ground in Victoria, has anything really changed? The clubs listed today would have been similar to what were the initial 44 EOI's in the first process and the licencing agreement is still exactly the same. Mixed feelings from my perspective on today's announcement.
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Europe should be a model. Especially for the lower leagues.
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The successful clubs or teams are: Avondale Heights Ballarat Red Devils Bendigo Amateur Soccer League Bentleigh Greens Box Hill United Brunswick City Dandenong City Dandenong Thunder Eastern Lions FC Bulleen Lions Goulburn Valley Suns Green Gully Cavaliers Heidelberg United Hume City Kingston City Melbourne Knights Moreland Zebras North Geelong Warriors Northcote City Oakleigh Cannons Pascoe Vale Port Melbourne Sharks Richmond South Melbourne Springvale White Eagles St Albans Saints Sunshine George Cross Surf Coast Werribee City Whittlesea Ranges Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/ffv-name-their-npl-clubs#RR7AhZdfvRYsbD9J.99 -PB
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Ballarat to join elite state soccer league
By Tim O'Connor Feb. 7, 2014, 3 p.m.
BALLARAT will this afternoon be confirmed as a licence holder in the state's new and elite soccer competition.
The Red Devils are to be named as one of the inaugural clubs to play in the National Premier Leagues model in 2014.
See your ad here
It has long been thought Ballarat would be successful in gaining a place in the competition and today's confirmation from Football Federation Victoria will be a massive boost for soccer in the region.
The news will follow a host of key appointments at the club, including former Australian goalkeeper Danny Milosevic as football director and A-League championship winner James Robinson as playing manager.
Ballarat was one of almost 40 clubs that lodged applications for a place in the Victorian NPL, which looked as though it would not come to fruition following an announcement late last year that it would not go ahead.
But it will progress after an agreement between FFV and its clubs on a model to be applied and agreement to stop proceedings in the Supreme Court of Victoria.
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BMK1 wrote:Benjamin wrote:BMK1 wrote:No competition structure til next week ha? ffv took the CA$H by the looks. How may clubs will be quivering when they need to sign the licencing agreement by next week? Will the lawyers be back? Hallmarks of a great Underbelly episode...don't you think? Hope it works out though. I just want to see an even competitive league structure for all concerned. Good luck with that. Once they split the league into two divisions you will soon see the same clubs that have been the mainstays of the VPL becoming the mainstays of the NPL. Regional teams, particularly as time goes on and recruitment is more closely linked with locality, will fall to the 2nd tier and stay there. Honestly we can analyse it til the cows come home Benjamin. IMO they oversubscribed with the licences and there should have only been 24 clubs admitted in two tiers. Two up and two down for the first 3 years. 4 new clubs possibly added in 2015 and then build on the npl requirements in terms of program, admin, $$$ and coaching. If you can't comply you are out and replaced. My question is after 3 years of trying to get this shit off the ground in Victoria, has anything really changed? The clubs listed today would have been similar to what were the initial 44 EOI's in the first process and the licencing agreement is still exactly the same. Mixed feelings from my perspective on today's announcement. More or less total agreement on all of that. The only positives are that there's a little more geographical spread and the clubs have all agreed to transition to the requirements of the new league - so in another 2-3 years we'll start seeing genuine benefits from the bottom up... But I'm not going to hold my breath for Shepparton, Ballarat, Surf Coast, etc., to challenge for titles.
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Very excited for this now, i don't have a state team and probably won't latch onto one but winter is coming and i've got Bulleen, Box Hill and Richmond all equal distance from me so i'll probably end up going to quite a few of their games against the bigger teams. Plus i get down to torquay a lot so i'll be just as likely to pop into a surf coast game. Just hoping that the NPLV2 is a statewide division and not silly conferences and that we get match highlights of all NPLV and NPLV2 games put online.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Very excited for this now, i don't have a state team and probably won't latch onto one but winter is coming and i've got Bulleen, Box Hill and Richmond all equal distance from me so i'll probably end up going to quite a few of their games against the bigger teams. Plus i get down to torquay a lot so i'll be just as likely to pop into a surf coast game.
Just hoping that the NPLV2 is a statewide division and not silly conferences and that we get match highlights of all NPLV and NPLV2 games put online. Yeah I think I'll be going to some Torquay matches too, as I don't live too far away. Will be good to finally check out the NPL in person.
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Have all these clubs got good enough grounds to met the criteria?
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Atlas wrote:Have all these clubs got good enough grounds to met the criteria? if you're in the stadium seating business, these are bumper times Edited by CL: 10/2/2014 08:13:47 AM
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apillay12 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Where are Eastern jets from? Morwell? i think its nunawading and another team Incorrect, EJFC is a stand alone Club that has at its charter the mission to work with all Clubs in the Eastern Suburbs.
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Border FC is an Albury/Wadonga consortium I think? Eastern Jets has something to do with Nunawading.
Its all still grey, is there an NPL1 and 2, North-West and South East Division? Some of these grounds are shocking (State1) and not sure if they will last, most are chopped up by mid season. Looks like the FFV just wants the cash and will turn a blind eye to many things.
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Blackpool FC wrote:Border FC is an Albury/Wadonga consortium I think? Eastern Jets has something to do with Nunawading.
Its all still grey, is there an NPL1 and 2, North-West and South East Division? Some of these grounds are shocking (State1) and not sure if they will last, most are chopped up by mid season. Looks like the FFV just wants the cash and will turn a blind eye to many things. crux of it. Will be a fun time at the end of this year when the auditing is done.
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FFV just advised (over phone) that they will be announcing the NPL league structure and fixture tomorrow.
Looking forward to know who I will be coaching against and when :)
Bring it on.
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Hawk Saint Victory wrote:FFV just advised (over phone) that they will be announcing the NPL league structure and fixture tomorrow.
Looking forward to know who I will be coaching against and when :)
Bring it on. Keen. Hoping for two state wide divisions.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Hawk Saint Victory wrote:FFV just advised (over phone) that they will be announcing the NPL league structure and fixture tomorrow.
Looking forward to know who I will be coaching against and when :)
Bring it on. Keen. Hoping for two state wide divisions. According to David Davutovic ...two divisions... one 14 and one 16 (eliminates the bye). VPL clubs in top division. Common sense prevails for once!! http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/after-10-months-of-consternation-victorian-federation-to-sign-off-on-national-premier-league-structure/story-e6frf423-1226823954533?from=public_rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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With eight state federations on board, the minor premiers from each state will partake in the NPL finals series from September 20-October 5 with FFA hoping to secure a broadcast partner. Into fap position.
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No Finals series, Just a pure football system!! Don't agree with calling the 2nd division the NPL 1 though. It's just confusing tbh.
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Victoria with a lower participation rate than say QLD gets twice the number of NPL clubs. Is there really that amount of junior talent or is it just a matter of fleecing junior players with the carrot making a living via from football if they join up for NPL.
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Be interesting to see which league winner will play the Tassie NPL winner in Tasmania in the quarter finals
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Timmo wrote:
Be interesting to see which league winner will play the Tassie NPL winner in Tasmania in the quarter finals
I hope it's a randomised draw, it'll ruin some of the magic with the smaller leagues coming in by seeding it.
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Is there relegation/promotion between NPL1 and the NPL??
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FFV wrote:The senior men and under 20 competitions will consist of NPL (14 teams) and NPL 1 (16 teams) subject to all 30 clubs/entities confirming their participation by returning a signed licence agreement to FFV by 5pm Wednesday, February 19.
NPL comprises: Ballarat Red Devils, Bentleigh Greens, Dandenong Thunder, Goulburn Valley Suns, Green Gully Cavaliers, Heidelberg United, Hume City, Melbourne Knights, Northcote City, Oakleigh Cannons, Pascoe Vale, Port Melbourne Sharks, South Melbourne and Werribee City.
NPL 1 comprises: Avondale Heights, Bendigo Amateur Soccer League, Box Hill United, Brunswick City, Dandenong City, Eastern Lions, FC Bulleen Lions, Kingston City, Moreland Zebras, North Geelong Warriors, Richmond, Springvale White Eagles, St Albans Saints, Sunshine George Cross, Surf Coast and Whittlesea Ranges. \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ Edited by paladisious: 12/2/2014 05:10:58 PM
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Decazz wrote:Is there relegation/promotion between NPL1 and the NPL?? to be confirmed in about two weeks
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Decazz wrote:Is there relegation/promotion between NPL1 and the NPL?? This will probably be announced at a later date with the competition rules and guidelines I'm guessing. There was nothing to suggest in the initial release if there is or isn't going to be promo/rele.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Decazz wrote:Is there relegation/promotion between NPL1 and the NPL?? to be confirmed in about two weeks Beat me to the punch.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Decazz wrote:Is there relegation/promotion between NPL1 and the NPL?? to be confirmed in about two weeks I would say it's 99.9% certain to be promotion/relegation considering the clubs were involved in settling the league structure along with the FFV. I can't imagine that 16 of the 30 would have agreed to be locked out of the top division.
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dirkvanadidas wrote:Victoria with a lower participation rate than say QLD gets twice the number of NPL clubs.
Is there really that amount of junior talent or is it just a matter of fleecing junior players with
the carrot making a living via from football if they join up for NPL. Far more clubs in Victoria than Queensland, far more applicants for the NPL process...
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Timmo wrote:
Be interesting to see which league winner will play the Tassie NPL winner in Tasmania in the quarter finals
I hope it's a randomised draw, it'll ruin some of the magic with the smaller leagues coming in by seeding it. In the short term it won't be for the NPL national playoffs due to costs. To cut the cost down the quarter final pairings for the NPL playoffs will be the league winners (1st past the post) Victoria v Tasmania South Australia v Western Australia Northern NSW v Queensland Football NSW v Capital Football Since the Victoria NPL winner will play the Tasmania NPL winner in Tasmania this year then the following year the victorian winner for the 2015 NPL will host the Tasmania NPL winner in the quarter finals. if you get through you will then face the SA or WA NPL winner in the semi and then finals hopefully for the FFA cup it will be a randomised draw
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Who cares if the NPL is randomised or not? A random draw for the FFA Cup is integral, however.
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Timmo wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Timmo wrote:
Be interesting to see which league winner will play the Tassie NPL winner in Tasmania in the quarter finals
I hope it's a randomised draw, it'll ruin some of the magic with the smaller leagues coming in by seeding it. In the short term it won't be for the NPL national playoffs due to costs. To cut the cost down the quarter final pairings for the NPL playoffs will be the league winners (1st past the post) Victoria v Tasmania South Australia v Western Australia Northern NSW v Queensland Football NSW v Capital Football Since the Victoria NPL winner will play the Tasmania NPL winner in Tasmania this year then the following year the victorian winner for the 2015 NPL will host the Tasmania NPL winner in the quarter finals. if you get through you will then face the SA or WA NPL winner in the semi and then finals hopefully for the FFA cup it will be a randomised draw The FFA should have the top two in each state with a knock out competition between the 16 teams.
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Interesting to note former NSl club Preston and VPL powerhouse Altona Magic not in the NPl.
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Heckler wrote:Interesting to note former NSl club Preston and VPL powerhouse Altona Magic not in the NPl. Preston didn't apply.
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Heckler wrote:Interesting to note former NSl club Preston and VPL powerhouse Altona Magic not in the NPl. no cash here Chop
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Who the fuck were they anyway?
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lol why would you? Didn't you have to apply to receive one? Wut? -PB
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Idiots indeed, apply for it then knock it back when majority of members wanted it!! Back to the Churches league
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Especially when other clubs fought so hard to be apart of it.
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Exactly, when you in you can always opt out later, but if your out the chances of getting in are slim for at least 6 years.
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UTMP wrote:Exactly, when you in you can always opt out later, but if your out the chances of getting in are slim for at least 6 years. It's not that simple guys. The Licencing Agreement is a 44 page legal document that once signed binds you to the conditions set out to be part of the NPLV. It's basically signing up for a model that cannot be deviated from greatly. Read it. Search for it on the FFV website and see for yourself. Reading Eastern Lions statement last night tells me that their local council were not fully supportive and the club had second thoughts about being able to meet all of the requirements of the Licencing Agreement. Very prudent in my view. Don't forget each club must have a 12/13/14/15/16/18/20 and Senior Men's team. If not they are not complying and will be in breach of their Liscencing Agreement and will be sanctioned. Realistically how many of the 30 clubs have covered all of their team entries according to NPLV requirements? 2015 when the audit process takes place across the whole club's functions you will see clubs falling by the wayside. From where I sit, Eastern Lions let the dust settle and made their decision to reject the NPLV for what they felt was in the best interest of their stakeholders as it sits currently. " Damned if you ...Damned if you don't" .... They will not be the only club.
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Eastern Lions has all the team requirements , some clubs still don't! This council also looks after Oakleigh Cannons, and they are in. If other clubs haven't for filled all the requirements by yesterday, how can they be given the opportunity? FFV haven't helped here regardless, their lack of communication with local councils is partially to blame for the councils dim view on the word 'elite'. How the other teams persuaded their councils is beyond me, maybe its really who you know in the end.
So who will take up the vacant spot?
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UTMP wrote:FFV haven't helped here regardless you expected their help? They're too busy now trying to figure out a way to still get the 40k out of Eastern FC even though they didn't sign up.
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UTMP wrote:Eastern Lions has all the team requirements , some clubs still don't! This council also looks after Oakleigh Cannons, and they are in. If other clubs haven't for filled all the requirements by yesterday, how can they be given the opportunity? FFV haven't helped here regardless, their lack of communication with local councils is partially to blame for the councils dim view on the word 'elite'. How the other teams persuaded their councils is beyond me, maybe its really who you know in the end.
So who will take up the vacant spot? Feel for clubs like Eastern Lions to a degree. Hamstrung by councils....What makes me laugh was that some councils were prepared to bank roll the licence fee on behalf of their municipalities NPLV club and others have a NPLV presence on club boards. Then there is the complete opposite where councils only want their grounds used strictly for community clubs. Luck of the draw!! Like the previous poster said if you rely on help from the FFV you are absolutely kidding yourself. Couldn't organise a chook raffle let alone administer the game like they should for all their stakeholders. Invoices and fines come out quickly and readily enough to clubs but to actually get something done is near on impossible. No replacement clubs in my view just a rejig. There may be more clubs pulling out. Wouldn't be surprised. IMO 24 clubs would have been the right number in 2014.
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BMK1 wrote:UTMP wrote:Eastern Lions has all the team requirements , some clubs still don't! This council also looks after Oakleigh Cannons, and they are in. If other clubs haven't for filled all the requirements by yesterday, how can they be given the opportunity? FFV haven't helped here regardless, their lack of communication with local councils is partially to blame for the councils dim view on the word 'elite'. How the other teams persuaded their councils is beyond me, maybe its really who you know in the end.
So who will take up the vacant spot? Feel for clubs like Eastern Lions to a degree. Hamstrung by councils....What makes me laugh was that some councils were prepared to bank roll the licence fee on behalf of their municipalities NPLV club and others have a NPLV presence on club boards. Then there is the complete opposite where councils only want their grounds used strictly for community clubs. Luck of the draw!! Like the previous poster said if you rely on help from the FFV you are absolutely kidding yourself. Couldn't organise a chook raffle let alone administer the game like they should for all their stakeholders. Invoices and fines come out quickly and readily enough to clubs but to actually get something done is near on impossible. No replacement clubs in my view just a rejig. There may be more clubs pulling out. Wouldn't be surprised. IMO 24 clubs would have been the right number in 2014. should have been the only number if everything was right. If we are going to be honest, 22. Ten team top divi with second tier of 12. Considering its first past the post, having a Top 5 would have been a waste of time.
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Surf Coast in or out?
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Apparently OUT, dont blame em, imagine travelling that far every second week?
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travelling an excuse? Come on? If the club is honest it would organise with Benders a bus for the team when they are travelling to away games to help parents out, considering for the first half of the season the entire club junior would be playing at the same place, clubs should be taking this as an opportunity for the visiting club to come in one hit and make it a "carnival day" of sorts. Help build good relationships between clubs in the leagues.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Well this is a disgrace. In which sense? Clubs pulling out, or the competition set up as a whole?
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Benjamin wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Well this is a disgrace. In which sense? Clubs pulling out, or the competition set up as a whole? Both. I understand the FFV wanting a state wide comp but if it isn't going to happen, forcing it isn't going to help.
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CL wrote:travelling an excuse? Come on? If the club is honest it would organise with Benders a bus for the team when they are travelling to away games to help parents out, considering for the first half of the season the entire club junior would be playing at the same place, clubs should be taking this as an opportunity for the visiting club to come in one hit and make it a "carnival day" of sorts. Help build good relationships between clubs in the leagues. I dont think the juniors are playing the same team as the seniors, they run on a different geographic schedule/fixture? At the end of the day, its only semi professional and to take out an entire day when 80% is travelling is a hard thing for young players who are studying and working as well. Not a lot of thought has gone into this obviously, although Im sure the other clubs would be happy not to travel to Torquay.
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Blackpool FC wrote:CL wrote:travelling an excuse? Come on? If the club is honest it would organise with Benders a bus for the team when they are travelling to away games to help parents out, considering for the first half of the season the entire club junior would be playing at the same place, clubs should be taking this as an opportunity for the visiting club to come in one hit and make it a "carnival day" of sorts. Help build good relationships between clubs in the leagues. I dont think the juniors are playing the same team as the seniors, they run on a different geographic schedule/fixture? At the end of the day, its only semi professional and to take out an entire day when 80% is travelling is a hard thing for young players who are studying and working as well. Not a lot of thought has gone into this obviously, although Im sure the other clubs would be happy not to travel to Torquay. This is only for the juniors that this set up is being used. Say for example Melbourne Knights are playing Bendigo. Therefore all relevant age groups for Knights juniors would be playing at Bendigo on the same day in the first half of the season.
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A major part of the problem with implementation of the NPLV is the confilct of "Vision" that the three major participants have of the NPL, the FFA, the FFV and the Participant Clubs.
This issue will continue as facts on the ground start to play a role, hence the withdrawal of Eastern Lions and Surf Coast FC. Issues such as Council Support, Finances, Participant Costs, Club Cultural Issues, Administrative Abilities, Geographic Regional Capabilities and future issues such as Club Ownership which willbe a real Tsunami.
The FFA's vision of the NPL is a Sydney Centric one and forced on the rest of the country without variation for the facts on the ground.
On top of that the FFV has had its own Vision of the future for the game with its "Summer league" proposals of 2008 marrying those with the FFA Vision of the NCR and NPL.
Of Course the Clubs have their own Vision of what the NPL is about and certainly not in a unified view, with a disconnect of VPL and aspiring VPL Clubs, Mid ranked Clubs and Lower ranked Clubs.
These competeing Visions are creating "conflict" that has yet to be resolved.
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Blackpool FC wrote:Apparently OUT, dont blame em, imagine travelling that far every second week? You mean like the North Queensland teams do to Brisbane?
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aussieshorter wrote:Blackpool FC wrote:Apparently OUT, dont blame em, imagine travelling that far every second week? You mean like the North Queensland teams do to Brisbane? Im not defending them, dont get me wrong, lots of teams have to travel. On a seperate note how many of these NPL and NPL1 teams have set up seperate Community Teams to cater for the displaced teams? All I know of is Oakleigh setting up Chisolm United?
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Blackpool FC wrote:aussieshorter wrote:Blackpool FC wrote:Apparently OUT, dont blame em, imagine travelling that far every second week? You mean like the North Queensland teams do to Brisbane? Im not defending them, dont get me wrong, lots of teams have to travel. On a seperate note how many of these NPL and NPL1 teams have set up seperate Community Teams to cater for the displaced teams? All I know of is Oakleigh setting up Chisolm United? Dandy Thunder has set up South Dandy as their community team. I know of another club thats in the process of doing it
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I heard Dandy City will keep all their juniors for this year and start of a community club in 2015, Box Hill claim to keep an extra 150 juniors because of the NPLV rules changes and FFV say neither can be done if your an NPL club, bloody confusing???
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Blackpool FC wrote:I heard Dandy City will keep all their juniors for this year and start of a community club in 2015, Box Hill claim to keep an extra 150 juniors because of the NPLV rules changes and FFV say neither can be done if your an NPL club, bloody confusing??? wasnt this part of the reason that Box Hill signed on in the end in regards to maintaining of junior numbers
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Well if this is true its one of the reasons the Eastern Lions pulled out because of the displacement and need to get a community team up and running in a short space of time!!
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CL wrote:Blackpool FC wrote:aussieshorter wrote:Blackpool FC wrote:Apparently OUT, dont blame em, imagine travelling that far every second week? You mean like the North Queensland teams do to Brisbane? Im not defending them, dont get me wrong, lots of teams have to travel. On a seperate note how many of these NPL and NPL1 teams have set up seperate Community Teams to cater for the displaced teams? All I know of is Oakleigh setting up Chisolm United? Dandy Thunder has set up South Dandy as their community team. I know of another club thats in the process of doing it also whittlesea ranges have set up thomastown raiders they will play out of partridge st
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Partridge Street is not fit for State league 3 let alone NPL. Mind you a lot of other clubs have similar sub-standard grounds.
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Atlas wrote:Partridge Street is not fit for State league 3 let alone NPL. Mind you a lot of other clubs have similar sub-standard grounds.
ranges are playing out of epping stadium.. i meant raiders will be playing out of partridge st but i agree it aint the best facility going around..
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The circus continues with the NPLV model, right from the first model till now it is a joke. How can a NPL club like Avendale Heights who's ground has a cricket pitch in the middle during winter they put sand on it, their ground is opened and not fenced off. Brunswick City is another mob, facilities are a shambles. 70% of clubs don't meet the criteria and yet they find themselves in the NPL. Then you have some of these clubs re-registering new clubs to to keep their b team juniors etc. what's the point of having a criteria?
then I checked the state league structure and guess what? These so called community clubs the are paying the same affiliate league fees and player registration as last season. I did the numbers and the costs, it will cost more to run a community club then and NPL club.
How can this be? The reality is clubs need to start looking at the vicsoccer structure as it is more affordable.
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It raised more questions than answers. This whole NPL thing has cause me untold grief and has drained me the last few weeks.
As a parent and a coach, I am torn between missing out and stay or moving on? Lucky my son still has a couple years to go before juniors, but so many clubs are given the license but don't have everything in place?
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Then you have all these new clubs like Surf Coast run by mums and dads that are not club people they put the bait in and pull out. How can you have faith in 3 year old clubs vs established clubs. The councils have built new grounds in high growth areas only to limit newly formed clubs to use the facility through an allocation policy. Most of these facilities are shared with cricket. How can these clubs be serious about NPL vs established clubs.
I still think the transition should have been rebranding VPL and SL1 to NPL and then giving them 3 year period to meet the criteria whilst other clubs in the lower leagues that aspire for NPL should have gone via promotion process and meeting the criteria with juniors etc.
The FFV handed many clubs promotion on a platter to many clubs that don't deserve to be part of it.
What a mockery the FFV have made this it was so easy to follow the other state model.
Since looking at the NPL structure I will now refuse to go to any games at any level and will resort to watching epl on foxtel.
The FFV stick it up your cracker and Cherio to football run by the FFV.
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It could have been so simple.
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TheSelectFew wrote:It could have been so simple. =d> Heckler and UTMP bring up valid points. However reality says that the FFA instructed the FFV on how to form the NPLV for 2014. Remember the FFV wanted to postpone it in 2014 and maintain the status quo. Things below the surface are always playing out. FFV relatively impotent in this NPLV structure and FFA needed Vic on board for the FFA Cup which is announced tomorrow probably with a major sponsor. As I see it there are NPLV clubs who will do a good job of it across the board. They have the facilities, the programs, the resources, the coaches, solid admin and an abundance of trialists for each section of their clubs - SAP, pre- juniors, juniors, youth and seniors. These clubs have already hit the ground running well and truly before Christmas. Then there are those clubs that are in transition from community club to NPLV club and are playing 'catch up' to meet the requirement of their licencing agreements and making it up as it goes along. They have bought time during the 2014 season to get their shit together and hope all issues and requirements are up to speed by the end of October in readiness for 2015. Some will excel at it, others will struggle or have limited resources to continue. Then you have the 'strugglers' who have poor facilities, poor arrangements with their councils or are not up to the standards required across all areas at NPLV level. It's time for our FFV to pull their fingers out of their clackers and work with all licence holders to guide them to comply with all facets of their agreements. It's not about just handing over the 40k and if you fall over the next club on the list gets a gig. For it to be successful a benchmark needs to be set across all areas of the agreement for clubs to emulate or learn from each other. A NPLV Management group needs to be set up for the football side (all club TD's involved) and another one for admin and off the park issues ( facilities/admin/community programs/marketing) so clubs can work together collectively to improve the standard of the NPLV and give all our players, coaches, clubs and stakeholders a product that they can be proud of. We need to start somewhere. Interesting year ahead no doubt. Enjoy your season everybody. More importantly, continue to love the game!! :)
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How can you enjoy the season if thereis double standards? There is a criteria is there for a reason. 70% of clubs don't meet it. Facilities are a shambles most don't have the juniors etc... There is only 5 clubs that meet the criteria.Heidelberg for example did not pay their players after round 8. What stability is that? As I mentioned before there are club that play on open paddocks and have cricket pitches in the middle of the ground it is open park land and yet they are NPL.
It's a joke.
FFV is a joke and I will never watch local football again. This is why crowds will be lucky with 50people watching.
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Heckler wrote:How can you enjoy the season if there is double standards? There is a criteria is there for a reason. 70% of clubs don't meet it. Facilities are a shambles most don't have the juniors etc... There is only 5 clubs that meet the criteria.Heidelberg for example did not pay their players after round 8. What stability is that? As I mentioned before there are club that play on open paddocks and have cricket pitches in the middle of the ground it is open park land and yet they are NPL.
It's a joke.
FFV is a joke and I will never watch local football again. This is why crowds will be lucky with 50people watching. Sorry Heckler. If you thought that the FFV was going to run the NPLV strictly according to the new criteria (including facilities) and to the licencing agreement then you are kidding yourself. That died in the courts with an injunction in September. What we have now is a version of the NPLV that will suit the FFA and their finals series plus the roll out of the FFA Cup. It also suits the FFV as they will have 28 x 40k deposited into their account as well as merchandising rights and IP rights for all of the clubs. It also suits traditional clubs who need to keep fighting to keep their clubs alive and try to prolong/ protect their futures. Some are well prepared and others are poorly resourced like the example you mentioned. As I keep saying, it is what it is and by 2015 the goalposts will change again and clubs will either flourish, stagnate or in some cases fall by the wayside. Surfcoast FC for example didn't even kick a ball in the NPLV. Now they have no licence and are battling to keep their community club from going into freefall. NPLV a joke? maybe...It was not going to be much more than that in 2014. We just need to get the season started and hope that the damage is limited. FFV Board elections due in 2015. Need a new one with plenty of constitutional reform included. Here's hoping....
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Reckon Green Gully has be the cheapest rates of any NPL clubs. Only $450 for kids from Under 12 to under 18. What are other clubs charging?
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Atlas wrote:Reckon Green Gully has be the cheapest rates of any NPL clubs. Only $450 for kids from Under 12 to under 18. What are other clubs charging? according to a few mates whittlesea ranges wanted around 2k or something for the u/18s npl squad
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UTMP
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thejollyvic wrote:Atlas wrote:Reckon Green Gully has be the cheapest rates of any NPL clubs. Only $450 for kids from Under 12 to under 18. What are other clubs charging? according to a few mates whittlesea ranges wanted around 2k or something for the u/18s npl squad Box Hill $1900, Bulleen $2200, Oakleigh $2200, Dandenong City $1500 approx, Kingston $850, Bentleigh Greens $2200 Some have the advantage of their own grounds and pokies, I think Green Gully has pokies so if any club has pokies and a cheap fee its at the expense of misery in the area due to gambling, shouldn't be allowed.
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Atlas
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Yeah ban the pokies
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Werribee is charging $1700. The whole model makes a mockery of the FFV. This league is only for high income families. Show me the money!!!
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UTMP wrote:thejollyvic wrote:Atlas wrote:Reckon Green Gully has be the cheapest rates of any NPL clubs. Only $450 for kids from Under 12 to under 18. What are other clubs charging? according to a few mates whittlesea ranges wanted around 2k or something for the u/18s npl squad Box Hill $1900, Bulleen $2200, Oakleigh $2200, Dandenong City $1500 approx, Kingston $850, Bentleigh Greens $2200 Some have the advantage of their own grounds and pokies, I think Green Gully has pokies so if any club has pokies and a cheap fee its at the expense of misery in the area due to gambling, shouldn't be allowed. Pokies = no worries, Coopers shirt sponsorship for Adelaide = ZOMG Think of the Children (and our short term cash injection) #FFALogic
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Heckler wrote:Werribee is charging $1700. The whole model makes a mockery of the FFV. This league is only for high income families. Show me the money!!! and they've got the pokies there too :-&
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The NPLV club I am dealing with is charging around $1500 but also offers disadvantaged kids a discount/scholarship option.
People need to understand that the payments are justified to make this work. We don't have the luxury of a lucrative television rights deal like the AFL in the billions of dollars, where they can filter the money down to Juniors, so parents only pay $100 token fees.
Our TV rights deal is tiny, Wayne Rooneys overall contract is about the same as the FFA TV rights deal. How can we compete.
We have to survive the next few years, increase the exposure of a successful NPL comp and then the $$$ will roll in with a revamped TV rights deal.
Here's hoping.
Football revolution has begun
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How can the $$$ role with clubs like Avendale Heights ground with a cricket pitch in the middle and it is open park space so is Brunswick City, it is embarrassing to get a film Crüe there in fact you will never attract tv rights.
The NPL clubs have shut the door on talented juniors,scholarships can be 1-2 kids and watch the uproar when the paying parents find out.
What a joke.
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Heckler wrote:How can the $$$ role with clubs like Avendale Heights ground with a cricket pitch in the middle and it is open park space so is Brunswick City, it is embarrassing to get a film Crüe there in fact you will never attract tv rights.
The NPL clubs have shut the door on talented juniors,scholarships can be 1-2 kids and watch the uproar when the paying parents find out.
What a joke. so true also olympic village isn't really attractive these days haven't been to churchill reserve in years but from memory wasn't anything special
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UTMP
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thejollyvic wrote:Heckler wrote:How can the $$$ role with clubs like Avendale Heights ground with a cricket pitch in the middle and it is open park space so is Brunswick City, it is embarrassing to get a film Crüe there in fact you will never attract tv rights.
The NPL clubs have shut the door on talented juniors,scholarships can be 1-2 kids and watch the uproar when the paying parents find out.
What a joke. so true also olympic village isn't really attractive these days haven't been to churchill reserve in years but from memory wasn't anything special Heidlebergs ground is shocking, looks like post war Ukraine for farks sake, ground is rubbish and stands are old and faded with bird shit everywhere. Its obvious the FFV just want the $$$ and are will to overlook their own guidelines, some teams don't even have all the juniors yet!!!
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Olympic Village and Churchilll Reserve are at least fenced off on camera Olympic Village will be ok thus the stadium is still better than 80% of the grounds at least it has terraces and covering. You go to Richmond, Pascoe Vale etc it's like going to watch a pub team play kick about football.
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The criteria, what happened to the criteria. It seems to me the FFV can get 28 teams @ $40,000 or $50,000 (whatever it is) better than having just 14 clubs, we'll make more money and that's what they did. Don't worry about the criteria.
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Yes 28k x 40k is 1.92k in the FFV coffers, no other state is getting this sort of money. The FFV made a shambles of the first model and now this second model is even worst. On top of this clubs are are urgently registering new community clubs to keep their b grade teams for more money.
FFV needs to be audited by a royal commission.
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Heckler
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Yes 28k x 40k is 1.92k in the FFV coffers, no other state is getting this sort of money. The FFV made a shambles of the first model and now this second model is even worst. On top of this clubs are are urgently registering new community clubs to keep their b grade teams for more money.
FFV needs to be audited by a royal commission.
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Just heard melb knights, green gully, Richmond are not registering community teams, whilst Sunshine George Cross have registered a community team in order to make extra money on the b team junior teams and parents were told if selected for the community teams it does not secure game time for kids. If I were the parents I would look elsewhere.
The platter clubs that were handed NPL status are struggling to make junior teams. What a joke!!!
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Just heard melb knights, green gully, Richmond are not registering community teams, whilst Sunshine George Cross have registered a community team in order to make extra money on the b team junior teams and parents were told if selected for the community teams it does not secure game time for kids. If I were the parents I would look elsewhere.
The platter clubs that were handed NPL status are struggling to make junior teams. What a joke!!!
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Will be interesting to see how Sunshine George Cross will cope running so many teams.
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Heckler wrote:Just heard melb knights, green gully, Richmond are not registering community teams, whilst Sunshine George Cross have registered a community team in order to make extra money on the b team junior teams and parents were told if selected for the community teams it does not secure game time for kids. If I were the parents I would look elsewhere.
The platter clubs that were handed NPL status are struggling to make junior teams. What a joke!!! Thats strange, why would their local council assist if they dont have a community club? Cost are too high for juniors, hopefully lack of quality players in the next couple of years will require a revisit on pricing, although I doubt it?
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At the risk of annoying my friends at various NPL clubs - every team should have been required to provide at least half a dozen scholarship places in each age group - 100% funded from the fees of the other players at the club.
Had this been in place, those who are getting in because they have money and ability rather than just high ability, would have been serving the game as well as themselves and the club.
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Benjamin wrote:At the risk of annoying my friends at various NPL clubs - every team should have been required to provide at least half a dozen scholarship places in each age group - 100% funded from the fees of the other players at the club.
Had this been in place, those who are getting in because they have money and ability rather than just high ability, would have been serving the game as well as themselves and the club. Ive said that all along, $120 from each kid will allow a talented kid to have a shot whose financial means may exclude them normally. The FFV should use part of the 40k to actually assist with this as well!
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Benjamin wrote:At the risk of annoying my friends at various NPL clubs - every team should have been required to provide at least half a dozen scholarship places in each age group - 100% funded from the fees of the other players at the club.
Had this been in place, those who are getting in because they have money and ability rather than just high ability, would have been serving the game as well as themselves and the club. I like the concept, but I guess it all comes down to what those at the clubs consider "fair". It certainly would add some significant talent to the pool though I would expect.
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guys in terms of the NPLV or NPLV1 for the FFA cup..what teams grounds would actually work for television and have seating...other than south and melb knights?
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Decazz wrote:guys in terms of the NPLV or NPLV1 for the FFA cup..what teams grounds would actually work for television and have seating...other than south and melb knights?
not many to be honest i reckon they will move the cup games to other stadiums which are suitable for TV matches there is only 10 matches scheduled for television so Victoria might only even get 1 or 2 games on TV considering the amount of teams from NSW.
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Depending where the camera is positioned the suitable grounds are:
Knights
BJS
Heidelberg
Bulleen
North cote
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Depending where the camera is positioned the suitable grounds are:
Knights
BJS
Heidelberg
Bulleen
North cote
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Richmond has televised games too.
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Watched NPL side Heidelberg utd last night against NPL 1 side whittlesea ranges game ended 1-0 bergers. United looked sharp knocked the ball around really well.. whittlesea on the other hand are in struggle town barely had any friendlies and looked out on there feet by the 60th min very contrasting sides
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Just heard today Green Gully reduced their junior fees significantly as many left in their droves. This NPLV model continues to kill the next generation of players.
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Heckler wrote:Just heard today Green Gully reduced their junior fees significantly as many left in their droves. This NPLV model continues to kill the next generation of players. what do you mean weren't the gully fees at around $450 way less than other clubs
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Initially they advertised at $1500 then an exodus occurred.
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