Climate change: Fact or Fiction?


Climate change: Fact or Fiction?

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tbitm wrote:
I'll give ricecrackers that one. It looks like the Obama administration media department just got a few buzzwords and put it in a tweet appeal to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I'd say pollution causes both of those but they don't lead to each other.

But let's laugh at a few non believers to make are this fair

[youtube]CKBC4O5aNR0[/youtube]

Not the onion btw :d


you do realise that John Cook, the creator of skeptical science.com that all you new agers bear as false witness is an Evangelical christian

you know, the guy who also created the 97% fraud that Barry O likes to talk about

how does that reconcile with your left right paradigm?
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ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
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RedKat wrote:
Once again showing all your ignorance


irony coming from you

years in the future i hope the collaborators are held to account for the millions of deaths they caused through enforced austerity via this scam


Years in the future I hope the people who were ignorantly rejecting the science be held accountable for not just the deaths of man they caused but the deaths of animals and the environment destruction that their ignorant skepticism (in the face of few things with more scientific certainty) caused via both their individual greed and inability to accept science. Sadly it will probably never be the case or only be the case when its too late


pfft its not science
the only greed exhibited here is by the scammers and those who collaborate for personal gain.

furthermore you have all the depressed kids that are being scared to death by all of this fearmongering in schools and media.

their suicides and anxiety related deaths should also be prosecuted. I
hope the day comes when those like you who willingly participated in this fraud are held accountable and you're made to face some of the relatives of the victims of your new ageism cult.


Kids are killing themselves over climate change? :lol:
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Once again showing all your ignorance


irony coming from you

years in the future i hope the collaborators are held to account for the millions of deaths they caused through enforced austerity via this scam


Years in the future I hope the people who were ignorantly rejecting the science be held accountable for not just the deaths of man they caused but the deaths of animals and the environment destruction that their ignorant skepticism (in the face of few things with more scientific certainty) caused via both their individual greed and inability to accept science. Sadly it will probably never be the case or only be the case when its too late


pfft its not science
the only greed exhibited here is by the scammers and those who collaborate for personal gain.

furthermore you have all the depressed kids that are being scared to death by all of this fearmongering in schools and media.

their suicides and anxiety related deaths should also be prosecuted. I
hope the day comes when those like you who willingly participated in this fraud are held accountable and you're made to face some of the relatives of the victims of your new ageism cult.


Kids are killing themselves over climate change? :lol:


yep its a #fact
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Once again showing all your ignorance


irony coming from you

years in the future i hope the collaborators are held to account for the millions of deaths they caused through enforced austerity via this scam


Years in the future I hope the people who were ignorantly rejecting the science be held accountable for not just the deaths of man they caused but the deaths of animals and the environment destruction that their ignorant skepticism (in the face of few things with more scientific certainty) caused via both their individual greed and inability to accept science. Sadly it will probably never be the case or only be the case when its too late


pfft its not science
the only greed exhibited here is by the scammers and those who collaborate for personal gain.

furthermore you have all the depressed kids that are being scared to death by all of this fearmongering in schools and media.

their suicides and anxiety related deaths should also be prosecuted. I
hope the day comes when those like you who willingly participated in this fraud are held accountable and you're made to face some of the relatives of the victims of your new ageism cult.


Kids are killing themselves over climate change? :lol:


yep its a #fact


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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:lol: kids committing suicide because of global warming, right.
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Ricecrackers reaching a whole new level of #vintage.
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RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one
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ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:
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ricecrackers wrote:
tbitm wrote:
I'll give ricecrackers that one. It looks like the Obama administration media department just got a few buzzwords and put it in a tweet appeal to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I'd say pollution causes both of those but they don't lead to each other.

But let's laugh at a few non believers to make are this fair

[youtube]CKBC4O5aNR0[/youtube]

Not the onion btw :d


you do realise that John Cook, the creator of skeptical science.com that all you new agers bear as false witness is an Evangelical christian

you know, the guy who also created the 97% fraud that Barry O likes to talk about

how does that reconcile with your left right paradigm?
i didn't realise that cause I don't know who that is.

But i didn't try to lump all Christians together, merely just laugh at this idiot.

Edited by tbitm: 2/6/2014 12:41:15 AM
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it


:lol: :lol:

So you are happy to listen to the findings of one random uni student over 1000's of actual scientific reports.

You are blind to the things you don't want to see

:lol: :lol:
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it


:lol: :lol:

So you are happy to listen to the findings of one random uni student over 1000's of actual scientific reports.

You are blind to the things you don't want to see

:lol: :lol:


i keep hearing about these thousands of scientific reports, much like i kept hearing about 97% however i doubt you've even read one of them

i dont doubt there are thousands of scientific reports because thats where all the money is, but i'd challenge you to find one that demonstrates unequivocal evidence of global warming caused by human carbon dioxide emissions much less actual climate change
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RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it


Abuses scientific papers as not actual fact.
Uses a 'scientific' paper to make point.
Ignores the fact that its one paper with undefined methods and only proposes a weak correlational study which really has no scientific basis.

Try again.


i didnt abuse any scientific paper. you're bearing false witness there.

i was asked by someone to provide literature associated with a claim and i did. i didnt need to mind you, because I already knew it existed. logic told me so.

i dont require someone else to think for me.
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ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it


Abuses scientific papers as not actual fact.
Uses a 'scientific' paper to make point.
Ignores the fact that its one paper with undefined methods and only proposes a weak correlational study which really has no scientific basis.

Try again.


i didnt abuse any scientific paper. you're bearing false witness there.

i was asked by someone to provide literature associated with a claim and i did. i didnt need to mind you, because I already knew it existed. logic told me so.

i dont require someone else to think for me.


But the literature didn't back up your claim :lol:

And it hasn't been peer reviewed so really it's nothing more then an article published in the Courier mail which could and would publish any BS.
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RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

[size=9]of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it[/size]


Abuses scientific papers as not actual fact.
Uses a 'scientific' paper to make point.
Ignores the fact that its one paper with undefined methods and only proposes a weak correlational study which really has no scientific basis.

Try again.

EDIT: Also it states 'he said previous studies had shown temperature could be attributed to seasonal changes in physiological conditions of the body such as levels of serotonin - which is related to wellness and happiness.' and 'He said unemployment and temperature change had an interactive effect on suicide.'
So then, if we give this more respect than it deserves, in order to have the effect that is hypothesised, it would mean that temperatures are actually rising. And if temperature are actually rising well guess what thats what global warming is.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Edited by RedKat: 2/6/2014 12:58:00 AM


you might want to actually read my entire post next time. poor comprehension betrays you.

they're killing themselves because of thinking the climate is changing because of what they've been told.
its entirely psychosomatic which too can effect serotonin levels as being constantly delivered negative news will do the same thing. we know the climate isnt actually changing because there is no evidence.

i'm not supporting the hypothesis of this article at all, its merely an example of people killing themselves because of fear of climate change and blame being attributed to non-existent climate change.

its a perfect storm to sell more drugs. and we identity yet another profiteer out of the climate change scam industry.
...the drug companies. who would've thunk

not you obviously, because you dont um... think
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it


> Asked to prove a point
> Cites article proving opposite of his point

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ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

[size=9]of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it[/size]


Abuses scientific papers as not actual fact.
Uses a 'scientific' paper to make point.
Ignores the fact that its one paper with undefined methods and only proposes a weak correlational study which really has no scientific basis.

Try again.

EDIT: Also it states 'he said previous studies had shown temperature could be attributed to seasonal changes in physiological conditions of the body such as levels of serotonin - which is related to wellness and happiness.' and 'He said unemployment and temperature change had an interactive effect on suicide.'
So then, if we give this more respect than it deserves, in order to have the effect that is hypothesised, it would mean that temperatures are actually rising. And if temperature are actually rising well guess what thats what global warming is.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Edited by RedKat: 2/6/2014 12:58:00 AM


you might want to actually read my entire post next time. poor comprehension betrays you.

they're killing themselves because of thinking the climate is changing because of what they've been told.
its entirely psychosomatic which too can effect serotonin levels as being constantly delivered negative news will do the same thing. we know the climate isnt actually changing because there is no evidence.

i'm not supporting the hypothesis of this article at all, its merely an example of people killing themselves because of fear of climate change and blame being attributed to non-existent climate change.

its a perfect storm to sell more drugs. and we identity yet another profiteer out of the climate change scam industry.
...the drug companies. who would've thunk

not you obviously, because you dont um... think


Ok you are the one with bad comprehension skills. No where in the article did it say people are killing themselves because of the "fear" of global warming. :lol:

Fucking idiot. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I'm gonna go neck myself because I'm scared that it's going to be 1 degree hotter in 3 years time

Ricecracker logic

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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You might need to re-read your article. Hotter weather changes human behaviour where they saw an increase in suicides depending on the month. There's also a correlation between violence and hotter weather so it's not too surprising to read those results. No-where in that article did they say it was fear of global warming though. :lol:
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RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
So my statements on climate change are based off actual scientific literature (and the masses of papers that are published all the time). Youve now made a claim. Can you back it up with actual evidence? *eagerly awaits something more hilarious than a historian and arts degree recipient talking on vaccinations*


show me one


I wanna see literature where it says kids are committing suicide because of Global warming :lol: :lol:


http://www.news.qut.edu.au/cgi-bin/WebObjects/News.woa/wa/goNewsPage?newsEventID=68852

[size=9]of course you people blame on it actual global warming (which isnt even happening) rather than the fear of it[/size]


Abuses scientific papers as not actual fact.
Uses a 'scientific' paper to make point.
Ignores the fact that its one paper with undefined methods and only proposes a weak correlational study which really has no scientific basis.

Try again.

EDIT: Also it states 'he said previous studies had shown temperature could be attributed to seasonal changes in physiological conditions of the body such as levels of serotonin - which is related to wellness and happiness.' and 'He said unemployment and temperature change had an interactive effect on suicide.'
So then, if we give this more respect than it deserves, in order to have the effect that is hypothesised, it would mean that temperatures are actually rising. And if temperature are actually rising well guess what thats what global warming is.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Edited by RedKat: 2/6/2014 12:58:00 AM


you might want to actually read my entire post next time. poor comprehension betrays you.

they're killing themselves because of thinking the climate is changing because of what they've been told.
its entirely psychosomatic which too can effect serotonin levels as being constantly delivered negative news will do the same thing. we know the climate isnt actually changing because there is no evidence.

i'm not supporting the hypothesis of this article at all, its merely an example of people killing themselves because of fear of climate change and blame being attributed to non-existent climate change.

its a perfect storm to sell more drugs. and we identity yet another profiteer out of the climate change scam industry.
...the drug companies. who would've thunk

not you obviously, because you dont um... think


But where in the article does it state your conclusions?

It states clearly ''He said unemployment and temperature change had an interactive effect on suicide.' Which would support the fact that there is temperature change. Where in the article does it draw the conclusions that you have?

And so you dont support an article or its hypothesis but use it as an argument? How can it be your argument if you dont agree with it at all and draw conclusions from the 'research' that the researcher doesnt come to?


do you understand the difference between data and a conclusive hypothesis?

you see there is no climate change

this study, the data occurred in Australia and we havent experienced any climate change, so in the absence of climate change it only leaves the fear of climate change as a conclusion

can you get that through to your head?

answer me this simple question...
would you agree that depression is a leading cause of suicide? yes or no?



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Holy shit Ricecrackers, you are a fucking idiot :lol: :lol:


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tbitm wrote:
You might need to re-read your article. Hotter weather changes human behaviour where they saw an increase in suicides depending on the month. There's also a correlation between violence and hotter weather so it's not too surprising to read those results. No-where in that article did they say it was fear of global warming though. :lol:


you're moving the goalposts to global warming when the discussion was about "climate change"
dont think i didnt notice [-x

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Climate change linked to increase in Australia’s suicide rates

A QUT researcher is predicting suicide rates will rise as a result of climate change after finding a link between high and varied temperatures and people taking their own life.

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still waiting for your single scientific paper "redkat"
do you think you'll be able to post it up before we all die in a flood?
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Can you read more of the study that the headline? The climate changes every month and hotter months had higher suicide rates.

The researcher then hypothesised that when global warming becomes more prominent (forget that it doesn't exist for a second, he's a scientist that's been paid by al gore so he believes it) he thinks suicides will increase.

That's literally the tl;dr version of that paper.
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Ricecrackers, how many times a week do you see a phycologist ? And were you bullyed a lot at school ?





Edited by roar #1 : 2/6/2014 01:34:53 AM
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ricecrackers wrote:
tbitm wrote:
You might need to re-read your article. Hotter weather changes human behaviour where they saw an increase in suicides depending on the month. There's also a correlation between violence and hotter weather so it's not too surprising to read those results. No-where in that article did they say it was fear of global warming though. :lol:


you're moving the goalposts to global warming when the discussion was about "climate change"
dont think i didnt notice [-x

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Climate change linked to increase in Australia’s suicide rates

A QUT researcher is predicting suicide rates will rise as a result of climate change after finding a link between [size=9]high[/size] and varied temperatures and people taking their own life.
my bad, but climate change includes the earth generally getting hotter.
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tbitm wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
tbitm wrote:
You might need to re-read your article. Hotter weather changes human behaviour where they saw an increase in suicides depending on the month. There's also a correlation between violence and hotter weather so it's not too surprising to read those results. No-where in that article did they say it was fear of global warming though. :lol:


you're moving the goalposts to global warming when the discussion was about "climate change"
dont think i didnt notice [-x

Quote:
Climate change linked to increase in Australia’s suicide rates

A QUT researcher is predicting suicide rates will rise as a result of climate change after finding a link between [size=9]high[/size] and varied temperatures and people taking their own life.
my bad, but climate change includes the earth generally getting hotter.


i dont even know what your point is any more
i was asked to provide literature and i did. i could provide more if i looked further, but its needless.

since redkat has gone AWOL i'll ask you the same question...

is depression a leading cause of suicide? yes or no?
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ricecrackers wrote:
tbitm wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
tbitm wrote:
You might need to re-read your article. Hotter weather changes human behaviour where they saw an increase in suicides depending on the month. There's also a correlation between violence and hotter weather so it's not too surprising to read those results. No-where in that article did they say it was fear of global warming though. :lol:


you're moving the goalposts to global warming when the discussion was about "climate change"
dont think i didnt notice [-x

Quote:
Climate change linked to increase in Australia’s suicide rates

A QUT researcher is predicting suicide rates will rise as a result of climate change after finding a link between [size=9]high[/size] and varied temperatures and people taking their own life.
my bad, but climate change includes the earth generally getting hotter.


i dont even know what your point is any more
i was asked to provide literature and i did. i could provide more if i looked further, but its needless.

since redkat has gone AWOL i'll ask you the same question...

?


And I could find literature saying you're a fucking idiot, but It's needless, I know it exists, take my word for it. People who say otherwise are just brainwashed sheep, I pity them.
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Global warming and climate change are synonimous. And in your quote from the article it mentions exactly that. That's my point.

Sure, I'll say yes. I don't see where this is going though.

Edited by tbitm: 2/6/2014 01:54:33 AM

Edited by tbitm: 2/6/2014 01:55:16 AM
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