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ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make. i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head just my opinion though And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary. biology bloggers? If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong. So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand.
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afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make. i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head just my opinion though And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary. biology bloggers? If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong. So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand. we are going into a cooling cycle there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years
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ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make. i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head just my opinion though And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary. biology bloggers? If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong. So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand. we are going into a cooling cycle there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years *insert graphs and evidence here* -PB
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ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make. i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head just my opinion though And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary. biology bloggers? If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong. So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand. we are going into a cooling cycle there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years You obviously know what you are talking about. I would love to read your peer reviewed papers on the subject so I can get better informed, or maybe you can point me towards the various journals and scientific institutes that have published your work.
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The biggest issue is that at present there are massive heat sinks in the Antarctic, the Arctic and the world's oceans that are soaking up the majority of warming for the time being. By way of analogy if you put a glass of hot water in a chest freezer full of ice to reach equilibrium there will be a massive drop in the temperature of the water in the glass and only a slight, almost imperceptible, raising in the overall temperature of the "system". Put that same glass in an empty freezer and the temperature of the "system" will rise, in magnitude, many times more compared to the former example. The issue will be what happens after the earth loses it's ability to soak up the constant input of heat. The problem is it is hundreds of years from happening hence Crackers and the rest of them.
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afromanGT
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ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make. i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head just my opinion though And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary. biology bloggers? If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong. So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand. we are going into a cooling cycle there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years We're in a cooling phase at the moment http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19729653
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Munrubenmuz wrote:The biggest issue is that at present there are massive heat sinks in the Antarctic, the Arctic and the world's oceans that are soaking up the majority of warming for the time being.
By way of analogy if you put a glass of hot water in a chest freezer full of ice to reach equilibrium there will be a massive drop in the temperature of the water in the glass and only a slight, almost imperceptible, raising in the overall temperature of the "system".
Put that same glass in an empty freezer and the temperature of the "system" will rise, in magnitude, many times more compared to the former example.
The issue will be what happens after the earth loses it's ability to soak up the constant input of heat. The problem is it is hundreds of years from happening hence Crackers and the rest of them. you people have a bullshit explanation for when your predictions continue to fail credibility is non existent
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afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make. i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head just my opinion though And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary. biology bloggers? If the earth's orbit and Milankovitch Cycles were responsible for a change in climate as you've previously attempted to contend then the fact that we're going through what should be, according to the theory, a cooling stage in the cycle instead of the global increase in temperatures means that you're just outright wrong. So shut up and stop spouting bullshit you don't even understand. we are going into a cooling cycle there is no warming. there has been no warming for 15 years We're in a cooling phase at the moment http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19729653 we're going into a cool phase this is the end of the warming period comprehension fails you for the nth time your data ends at 2000. um that'd be 14 years ago right? Edited by ricecrackers: 11/6/2014 01:45:45 PM
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RedKat wrote:I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this. show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years
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You do realise that you're talking about something that takes place over the course of 24,000 years and 14 years is essentially negligible, right?
The "warming phase" ended some 8,000 years ago and we're currently close to the Perigee apsis of our orbit.
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ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this. show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years The claim: that the sun is the most influential thing in climate change. The claim was made by you. The onus is upon YOU to produce evidence.
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afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this. show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years The claim: that the sun is the most influential thing in climate change. The claim was made by you. The onus is upon YOU to produce evidence. you claimed that the sun wasnt the most influential factor on the earth's climate seriously, you claimed that smack yourself in the head (twice)
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lets just remove the sun altogether then
what kind of climate do you think the earth will have then afrodope?
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ricecrackers wrote:lets just remove the sun altogether then
what kind of climate do you think the earth will have then afrodope? Are you fucking shitting me? Nobody can be this stupid. Just kill yourself. Seriously.
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afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:lets just remove the sun altogether then
what kind of climate do you think the earth will have then afrodope? Are you fucking shitting me? Nobody can be this stupid. Just kill yourself. Seriously. well I thought nobody could be that stupid until I met you afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:Im not claiming it as proof of an argument. Rather as a way of showing some of the stupidity on the matter with an interesting conclusion. Not like Im using it to prove a point which it doesnt make. i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head just my opinion though And obviously you know better than the various expert scientists that speak to the contrary. Edited by ricecrackers: 11/6/2014 02:05:47 PM
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feeling stupid afrodope?
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ricecrackers wrote:i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head original claim right there. Evidence or GTFO.
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afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head original claim right there. Evidence or GTFO. you want me to provide evidence that the sun is the largest influence on the earth's climate? are you fucking kidding me? :lol:
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ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i think anyone that claims the sun isn't the largest influence on the earth's climate has rocks in their head original claim right there. Evidence or GTFO. you want me to provide evidence that the sun is the largest influence on the earth's climate? are you fucking kidding me? :lol: The earth is the biggest influence on the earth's climate. No earth means no climate for the sun to impact on. #ricecrackerslogic
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afrodope, do yourself a favour next time before you post write it down on a piece of paper instead, screw up it then throw it in the bin
you'll feel like you've responded but you wont suffer the embarrassment
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Yeah, good rebuttal. You've been schooled and have nothing. Shut up.
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ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this. show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years :-"
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Show us your evidence that there's no anthropogenic climate change.
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RedKat wrote:ricecrackers wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this. show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years :-" The 10883 peer reviewed scientific papers out of 10885 on the matter published in 2013 alone? So in other words any who has any actual scientific grasp of the matter and I hate to break it to you those 10883 papers were all published by people who know a lot more about the matter than you. Now wheres your evidence? *anticipates that if evidence is given itll be from flatearthers.org or climatechangeskeptics.com* Don't be ridiculous, ricecrackers doesn't need evidence. It's beneath his dignity. You should just believe everything he says.
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RedKat wrote:ricecrackers wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this. show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years :-" The 10883 peer reviewed scientific papers out of 10885 on the matter published in 2013 alone? So in other words any who has any actual scientific grasp of the matter and I hate to break it to you those 10883 papers were all published by people who know a lot more about the matter than you. Now wheres your evidence? *anticipates that if evidence is given itll be from flatearthers.org or climatechangeskeptics.com* thats not evidence, thats hearsay show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years
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ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:ricecrackers wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:I think its well established that ricecrackers doesnt believe in this thing called evidence and somehow believes he knows better than people who've actually studied this. show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years :-" The 10883 peer reviewed scientific papers out of 10885 on the matter published in 2013 alone? So in other words any who has any actual scientific grasp of the matter and I hate to break it to you those 10883 papers were all published by people who know a lot more about the matter than you. Now wheres your evidence? *anticipates that if evidence is given itll be from flatearthers.org or climatechangeskeptics.com* thats not evidence, thats hearsay show me your evidence there has been warming for the past 15 years Further reading
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1. I didnt ask you afrodope. You've demonstrated already that you have no idea.
2. You can draw a trendline anywhere you want to spin a lie however an accurate trendline for that last period would be horizontal. Look at it again and think hard about how you've been duped. I'm not interested in your response, so dont bother replying to me.
oh and...
3. Please stop posting/referring to the disgraced and discredited "skeptical science" to back up your points.
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Evidence there's climate change: 1 article with over 30 sources and 8 different graphs and charts.
ricecrackers' evidence that there's no climate change: none.
Wonder which one I should believe...
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RedKat wrote:ricecrackers wrote:1. I didnt ask you afrodope. You've demonstrated already that you have no idea.
2. You can draw a trendline anywhere you want to spin a lie however an accurate trendline for that last period would be horizontal. Look at it again and think hard about how you've been duped. I'm not interested in your response, so dont bother replying to me. And your evidence? And no you cant draw a trendline 'anywhere.' Theres actually a way to work out the formula for the trendline. yes you can draw a trendline anywhere to dupe the masses. the above example certainly didnt follow any mathematical formula. have you found your evidence yet or are you still trawling through biology blogger posts?
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RedKat wrote:ricecrackers wrote:RedKat wrote:ricecrackers wrote:1. I didnt ask you afrodope. You've demonstrated already that you have no idea.
2. You can draw a trendline anywhere you want to spin a lie however an accurate trendline for that last period would be horizontal. Look at it again and think hard about how you've been duped. I'm not interested in your response, so dont bother replying to me. And your evidence? And no you cant draw a trendline 'anywhere.' Theres actually a way to work out the formula for the trendline. yes you can draw a trendline anywhere to dupe the masses. the above example certainly didnt follow any mathematical formula. have you found your evidence yet or are you still trawling through biology blogger posts? But an actual trendline, following linear regression or another method, is accurately mathematical. Scientific data would have to be accurate and so would use an accurate trendline. And yes I mentioned evidence which youve rejected simply because you cant negate it. And since you have no actual proper scientific evidence from anyone with actual understanding of this (might pull up a medical historian or arts graduate again if you do pull up evidence) you'll keep denying what I up and argue that the burden of proof is still on me, despite all the actual evidence being on my side of this argument. you havent produced a scrap of evidence, nothing you just talk about nebulous hearsay and link to opinion pieces
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