RedKat = the copy and paste expert with no scientific knowledge at all

RedKat thinks science is a vote

imagine if all the scientific discoveries man as ever made were settled without evidence, but by a vote
we'd still be under the impression the earth was flat

and that is what this climate alarmism is tantamount too. trying to convince us of a flat earth

ricey getting destroyed :lol:

-PB

Not for the first time.

Hahahaha youre so hypocritical its just funny to read. Youre so caught up in your own conspiracy theories and your pseudoscience that every post you make just shows your ignorance even further.



Yup. So much wrong with most of his posts that I cant get through it all. There he is again straw manning my very strong argument into something easier for him to attack. Ive said numerous times if the weight of scientific evidence one day arrives at a different consensus, then science and myself will change, but when there is so so much evidence for one side only the most tunnelled visioned, scientific ignorant would think otherwise. See the difference between scientists and rice is science doesnt start with an opinion its trying to prove, it lets the evidence decide its opinion.

I see rice as one of those people who were still clinging to the earth is the centre of the universe people many hundreds of years after the scientific evidence had proved time and time again it isnt.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The saying ignorance is bliss has never been more appropriate than in your case



But keep shouting the 'NO WARMING FOR 17 YEARS I KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE WHO RESEARCHES THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WHICH EVIDENCE I NEED TO IGNORE TO SUIT MY OWN AGENDA. I DONT NEED ALL THE OTHER EVIDENCE I JUST NEED THE BIT THAT SUITS ME'

Just to jump in for a minute here. No one seriously believed the world to be flat. It was a construct of the secular movement in the late 1800's used to discredit religious fundamentalists opposed to evolution.

Just thought I'd point that out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

But anyway, carry on.

Crackers, holding others to account on standards he refuses to meet himself.

what do you think the consensus among the cavemen was?

did I say anything about the middle ages?

you make a lot of assumptions you know. not very scientific, but carry on.

Rookie error on your part but understandable given most people believe that those in the past believed the earth was flat.

Nice try at wriggling out of your ignorant statement though, not that I sledged you for it in any case, by referring to cavemen of all people.

Until you accept that the comment 'theres been no warming for 17 years and nothing else matters' comment is flawed because it doesnt take into account all the evidence (because you know how science always looks for limitations of any study) and account for those theres no point falling for your tricks again and answering your questions while you ignore everything I raise.

i'm not the one with an agenda, you are. you cultists are going to fuck up the world with all of this crap.

again I put a direct question to you, how could your models be so wrong?

are you going to avoid that issue too?

Mind if I ask a question, specifically related to the part I have bolded?

How exactly is people wanting to reduce emissions and find clean sources of energy going to "Fuck up the world"?

Now I have made the assumption that "this crap" you speak of is, due to the title of this thread and the conversation related therein, is infact the idea that we need to move to clean forms of energy to save the world.

So again, why, even if we acknowledge that the world doesn't need saving, is the move towards clean energy and away from coal and fossil fuels a bad thing?

1. there is no such thing as clean energy. its a fantasy
2. attempts to artificially reduce carbon emissions are economic and all involve lowering our living standard via either taxes or raising the cost of fuel

whenever you significantly raise the cost of living, people at the lower end die.
whenever you destroy an economy, more people die

to put it simply because i'm tired of arguing this crap with morons on this forum

to put it simply because i'm tired of arguing this crap with morons on this forum

1. there is no such thing as clean energy. its a fantasy
2. attempts to artificially reduce carbon emissions are economic and all involve lowering our living standard via either taxes or raising the cost of fuel

whenever you significantly raise the cost of living, people at the lower end die.
whenever you destroy an economy, more people die

to put it simply because i'm tired of arguing this crap with morons on this forum

this is where your argument hits a brick wall, since you seem to believe in peak oil
if oil runs out then the problem of climate change will solve itself. no tax required.

solar panels are heavily subsidized
the energy companies will never allow you to be self sufficient
dream on

solar panels are heavily subsidized
the energy companies will never allow you to be self sufficient
dream on

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/june-a-global-scorcher-as-records-melt-20140722-zvhzq.html

More lies and non evidence hey Crackers.
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Last month was a scorcher for global temperatures with warmth over land and sea breaking records for June while sea-surface temperatures posted their largest departure from long-term averages for any month.

Combined average temperatures over land and sea were 0.72 degrees above the 20th century average of 15.5 degrees, making it the hottest June and adding to the record May and equal record April, according to the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

More striking for climatologists, though, were the sea-surface temperatures. These came in 0.64 degrees above the 20th century average of 16.4 degrees – the first time any month had exceeded the long-run norm by more than 0.6 degrees.

Parts of all major ocean basins notched their warmest June, with almost all the Indian Ocean and regions off south-eastern Australia the hottest on record.

An El Nino event remains about a 70 per cent chance of forming during the northern summer, which could see more records tumble. The weather pattern sees the central and eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean becoming relatively warm compared with western regions, and typically brings hotter, drier than usual conditions to south-east Asia and Australia.

Australia posted its hottest 12 months on record in the year to June, while 2013 was the hottest calendar year in more than a century of records, according to the Bureau of Meteorology.

While June was another month of above-average temperatures, Western Australia and the Northern Territory were cooler than normal – breaking a sequence begun in February in which every state or territory had above-average warmth, NOAA noted.

June was the 352nd month when global temperatures were above the 20th century average – with the last below-average month in February 1985 when
Bob Hawke was in his first term as Prime Minister and Ronald Reagan in his second-term in the White House.
Minor cool snap

Apart from a cool snap over the past few days, cities such as Sydney and Melbourne are continuing their run of above-average conditions with temperatures likely to again edge up over the coming week.

So far this year, above-average maximums in Sydney are running at about 2.5-to-one compared with cooler-than-usual weather, according to the Bureau of Meteorology.

In the first half of the year, Sydney had 162 days of 20 degrees or warmer conditions, easily ahead of the previous record in 2004 of 157.

After tops of 18 on Tuesday and Wednesday, Sydney can expect 20-21 degree days out to next Monday, with little more than the odd shower over the period. Maximums for the city are running about 2 degrees above the July average of 16.3 degrees so far this month.
Melbourne’s maximums in July have been closer to the long-run average of 13.5 degrees. Aside from a top of 14 degrees forecast for Tuesday and again on Friday, other days should be in the 15-17 range, according to the bureau.

Climate scientists say man-made emissions of greenhouse gases are trapping more solar heat and leading to the global warming that increasing the likelihood that hot rather than cold records will be broken.

The first half of the year tied 2002 as the third-warmest on record for land and sea-surface temperatures, NOAA said.

solar panels are heavily subsidized
the energy companies will never allow you to be self sufficient
dream on