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			    What's this about some Perth Engineer dude who discovered a mathematical based reason that climate change is false? -PB                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    benelsmore wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:All time record temperature for the first week of October in Melbourne today. Tomorrow, the record set today is going to be broken. So sad what is happening to the planet - 'Boiling a frog'  :lol: 1 hot week and it's the bloody apocalypse for you tree huggers :lol:    And the all time record set yesterday, is now broken today My guess is that because right wingers have been shown in research to be more fearful people (both in psychological & neuroscientific research), when it comes to global warming, the reason right wingers again comprise the bulk of global warming denial, is because their fear mechanism response is denial, as it is too overwhelming for them otherwise.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    paulbagzFC wrote:What's this about some Perth Engineer dude who discovered a mathematical based reason that climate change is false?
  -PB  Not sure that I would be relying an engineer's non-peer reviewed opinion over a climate statistician, climatologist or atmospheric physicist.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    paulbagzFC wrote:What's this about some Perth Engineer dude who discovered a mathematical based reason that climate change is false?
  -PB  his work has been debunked already and he's a whacko conspiracy theorist https://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/climate-sceptic-conspiracies/profile-dr-david-evans/and here he's ripped apart ... http://www.skepticalscience.com/david-evans-understanding-goes-cold.htmlEdited by trident: 6/10/2015 04:58:25 PM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:benelsmore wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:All time record temperature for the first week of October in Melbourne today. Tomorrow, the record set today is going to be broken. So sad what is happening to the planet - 'Boiling a frog'  :lol: 1 hot week and it's the bloody apocalypse for you tree huggers :lol:    And the all time record set yesterday, is now broken today My guess is that because right wingers have been shown in research to be more fearful people (both in psychological & neuroscientific research), when it comes to global warming, the reason right wingers again comprise the bulk of global warming denial, is because their fear mechanism response is denial, as it is too overwhelming for them otherwise.  You are the full definition of a leftard. You continue to formulate fanciful assumptions about people you clearly have no idea about. Good work Ricey! :lol:                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    benelsmore wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:benelsmore wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:All time record temperature for the first week of October in Melbourne today. Tomorrow, the record set today is going to be broken. So sad what is happening to the planet - 'Boiling a frog'  :lol: 1 hot week and it's the bloody apocalypse for you tree huggers :lol:    And the all time record set yesterday, is now broken today My guess is that because right wingers have been shown in research to be more fearful people (both in psychological & neuroscientific research), when it comes to global warming, the reason right wingers again comprise the bulk of global warming denial, is because their fear mechanism response is denial, as it is too overwhelming for them otherwise.  You are the full definition of a leftard. You continue to formulate fanciful assumptions about people you clearly have no idea about. Good work Ricey! :lol:   One thing I notice about right wingers is the stark contrast in the dearth of evidence and structured logic to support a position on a particular issue. Here is some more research that might suggest why: Quote:Low-Effort Thought Promotes Political Conservatism Abstract The authors test the hypothesis that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism. In Study 1, alcohol intoxication was measured among bar patrons; as blood alcohol level increased, so did political conservatism (controlling for sex, education, and political identification). In Study 2, participants under cognitive load reported more conservative attitudes than their no-load counterparts. In Study 3, time pressure increased participants’ endorsement of conservative terms. In Study 4, participants considering political terms in a cursory manner endorsed conservative terms more than those asked to cogitate; an indicator of effortful thought (recognition memory) partially mediated the relationship between processing effort and conservatism.  Together these data suggest that political conservatism may be a process consequence of low-effort thought; when effortful, deliberate thought is disengaged, endorsement of conservative ideology increases.http://psp.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/03/16/0146167212439213.abstract Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 6/10/2015 05:27:33 PM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:benelsmore wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:benelsmore wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:All time record temperature for the first week of October in Melbourne today. Tomorrow, the record set today is going to be broken. So sad what is happening to the planet - 'Boiling a frog'  :lol: 1 hot week and it's the bloody apocalypse for you tree huggers :lol:    And the all time record set yesterday, is now broken today My guess is that because right wingers have been shown in research to be more fearful people (both in psychological & neuroscientific research), when it comes to global warming, the reason right wingers again comprise the bulk of global warming denial, is because their fear mechanism response is denial, as it is too overwhelming for them otherwise.  You are the full definition of a leftard. You continue to formulate fanciful assumptions about people you clearly have no idea about. Good work Ricey! :lol:   One thing I notice about right wingers is the stark contrast in the dearth of evidence and structured logic to support a position on a particular issue. Here is some more research that might suggest why: Quote:Low-Effort Thought Promotes Political Conservatism Abstract The authors test the hypothesis that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism. In Study 1, alcohol intoxication was measured among bar patrons; as blood alcohol level increased, so did political conservatism (controlling for sex, education, and political identification). In Study 2, participants under cognitive load reported more conservative attitudes than their no-load counterparts. In Study 3, time pressure increased participants’ endorsement of conservative terms. In Study 4, participants considering political terms in a cursory manner endorsed conservative terms more than those asked to cogitate; an indicator of effortful thought (recognition memory) partially mediated the relationship between processing effort and conservatism.  Together these data suggest that political conservatism may be a process consequence of low-effort thought; when effortful, deliberate thought is disengaged, endorsement of conservative ideology increases.http://psp.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/03/16/0146167212439213.abstract Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 6/10/2015 05:27:33 PM :lol:                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:benelsmore wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:benelsmore wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:All time record temperature for the first week of October in Melbourne today. Tomorrow, the record set today is going to be broken. So sad what is happening to the planet - 'Boiling a frog'  :lol: 1 hot week and it's the bloody apocalypse for you tree huggers :lol:    And the all time record set yesterday, is now broken today My guess is that because right wingers have been shown in research to be more fearful people (both in psychological & neuroscientific research), when it comes to global warming, the reason right wingers again comprise the bulk of global warming denial, is because their fear mechanism response is denial, as it is too overwhelming for them otherwise.  You are the full definition of a leftard. You continue to formulate fanciful assumptions about people you clearly have no idea about. Good work Ricey! :lol:   One thing I notice about right wingers is the stark contrast in the dearth of evidence and structured logic to support a position on a particular issue. Here is some more research that might suggest why: Quote:Low-Effort Thought Promotes Political Conservatism
  Abstract The authors test the hypothesis that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism. In Study 1, alcohol intoxication was measured among bar patrons; as blood alcohol level increased, so did political conservatism (controlling for sex, education, and political identification). In Study 2, participants under cognitive load reported more conservative attitudes than their no-load counterparts. In Study 3, time pressure increased participants’ endorsement of conservative terms. In Study 4, participants considering political terms in a cursory manner endorsed conservative terms more than those asked to cogitate; an indicator of effortful thought (recognition memory) partially mediated the relationship between processing effort and conservatism. Together these data suggest that political conservatism may be a process consequence of low-effort thought; when effortful, deliberate thought is disengaged, endorsement of conservative ideology increases.   The hilarious and almost sad thing is that you continue to perpetuate fully serious retorts about right wing political view points to less than serious responses. You know Ricey, when you enter the big bad world after university, someone is going to rip you to shreds. I'm sure every graduate on this forum has been shredded for being an uppity greeny. Your turn will come :)                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    I thought Ricey was perma-banned?  Rags doesnt seem like him.   :-k                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    trident wrote:I thought Ricey was perma-banned?  Rags doesnt seem like him.   :-k   I'm not 'Ricey'.  I'm just me.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Yeah I hadn't read into it at all, just saw it pop up on the olde FB feed. -PB                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Quote:Warming of 1.5 to 2 degrees Celsius above current levels could lead to "unstoppable" sea level rise that would last for thousands of years, according to a new model of Antarctic ice sheets. The new model, published today in Nature, shows that such temperatures would result in 80 to 85 per cent loss of major Antarctic ice shelves, something that is possible by the end of the century under existing IPCC scenarios. Collapse of the ice shelves would trigger a rapid melt of the Antarctic ice sheets, releasing vast amounts of Earth's freshwater stores into the ocean, said the researchers. By 2100 this would add up to 40 centimetres to sea levels, melt rate would continue to accelerate until 2300, and sea levels would continue to rise after that for thousands of years...... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-15/antarctic-ice-shelf-sea-level-rise-warning/6853780                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Christian right wing nutjob republican Ted Cruz big oil guy is completely owned here by Sierra Club President
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			    How so? The article confirms all previous assumptions about climate change and states that the increase in snow basically means the square root of fuck all                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Scotch&Coke wrote:How so? The article confirms all previous assumptions about climate change and states that the increase in snow basically means the square root of fuck all  I was always told through high school and uni that the polar ice caps were melting away to nothing. So they're not. Doesn't change climate change/rising sea levels but its still an interesting development.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    No it's not. Been known about for ages. BTW, news.com.au is owned by Murdoch, a well known global warming denier and arguably one of the biggest contributors to the planet's demise through manipulating society via media spin. You can tell in the opening paragraph by the spin that needs to be put on the issue for the right wing ends, with the faux qualification of science a couple of paragraphs later. Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 6/11/2015 06:57:29 AM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    2015 now virtually certain to be the hottest year on record (only a Krakatoa sized volcanic eruption would stop it by blocking out the sun) The previous hottest? 2014 9 of the 10 hottest? 21st century
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			    Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:No it's not. Been known about for ages. BTW, news.com.au is owned by Murdoch, a well known global warming denier and arguably one of the biggest contributors to the planet's demise through manipulating society via media spin. You can tell in the opening paragraph by the spin that needs to be put on the issue for the right wing ends, with the faux qualification of science a couple of paragraphs later. Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 6/11/2015 06:57:29 AM You're the biggest tool on the planet. Sorry that something I found interesting and decided to post isn't a peer reviewed article from a scientific journal :roll:                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:2015 now virtually certain to be the hottest year on record (only a Krakatoa sized volcanic eruption would stop it by blocking out the sun) The previous hottest? 2014 9 of the 10 hottest? 21st century
  Thanks right wing voters. The planet is grateful for your wilful ignorance.  CSIRO report just released has found that still, in the year 2015, approx 75% of right wing voters in Austalia deny anthropogenic global warming                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    ah the old Antarctic ice growing not shrinking myth thats been thoroughly debunked on skepticalscience                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    trident wrote:ah the old Antarctic ice growing not shrinking myth thats been thoroughly debunked on skepticalscience  So Nasa got it all wrong ?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    lukerobinho wrote:trident wrote:ah the old Antarctic ice growing not shrinking myth thats been thoroughly debunked on skepticalscience  So Nasa got it all wrong ?   No but the far-right scientifically illiterate nutters News Ltd employs like Andrew Bolt have because they deliberately twist results of a regional study and dumb it down so they can bleat like sheep "more cold stuff = no global warming" :roll:  and preach their grand conspiracy theories like the worldwide scientific community is using AGW as plot to take over the world :lol:.    If you read the whole article there's nothing in this new study that disputes AGW, while the increase in ice in East Antartica is something that has been known for a long time and doesn't conflict with AGW either. As was stated in the article "They also said that Antarctica was likely to gain mass because the warming world would create greater snowfall."  It's basic physics that a warm(ing) air mass can hold more moisture and so there's a greater amount of precipitation.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Jeff W wrote:lukerobinho wrote:trident wrote:ah the old Antarctic ice growing not shrinking myth thats been thoroughly debunked on skepticalscience  So Nasa got it all wrong ?   No but the far-right scientifically illiterate nutters News Ltd employs like Andrew Bolt have because they deliberately twist results of a regional study and dumb it down so they can bleat like sheep "more cold stuff = no global warming" :roll:  and preach their grand conspiracy theories like the worldwide scientific community is using AGW as plot to take over the world :lol:.    If you read the whole article there's nothing in this new study that disputes AGW, while the increase in ice in East Antartica is something that has been known for a long time and doesn't conflict with AGW either. As was stated in the article "They also said that Antarctica was likely to gain mass because the warming world would create greater snowfall."  It's basic physics that a warm(ing) air mass can hold more moisture and so there's a greater amount of precipitation.   well said, and couple that with the rising sea levels from all that additional precipitation and we have a real problem on our hands                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:2015 now virtually certain to be the hottest year on record (only a Krakatoa sized volcanic eruption would stop it by blocking out the sun) The previous hottest? 2014 9 of the 10 hottest? 21st century
  Thanks right wing voters. The planet is grateful for your wilful ignorance.  CSIRO report just released has found that still, in the year 2015, approx 75% of right wing voters in Austalia deny anthropogenic global warming   :lol:  Another CSIRO report has found that uppity left-wing voters drink too much coffee paid for by Centrelink :lol: Disclaimer: This is a joke, please recognise this fact before responding.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:2015 now virtually certain to be the hottest year on record (only a Krakatoa sized volcanic eruption would stop it by blocking out the sun) The previous hottest? 2014 9 of the 10 hottest? 21st century
  Thanks right wing voters. The planet is grateful for your wilful ignorance.  CSIRO report just released has found that still, in the year 2015, approx 75% of right wing voters in Austalia deny anthropogenic global warming   :lol:  Another CSIRO report has found that uppity left-wing voters drink too much coffee paid for by Centrelink :lol: Disclaimer: This is a joke, please recognise this fact before responding.   Right wing voters think Sarah Palin is intellectual, the earth came into being 6,000 years ago and that Barack Obama is the antichrist. I'm not joking :idea:                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    More ice = global warming Less ice = global warming                
			    				
			     
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			    Munrubenmuz wrote:More ice = global warming Less ice = global warming  Science, 101.....                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Munrubenmuz wrote:More ice = global warming Less ice = global warming  Thank you Andrew Bolt. More ice  regionally != no global warming Less ice  globally = global warming                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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