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notorganic wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:The more I read Notor's view on here, the more it sounds like the woman's role in a biblical marriage. How so? I'm getting a 'husband taking the lead' vibe a fair bit. Not a total domination of opinion and decision, but certainly a view of male leadership that seems to have bee lost in a progressively liberal society.
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mcjules
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Eastern Glory wrote:notorganic wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:The more I read Notor's view on here, the more it sounds like the woman's role in a biblical marriage. How so? I'm getting a 'husband taking the lead' vibe a fair bit. Not a total domination of opinion and decision, but certainly a view of male leadership that seems to have bee lost in a progressively liberal society. I don't think it's a biblical marriage thing more cultural. As much as many of us try to adhere to the ideal of "equal rights", the gender roles are deeply ingrained in our society. It's maybe a lot more subtle than it used to be but it's there and influences us all just not all to the same extent. I'm happy that notorganic has improved his marriage by taking some ideas from the red pill but the sweeping generalisations about people is what I don't accept. Figuring out what both parties in a relationship want and working at it together is what happens in all successful relationships, just what those things are is different for everyone.
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notorganic
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Eastern Glory wrote:notorganic wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:The more I read Notor's view on here, the more it sounds like the woman's role in a biblical marriage. How so? I'm getting a 'husband taking the lead' vibe a fair bit. Not a total domination of opinion and decision, but certainly a view of male leadership that seems to have bee lost in a progressively liberal society. Not sure how that equates to being biblical. I know that people like to pretend that sexual dimorphism doesn't exist, but burying the head in the sand doesn't help a thing. Mcjules, what sweeping generalisations have been made?
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mcjules
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notorganic wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:notorganic wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:The more I read Notor's view on here, the more it sounds like the woman's role in a biblical marriage. How so? I'm getting a 'husband taking the lead' vibe a fair bit. Not a total domination of opinion and decision, but certainly a view of male leadership that seems to have bee lost in a progressively liberal society. Not sure how that equates to being biblical. I know that people like to pretend that sexual dimorphism doesn't exist, but burying the head in the sand doesn't help a thing. Mcjules, what sweeping generalisations have been made? Sweeping was a bit of hyperbole but I do feel you're reinforcing gender stereotypes in your statements. They have their place of course as it exists in our society (as per previous post). However the effect isn't uniform and the hard and fast rules like "the woman should be like the first mate" are not always helpful. Anyway I suspect due to the use of the term "sexual dimorphism" that you believe that these behaviours largely come down to genetics? Not something I really agree with but it doesn't mean what works for you and your wife is wrong.
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damonzzzz
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In relation to a child's up bringing and based on the average family. Do you believe the extra financial stability of women working full time hours is preferable to the mother being home for a child both before and after school.
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Bowden
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How many red pills per day would you recommend me taking?
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notorganic
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damonzzzz wrote:In relation to a child's up bringing and based on the average family. Do you believe the extra financial stability of women working full time hours is preferable to the mother being home for a child both before and after school. For school age kids, yes the extra financial stability of dual incomes is preferable provided that the after-school care is appropriate. For anything younger, studies suggest (with some controversy) that anything more than 20 hours per week in daycare/childcare brings about similar responses in young children to total abandonment. When selecting which parent is to become the primary caregiver during those times (ie: someone to either stop working or go part time), it's usually the mother for the following reason: Most women choose to take time off to be the primary caregiver when they become mothers Most women choose fields of study and careers that pay less Social stigma that fathers are poor parents This is also why the oft-quoted pay gap is largely bullshit. It's entirely built around choice, which is a consequence of equality of opportunity. Bowden wrote:How many red pills per day would you recommend me taking? You only need to take it once.
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notorganic
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mcjules wrote:Anyway I suspect due to the use of the term "sexual dimorphism" that you believe that these behaviours largely come down to genetics? A mixture of genetics and generations of women being told they can do no wrong, sure.
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mcjules
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notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:Anyway I suspect due to the use of the term "sexual dimorphism" that you believe that these behaviours largely come down to genetics? A mixture of genetics and generations of women being told they can do no wrong, sure. And that's why these "movements" get criticized.
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notorganic
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mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:Anyway I suspect due to the use of the term "sexual dimorphism" that you believe that these behaviours largely come down to genetics? A mixture of genetics and generations of women being told they can do no wrong, sure. And that's why these "movements" get criticized. For expecting that women be held to the same standards as men? Bit sexist, isn't it?
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mcjules
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notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:Anyway I suspect due to the use of the term "sexual dimorphism" that you believe that these behaviours largely come down to genetics? A mixture of genetics and generations of women being told they can do no wrong, sure. And that's why these "movements" get criticized. For expecting that women be held to the same standards as men? Bit sexist, isn't it? Knew that would be the response. I already said gender roles and their expectations are different in our society. You didn't have to specifically point out something that's an issue with women but yet you did. Doing that gives the impression you are blaming women exclusively. It may not be the case in your mind but it's projected that way.
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notorganic
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mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:Anyway I suspect due to the use of the term "sexual dimorphism" that you believe that these behaviours largely come down to genetics? A mixture of genetics and generations of women being told they can do no wrong, sure. And that's why these "movements" get criticized. For expecting that women be held to the same standards as men? Bit sexist, isn't it? Knew that would be the response. I already said gender roles and their expectations are different in our society. You didn't have to specifically point out something that's an issue with women but yet you did. Doing that gives the impression you are blaming women exclusively. It may not be the case in your mind but it's projected that way. Where did I project that I was blaming women? Saying 'women are told they can do no wrong' is not laying blame at the feet of women, it's being critical of society as a whole.
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mcjules
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notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:Anyway I suspect due to the use of the term "sexual dimorphism" that you believe that these behaviours largely come down to genetics? A mixture of genetics and generations of women being told they can do no wrong, sure. And that's why these "movements" get criticized. For expecting that women be held to the same standards as men? Bit sexist, isn't it? Knew that would be the response. I already said gender roles and their expectations are different in our society. You didn't have to specifically point out something that's an issue with women but yet you did. Doing that gives the impression you are blaming women exclusively. It may not be the case in your mind but it's projected that way. Where did I project that I was blaming women? Saying 'women are told they can do no wrong' is not laying blame at the feet of women, it's being critical of society as a whole. I already explained.
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notorganic
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Except that I didn't make it specifically about women, you did. You may have misread or misinterpreted what I said, but that's what questions are for.
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mcjules
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notorganic wrote:Except that I didn't make it specifically about women, you did. You may have misread or misinterpreted what I said, but that's what questions are for. And all I did was point out that what you wrote will be interpreted this way (even if it wasn't your intention) and hence why it gets criticized. Time to bow out of this thread.
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notorganic
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mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:Except that I didn't make it specifically about women, you did. You may have misread or misinterpreted what I said, but that's what questions are for. And all I did was point out that what you wrote will be interpreted this way (even if it wasn't your intention) and hence why it gets criticized. Time to bow out of this thread. So things are criticised because the people that criticise either don't understand or willfully misinterpret what is being said. Sounds about right, actually. Thanks for your input in the thread.
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mcjules
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notorganic wrote:mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:Except that I didn't make it specifically about women, you did. You may have misread or misinterpreted what I said, but that's what questions are for. And all I did was point out that what you wrote will be interpreted this way (even if it wasn't your intention) and hence why it gets criticized. Time to bow out of this thread. So things are criticised because the people that criticise either don't understand or willfully misinterpret what is being said. Sounds about right, actually. Thanks for your input in the thread. If that's how you want to see it. No problem.
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I often have trouble maintaining an erection. I am 22. Should I consult a doctor?
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Without divulging to much about your personal life,
What are some of the red pill aspects that work in your relationship the most?
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humbert wrote:I often have trouble maintaining an erection. I am 22. Should I consult a doctor? Depends, does it impact your sex life? -PB
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humbert wrote:I often have trouble maintaining an erection. I am 22. Should I consult a doctor? Anyone having trouble maintaining an erection should consult a doctor, regardless of age. Pele did. Glenn - A-league Mad wrote:Without divulging to much about your personal life,
What are some of the red pill aspects that work in your relationship the most? Do you mean aspects of practice, or consequences?
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humbert
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paulbagzFC wrote:humbert wrote:I often have trouble maintaining an erection. I am 22. Should I consult a doctor? Depends, does it impact your sex life? -PB On occasion. Comes and goes.
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humbert wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:humbert wrote:I often have trouble maintaining an erection. I am 22. Should I consult a doctor? Depends, does it impact your sex life? -PB On occasion. Comes and goes.  -PB
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Notor, if you don't mind me asking, what race is your wife?
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433 wrote:Notor, if you don't mind me asking, what race is your wife? I do mind you asking.
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A true alpha and the peak of the human condition would answer that question.
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notorganic
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Troll elsewhere.
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notorganic wrote:433 wrote:Notor, if you don't mind me asking, what race is your wife? I do mind you asking. You have posted pictures with her before though.
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damonzzzz wrote:notorganic wrote:433 wrote:Notor, if you don't mind me asking, what race is your wife? I do mind you asking. You have posted pictures with her before though. So?
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notorganic wrote:damonzzzz wrote:notorganic wrote:433 wrote:Notor, if you don't mind me asking, what race is your wife? I do mind you asking. You have posted pictures with her before though. So? The thread title says "Ask a TRP anything" ;)
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