wow such a tolerant attitude on display

Dude, that was 800 years ago. He said a 1000, but he wasn't far off.

Don't get me wrong though, all religions have a violent past.

But there's one religion in particular that trumps them all for violence in the name of the religion in this century.

Lets not forget what the islamic side

Comparing 800 years ago to last week :lol:

Wow. Just Wow.

You've turned this religious debate into a dickmeasuring contest all of sudden by implying one religion is more condonable than the other simply based on a body count. You're a dickhead. The fact that a single life has been culled at all regardless of any religion is an indication that any religion that has caused death is bad...not because one has caused more deaths than the other.

You sound like an ISIS sympathiser.



Edited by SocaWho: 11/9/2014 03:39:16 PM

Stuff like this makes me happy to be an Atheist

My point was that they're both shit and open to violent interpretation.

no such thing

so much mis-interpretation

Got to love Melbourne terrace :lol: absolute clown.

People are already saying one is better than another because of an incident last week. I'm pointing out how hypocritical it is to condemn Islam as more violent than Christianity because of these recent events when Christianity has it's own violent followers in both the past and present. That logic would mean people should be condemning christianity following the Norwegian massacre because Anders Breivik was a Christian Extremiest. All loss of life is a travesty, but to blame Islam in this is lazy.

To say I sound like an ISIS supporter shows you completely missed the most basic of points. Go start another shit thread you basic fuck.

Explain

This is coming from the nutter who thought a nuclear bomb on the middle east would actually fix anything........

You contradict yourself since you present the same line of argument as the others only except in favour of Islam.

And you still look stupid because you think one religion is better than the other based on comparing the casualty list.

No one here agrees with you. #Fact

Edited by SocaWho: 11/9/2014 07:46:34 PM

Haha I get it

And i'll just leave this here: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/jihadist-radicalisation-islam-for-dummies_b_5697160.html

Edited by zimbos_05: 11/9/2014 08:26:15 PM

What a dickhead.

Ohhh, I see, so it's the Wests fault IS are going around hacking peoples heads off and committing genocide against non western minorities. I guess it wouldn't have anything with that ancient text called the Koran, or rabid psychotic preachers spreading their jihadi caliphate bullshit, or the civil unrest that's existed between sects in these regions for centuries, just single out the west for taking out the secular despot Hussein and turning the once peaceful utopia called the Middle East into a jihadi revolution.

It's sickening your apologising for these young twats going to the ME To kill innocent people and pose for photos on Facebook with decapitated heads. There's just no excuse for that kind of wickedness, but you try to spin it as if they're the poor victims, that somehow the west dropping a few bombs on Baghdad made them want to go and smite and slay completely innocent groups of people. You are seriously naive and stupid if you think the terrorist threat will go away by dealing with the "societal issues" these poor young chaps face. The main "societal issue" is they hate us because we are not Muslim, the only way to deal with the "societal issue" is to either force people to convert or kill them. It's not like by baking them some cookies or extending the hand of mate ship will turn them into good, patriotic Aussies, they hate everything about us and they believe it is their god ordained mission to create global Islamic state.

Your last comment comparing modern Christianity to present Islam is just plain retarded. As one you young ISIS chap pointed out the world changes but Islam doesn't.

Waffles.

I don't like any religion but Melbourne Terrace takes the cake by saying I missed the point when I pointed out that he was an ISIS sympathiser when all he does is find some way to justify their actions.
I dont deny Christians or anyone else has killed in the name of religion but when I smell bullshit, I tend to call them out and Melbourne Terrace is full of it.

Edited by SocaWho: 11/9/2014 09:23:56 PM

such ignorance in this thread

I also suspected he was a sympathiser and apologist for terrorist groups like Al Qaeda. Some people hate themselves and their own countries just as much as the radicals, willing victims I suppose.

Its not only that ,he thinks that there is a simple explanation to the violence that groups like ISIS carries out and its to with the West's actions and not with the religion itself , well Im still scratching my head why Al Qaeda / Taliban have resorted to blowing up Buddhist statues in Afghanistan and persecuting Buddhists as well...oh it must be the West's fault as well then.
Im not saying the West is not guilty of any atrocities that have taken place, as the Crusades is a classical example of this. But it just goes to show there are some people you can't reason with and use religion as a means of intimidation.

Edited by SocaWho: 11/9/2014 09:49:01 PM

The west in particular America is often the fall guy for when the shit hits the in
the Middle East. I suppose it's easier to accept the diabolical shambles the ME is when you can blame some western power rather than accept most of the problems are self inflicted. Not saying America isn't culpable, it's definitely fucked up but it's influence on the status quo is terribly exaggerated by groups like IS who exploit it to advance their political objectives

Im pretty neutral on this. I think America only seeks to engage in conflicts not necessarily to help the world but only where it has vested interests. I think oil is a big factor as to why it has a big presence in the Middle East and Iraq and these are not good reasons to justify an invasion. And the reason why I say vested interests is a big factor is when you look at when America sent in troops to Somalia. They stood to lose more than they could gain and ever since America have basically stayed out.

The vested interest is the industry of war.

Sorry to break up your circle jerk but congratulations, you've just gone up a notch on the nutcase rankings. Just because people looking at the factors behind terrorism beyond the simpleton approach of "hurr durr it must be islam" doesn't mean they hate their own country or they are sympathetic for actions of terrorists. The poor excuse for education, no representation of the population in government, the lack of basic supplies and the absence of any real order in the region are key blocks that lead to the creation of these violent fundamentalists. If you had everyone overnight in the middle east became Christian or Jewish, the place would still be a shithole run by dictators or inadequate democracies and violent insurgent groups would quite likely still form.

Having right wing psychopaths like you saying that ordinary Muslims just hate the west because the West aren't muslim is just fucking retarded considering plenty of young Muslims come to live in the west and actually enjoy it.

And I'd suppose Sharia law like a Taliban type run government is your cup of tea then.

Why don't you go live there then. It seems everything about Western values seems to disturb you.

Edited by SocaWho: 11/9/2014 11:33:58 PM

It takes a special type of stupid for someone to get that out of my post. You don't seem to get that I am appalled by what is happening over there, in fact your halfwit mind is just so fixated on the fact that i think there is more than simply religion at play that you actually seem to block everything else out.

I would hate to live under any religious law, let alone Sharia. I enjoy the benefits that Liberal Democracy affords me. I would love to see the day when all countries, let alone the middle east can establish their own governments with Liberal Democratic values. But don't let that get in the way of your inner bogan getting out for some time in the sun, show everyone the "If you don't like straya, then fuck off" culture is just as strong as ever amongst the plebs.