Seriously notor, people agree this video is ridiculous and the name of feminism is shit... But quoting things that feminists have said while proclaiming yourself as TRP is just as retarded. You know how you said "BUT I NEED CONTEXT WHEN SOMEONE SAYS ALL WOMEN WANT TO BE RAPED".. Well, guess what you're doing now :lol: ?

Embarrassing levels of intelligence.

I would like to see a fat ugly chick do 10 hours of walking in New York and see what happens.

Probably nothing.

If you can demonstrate context the way I did with your cherry picked quote mining, I'll be happy to retract.

Considering that you're paraphrasing the quote you mined right now shows more about embarrassing levels of intelligence than anything else, or rather the depths of your intellectual dishonesty.

I'm sure Chunky Arse would have no problem being 'harassed' by wealthy investment bankers on Wall St.

Edited by Les Gock: 1/11/2014 09:47:07 AM

The fact that you lot see feminism as a bad thing is evidence of your patriachal bullshit.

Nah.

The only bullshit is the ways in which todays feminists villify and defame anyone (particularly women) that doesn't conform to the movement, you can support and respect women without being a bloody feminist FFS.

Most intelligent level headed women I know don't consider themselves feminists and I think that's a great thing tbh.

What are feminists fighting for?

Check your fucking privilege brah.

-PB

How about just being egalitarian FFS?

Its not hard.

Who would manginas white knight then?

I guess they would all probably join PETA.

Your consistent contempt for other posters is disgusting.

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Because most of the social norms that adversely affect men are a result of sexism of the notion that machismo is how men should be.

Could you elaborate further?

Things such as men who are primary childcarers being looked down upon, both historically and and in the contemporary, because it is against the macho norm they are supposed to uphold. Discrimination amongst men to others who have less sexual experience, or lack the libido to desire as much as their peers (although that happens among women too, there's less of a confusing double standard, which in itself is an example of sexism). Looking down on football in Australian culture because it is 'wimpy, girley, not manly' and so on I think is a rather fitting example. That a culture is so macho that when men play a sport that doesn't involve crashing into each other it is looked down upon couldn't be a more poignant demonstration. Thankfully things have been changing a lot of late in that regard.

My comment was in relation to men saying they are feminists.

You make some god points though

Good write up here;

https://medium.com/message/that-catcalling-video-and-why-research-methods-is-such-an-exciting-topic-really-32223ac9c9e8

-PB

Interesting.

I think it says more about the socio-economic status of the people rather than just being "men."

The only men who are out on the street in the middle part of the day of a major city are either unemployed, homeless, delinquents, street merchants or construction workers.

I wonder the treatment she would receive if she walked into a major retail store, law firm or an office building.

They had a lady one JJJ's Hack program one day and she was talking about sexual harassment and the sort of thing that happens to girls every day and how it's generally laughed off by blokes as "you should take it as a compliment sort of thing".

She then went on to talk about more extreme cases of harassment including having blokes rub up against them on public transport and even as far as some girls having been ejaculated on whilst travelling on a bus. Guests were then invited to call in and talk about their experiences with 2 saying they had also been ejaculated on as well as a bunch of others talking about the day to day hassles they have.

Now you can go all Notorganic and say fucken blah blah excuses excuses or admit that there is a section of society (probably a sizable chunk) that finds it perfectly acceptable to sexually harass woman both overtly and casually.

I also find it curious that U448662 says that this sort of thing only happens in a low socio economic areas and that there are generally only reprobates out on the street in major CBD's during the day. (Sorry U448662 I usually see eye to eye with you on most things you post here.)

I've worked in both the Sydney and Brisbane CBD's and visited many others over the years. These places are full of business men, as well as others, anytime of the day. (Pity any girl walking past an outdoor restaurant where business blokes have been "lunching" for 2+ hours.)

It is interesting that mostly blokes on here have an opinion about this when really the only people who would know are girls that may or may not be copping it. (Perhaps the salient thing to do would be to have a chat to your sister or girlfriend and ask them for their honest opinions.)

My experience of talking to girls over the years suggests they cop a lot of unwanted attention and advances. Some laugh it off, some take it in their stride and some cop it as if it's part of what to expect if you're a girl.

As I've gotten older I've realised that I've been guilty of probably saying the wrong thing to women many times. I can't do anything about that now except try and tell my kids (and others if they care to listen) to treat women with the respect they deserve.

Nobody cares mate.

Looking forward to the next femsplaining campaign to let us all know that it's not ok to Jack off on women in public, though.

It's hardly surprising that the least empathetic person on this forum thinks this sort of behaviour is OK. (Or even that someone else may actually have a point. I suppose that's the definition of lack of empathy.)

Looking forward to the day when your daughter comes home in tears because some animal thought it was fine to harangue her based on her clothing or appearance.

a grown man listening to JJJ :lol:
no wonder your knowledge levels in the area of science are shall we say... somewhat off base

Absolutely. The video exploits racial and cultural stereotypes in order to barely make a really shitty point about sexism, it says more about the declining logical and moral trajectory of modern day feminism than it does about gender discrimination IMO.

Yeah I don't know what I was thinking. I should have linked a CNN clip with some bloke purporting to be the founder of the weather channel 32 years ago and and a "weather" expert who hasn't actually worked for said company in 31 years.

Would've been so much better.

Fuck off, Triple J has Dr. Karl. Top that. [-x

Can you point out where I have condoned anything?

And as I have repeatedly said, leave your emotionally manipulate concern trolling for people that it works on.

I liked the recent daily mail expose where they discovered that the expensive "this is what a feminist looks like" fund-raising shirts were made by women in sweatshops making less than 50c a day.

says it all

That may be true.

But this video is dominated by people from a lower socio-economic background. 80% of the clips are from one neighbourhood, Harlem.

Not that that excuses the behaviour, but there has been a sense lately that ALL men need to stop doing this, or that this is a problem for all men.

Most men are not doing it in the first place.