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bozSpur
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Lol
It's always an easy choice though:)
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Jazzmaster
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Cool. What A-league team do you like?
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bozSpur
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Glory all the way. You?
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Jazzmaster
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Live in Perth?
I'm sort of Half Roar,half Sydney,Grew up in Sydney but live in Brisbane.I can't bring myself too support a team with maroon,I've been bred to hate that colour:d So I'm waiting for Gold Coast United.
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bozSpur
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Yeah.
Lol. Can't wait for GCU and NQF to join the league. What do you think of the three Brazilians that Gold Coast have signed?
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Jazzmaster
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Pretty impressed really..the Striker sound amazing :)
Hope we can get Culina or Sterjovski though..
A few more defenders wouldn't go astray either..
Edited by jazzmaster: 17/12/2008 12:38:23 AM
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bozSpur
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Yeah, would be good to see them in the A-League. I reckon they've both got another two or three years in europe left in them though - especially Culina...
Edited by bozSpur: 17/12/2008 12:44:23 AM
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Jazzmaster
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True,be nice to get a socerroo thou..
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bozSpur
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At least Sterjovski would get regular first team football, if he wants to play at the WC then he'll need it.
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Jazzmaster
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Can't believe he can't get a game at Derby!
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bozSpur
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Even Zadkovich started both Derby matches this week!
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Peligro wrote:
Right, I'm off to bed. Jazz, yu can hold the fort til about 9am :p
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Peligro
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Morning y'all. Big MJ still endearing himself to yiddos everywhere :) Quote:[size=9]JOL: VILLA ARE BETTER THAN GUNNERS[/size]
Hamburg boss Martin Jol got in a dig at his old rivals on Tuesday as he claimed Aston Villa "are better than Arsenal".
Jol will face Villa on Wednesday night in the UEFA Cup, and the ex-Tottenham manager is predicting a tough game against a team who leap-frogged the Gunners into fourth place in the Premier League at the weekend.
Both sides have already qualified for the next round of the competition but this final group game will determine the standings and seeding for the knockout draw, and Jol is not expecting Villa to take it lightly.
"The question is whether they will play with all their regulars," he said.
"The first-team of Aston Villa are better than Arsenal and, next season, Villa will be playing in the Champions League.
"They have a very clever manager and I cannot imagine him not wanting first spot.
"Villa are perhaps one of the best teams in England."
Hamburg's director of sport Dietmar Beiersdorfer added that beating such a strong side as Villa would do his club the world of good.
"We desperately want to win this game," he said.
"It would be good for HSV's reputation on the European stage."
Jol should recall defender Guy Demel to his defence after he was suspended in the Bundesliga at the weekend while there is a doubt over the fitness of David Jarolim, who has taken a knock to his knee.
This is Hamburg's last game of 2008 before they break for almost seven weeks.
A 1-0 win over Eintracht Frankfurt on Saturday ensured they will spend the winter break lying in fourth position in the Bundesliga, just two points behind leaders Hoffenheim and Bayern Munich. At the moment is true too.
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xAragonite
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If we cared what he had to say, or he actually knew what he was talking about, he'd still be at Tottenham. :twisted:
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Jazzmaster
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I care what he has to say,he does know what he's talking about,and we all know he went well at Spurs.
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Quote:At the moment is true too. The league table says otherwise. On form perhaps. But form is temporary, class is permanent. Can spurs turn 'form' into 'class'?? Quote:we all know he went well at Spurs. If he did that well at spurs, why is he coaching Hamburg?? :-"
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Peligro
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Quote:The league table says otherwise. On form perhaps. But form is temporary, class is permanent. Can spurs turn 'form' into 'class'?? The league table doesn't say otherwise, Villa are in 4th and Le Arse in 5th. Quote:If he did that well at spurs, why is he coaching Hamburg?? Because he was sacked? If you've deluded yourself into thinking he's a shit coach after taking Spurs to 5th place in consecutive seasons then you should probably seek councelling.
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afromanGT
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Peligro wrote:Quote:The league table says otherwise. On form perhaps. But form is temporary, class is permanent. Can spurs turn 'form' into 'class'?? The league table doesn't say otherwise, Villa are in 4th and Le Arse in 5th. This week it doesn't say otherwise... Peligro wrote:Quote:If he did that well at spurs, why is he coaching Hamburg?? Because he was sacked? If you've deluded yourself into thinking he's a shit coach after taking Spurs to 5th place in consecutive seasons then you should probably seek councelling. If he was such a grand coach, he wouldn't have been sacked now would he?? I never said he was a shit coach, I just don't think he was that good a-coach. Edited by afromanGT: 17/12/2008 07:09:27 PM
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Jazzmaster
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I don't think he should have been sacked,I'll blame Commoli for that (why not :) )
Although I'm pretty happy with the current situation
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Peligro
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Quote:This week it doesn't say otherwise... Aston Villa are higher in the league table and have played better than Arsenal consistently this season. They are better at the moment. Quote:
If he was such a grand coach, he wouldn't have been sacked now would he??
I never said he was a shit coach, I just don't think he was that good a-coach.
You're working on the assumption that all managers who get sacked are bad ones? In that case, Rijkaard, Capello, Schuster, Eriksson et all aren't good managers. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but Hamburg are coming fourth with an average squad in Germany, and he took nothing more than a decent Spurs squad to their highest ever position in consecutive seasons in the prem. Why don't you rate him?
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Peligro wrote:Quote:This week it doesn't say otherwise... Aston Villa are higher in the league table and have played better than Arsenal consistently this season. They are better at the moment. Quote:
If he was such a grand coach, he wouldn't have been sacked now would he??
I never said he was a shit coach, I just don't think he was that good a-coach.
You're working on the assumption that all managers who get sacked are bad ones? In that case, Rijkaard, Capello, Schuster, Eriksson et all aren't good managers. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but Hamburg are coming fourth with an average squad in Germany, and he took nothing more than a decent Spurs squad to their highest ever position in consecutive seasons in the prem. Why don't you rate him? It's a chronic Liverpool problem. When they see a shit manager like Rafa keep his job, they instinctively rate anyone who DOES get fired, as being even shitter.:p
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Jazzmaster
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Haha, Munky, quality.
No doubt Jol is a quality coach and was good for Spurs. I spose we just got too ambitious with our expectations of him?
Edited by CharliePantou: 17/12/2008 09:07:08 PM
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Peligro wrote:You're working on the assumption that all managers who get sacked are bad ones? In that case, Rijkaard, Capello, Schuster, Eriksson et all aren't good managers. Capello's in a job... I have nothing against these Manager's, but, result's speak for themselve's, if they were winning, they'd still be at their respective club's... Peligro wrote:You're entitled to your opinion of course, but Hamburg are coming fourth with an average squad in Germany, and he took nothing more than a decent Spurs squad to their highest ever position in consecutive seasons in the prem. Why don't you rate him? I think your missing the point, still?
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Peligro
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CharliePantou wrote:Haha, Munky, quality.
No doubt Jol is a quality coach and was good for Spurs. I spose we just got too ambitious with our expectations of him?
Edited by CharliePantou: 17/12/2008 09:07:08 PM This. Pretty much comes down to Levy jumping the gun, assuming the natural progression with the same squad was 4th. When we didn't start well last season (it was only last season :shock: ) I think Levy panicked. Thanks to that we're back to were we were before Jol, albeit with 'Arry now.
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Peligro wrote:Quote:This week it doesn't say otherwise... Aston Villa are higher in the league table and have played better than Arsenal consistently this season. They are better at the moment. Quote:
If he was such a grand coach, he wouldn't have been sacked now would he??
I never said he was a shit coach, I just don't think he was that good a-coach.
You're working on the assumption that all managers who get sacked are bad ones? In that case, Rijkaard, Capello, Schuster, Eriksson et all aren't good managers. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but Hamburg are coming fourth with an average squad in Germany, and he took nothing more than a decent Spurs squad to their highest ever position in consecutive seasons in the prem. Why don't you rate him? Again, I never said he was a bad manager. I just said he wasn't good/ Rijkaard: sacked because his results weren't good enough. He spent millions but couldn't retain the title with one of the best squads going. Capello: Sacked by real madrid possibly unfairly, but the football they were playing was CRAP. Schuster: Again, Real Madrid board, what can you do?? Eriksson: The results spoke for themselves, he spent a lot of money and finished 9th, obviously not a good showing all things considered. Jarolim, Trochowski, Olic, Guerrero, Mathijsen, De Jong and Rost aren't exactly shit players either...
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Peligro
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It's ok Afro, no need to admit you're wrong.
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Jazzmaster
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[-o< And now some stability with 'Arry please Mr "Itchytriggerfinger" Levy :)
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Peligro wrote:It's ok Afro, no need to admit you're wrong. No need to coz I'm not.
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Peligro
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afromanGT wrote:Peligro wrote:It's ok Afro, no need to admit you're wrong. No need to coz I'm not. Martin Jol is a good manager. His record has proven it.
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