Great win for labour on the back of the 10% green vote - very resounding outcome.

:lol: reading my coworkers hun and the amount of whinging that labour won is hilarious :lol: also the amount of rugs =r

Can I throw said pudding at afl house ??

I think he said that it's at Etihad Stadium

where can we line up for said pudding ??

PUDDING FOR EVERYONE
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Yep nothing suss

Lol yeah well the cheaper stage two section between the Western Ring Road and Citylink overground through some current industrial and greenfield areas would have been much cheaper would have eased congestion on the Westgate (for people in safe Labor seats) and yet that was put off until next decade, after the Lib's contractors scored a few billion for the first tunnel stage to serve the other side of town. Nothing suss.

Yep and as Steve Bracks was saying on the ABC coverage last night, there's not direct correlation between the government having a surplus in it's budget with the actual economy performing well, although politicians will conflate this whenever they can.

The people who wanted the east west link were saying it'll ease congestion on the west gate bridge and are from the eastern burbs . No business case was put forward so people weren't buying it

Yep - all that stuff must have hurt down there, especially in the regional towns. It's a bit rich being told the economy is doing well when unemployment is up, and you're cutting back on TAFE at the same time. Nobody buys it.

Also credit must be given to Dan Andrews. Labor ran an excellent and disciplined campaign. It's not easy to knock off a first term government, even when there's a leadership change. Steve Bracks didn't win a majority first time up, but Andrews has, which is pretty big.

It seems the greens vote in the inner city was a message that those voters want to make absolutely sure that the east-west link is cancelled.

Ah that old chestnut of having a surplus . People get sucked in with that word alone . A surplus doesn't mean money in the bank it just means government doesn't spend until election time . Also still can't belive still believe that government debt is like house hold debt

Move to Richmond and vote for Steven Jolly then, he's a Socialist.

Maybe next time they'll run as a party.

Oh well, most Macos live in safe Labor seats in Melbourne anyway :lol:

I'l agree with that entirely.

I do have to say the election was won and lost on state issues. The Libs promised to spend five times more in Ballarat than Labor, had at least three times as much advertising in the area, yet the ALP got a seven per cent swing to them. The key thing here is employment, and in the last year alone unemployment nearly tripled. The ice problem has exploded in the last couple of years, and gdp per capita is falling. Getting a surplus is easy, the Coalition should never have suggested a surplus = a good economy. A surplus is great, but it is not a higher priority than jobs and economic growth.

Also don't underestimate the broken promise of making Victoria's teachers the best paid in the nation and the cuts to TAFE, they had a huge impact.

Edited by imonfourfourtwo: 30/11/2014 10:23:22 AM

It does, however, remind Tony Abbott that voters are prepared to chuck out a one term government if they aren't happy. That hasn't happened for quite a while.

I also think Tony Abbott's announcement about the GP tax the other day was deliberately designed to take the heat off the Victorian liberals. It didn't work.

The nationals also lost the seat of Shepparton to an independent, which is undoubtedly due to the SPC cannery debacle earlier this year.

Tones is gone next election. Hope he does the world a favour a kill himself.

People blaming old mate Tones for this are clueless about state issues. Under libs public transport got cut in half, the East West Link fuck up was a major issue, cuts to tafe and uni have turned the public sector against him also his laughable last ditch effort to reveal a plan for the Docklands.

Made his own bed. Too bad we have no decent Socialist alternative.

Joffa doesn't have enough market share on front page threads.

So why wasn't this with all the other politics posts in one thread?

-PB

Yeah that's a bit like a Liberal Government saying the wont axe your job, or expect you to pay more in taxes or cut services ..... You know a lie!

Edited by Joffa: 30/11/2014 01:41:54 AM

It's says non toxic :lol:

With a crayon? You do know you shouldn't eat the crayons, they're toxic after all....

Hardcore.

-PB

Voted for pizza in the local ballot
Drew smiley faces all over the state ballot paper

Tony Abbott sweats as Victorian voters cast harsh judgment

Date November 29, 2014 - 8:46PM
Mark Kenny

There will be no shortage of theories about what caused the Victorian result but you can safely bet federal Labor will target the toxic standing of the Abbott government as the key driver.

Normally such claims are transparently self-serving. Voters understand the delineation between state and federal governments and are loath to waste one trip to the ballot box pointlessly ventilating grievances about the other.

But this election has been different. Noticeably so. Without inspiring leaders, contrasting programs, or the presentation of a transformative vision, the local pre-election period has been vulnerable to national hijack. Some have dubbed the Victorian poll a "Seinfeld election" - a show about nothing.

More accurately it seems, this has been the palimpsest election - one where pre-existing state factors have been all but scrubbed or paled to be over-written with sexier federal issues. Even the hotly contested issue of the East West Link has been mired in the federal sphere with much of the money coming from Canberra and Tony Abbott letting it be known that the billions committed would not be available for re-deployment on public transport if Labor were to win.

For the hapless Napthine government, this federal focus could not have been more inconvenient. Why? Because it started behind and then weathered some of the least favourable background conditions at the hands of its hamfisted federal colleagues.

Canberra's ill-timed restoration of federal fuel excise rises early on (via regulation because he cannot pass it in the Senate) and the woeful mismanagement of the GP co-payment issue in the last critical days of the campaign were major embuggerances to Denis Napthine's pitch - no question.

In a state with the highest mainland jobless level, and where the federal government was already synonymous with insensitivity over Alcoa, and the automotive industry, the charisma-challenged Napthine option has struggled for an independent voice and been damned by association. And Napthine's risible incapacity to "educate" Tony Abbott, as Victorians might see it, has merely made things worse.

However it is in Canberra that the message from voters will be causing real heart-ache into the future.

As the nation's second biggest state, Victoria is already an under-performer for the coalition having supplied just 14 of the Liberal Party's 74 seats and just two more when you add in the Nationals to the joint coalition total nationally of 89.

For the first time in recent days, senior federal Liberals are suddenly alive to the risk of becoming one-term wonders. If it could happen in Victoria - after nearly 60 years - it can happen nationally.

It is, after all, what the polls have been saying since late 2013.

The involvement of the Prime Minister in the campaign was almost zero. Bill Shorten as a Victorian however, was heavily present.

Labor has made plenty out of that too.

But Shorten must know that the Victorian result could make his job harder if it sparks a change of approach by Abbott towards the more sensitive and explanatory style of government voters appear to be craving.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-sweats-as-victorian-voters-cast-harsh-judgment-20141129-11wsgd.html

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Nothing wrong with being looked upon like a grandpa , Tony comes across like that creepy uncle you have .