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Wanderers had 16.5k ticketed member and 2.4k non ticketed members last season. Like all other clubs in the League, Wanderers' average no show of members is around 25%. This is why in our second season we had sellouts virtually every game but had attendances around the 15k mark. This last season like all other clubs in a bad season we had a larger no show of members and of the 3.5k tickets that were available to supporter members and non members less and less were sold as the season went on.
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Davo1985 wrote:Capt. Awesome wrote:Mariners at 3173 as of today. Source? Just checked twitter and their page and nothing showing. Here:  First seen on the A-League website circa yesterday, late Tuesday 4th of August?! :-k Fills-in your blanks for Roar and any other clubs too, Davo. Interesting to see Glory near 4k - not going too badly, despite the controversy, disappointment and fall-out still lingering from last season. Edited by GloryPerth: 6/8/2015 01:42:59 AM
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GloryPerth wrote:Here:  First seen on the A-League website circa yesterday, late Tuesday 4th of August?! :-k Fills-in your blanks for Roar and any other clubs too, Davo. Interesting to see Glory near 4k - not going too badly, despite the controversy, disappointment and fall-out still lingering from last season. Edited by GloryPerth: 6/8/2015 01:42:59 AM Didnt do the numbers properly but i have about 60k just in my head. That is actually not too bad. Hope a few of the stragglers pick it up (everyone bar MV & WSW).
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robstazzz wrote:Davo1985 wrote:robstazzz wrote:Davo1985 wrote:robstazzz wrote:Davo1985 wrote:slbenfica82 wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:I'm expecting the only big movers on last season to be Victory and Adelaide. The Reds should reach 10k at least and we should be aiming for 30k
I reckon all other clubs will have similar numbers, maybe City will jump up slightly.
Of course if the Wanderers membership wasn't capped and they had a bigger stadium they'd probably have more too. Victory have capped membership this season to 26,500 due to stadium capacity at AAMI Park. Wanderers are no longer the only club who's had to cap membership due to the size of their ground. Stadium capacities are starting to become a real issue for these 2 clubs. The growth of the biggest 2 clubs in the league are being heavily restricted. The wanderers need to start getting close to selling out every week. Despite members having the option to resell their tix they still only managed 12.5k last year in a 21k ground with 18.5k members. Meanwhile syd fc avg wsw member figure. No actually we didn't have that option last season. Stadium capacity is 20k not 21k. If you remember correctly you guys had a good season and we had a shocker, and don't forget the important derbies played at your ground that pump up you season average to 18k thanks the travelling Wanderers fans. So no, we don't need to worry about selling out Pirtek Stadium week in week out. Ahh yeah you did have that option. One of my mates was a WSW member and said it was possible. Do the numbers buddy. We had one derby last year with 14 home games. If we normally were to avg 16,000 then with one game getting us 45k the diff is 29k. Now Divide 29k by 14 home games and you get an increase of 2k in avg. So with that we get our 18k avg. We only had a couple of games that actually helped us due to our larger capacity. For the rest we constantly got 15k - 20k which would have easily fit in Pirtek too. If you were avg 16k or more then you can claim that you have easily outgrown the stadium. Unfortunately that didn't happen for you last year. Sure you had a bad season, granted, but if the support is truly as strong as everyone is claiming then it should be close to 3/4 full every week no matter what. Edited by Davo1985: 5/8/2015 06:14:29 PM We did not have that option last season and I'm a member myself. Don't go around making things up just to suit your own made up theory. If we had the option where you could have your ticket for a certain game sold and have a credit on your membership going into the new season then it would work but otherwise no one will go through the trouble to have their tickets sold with nothing in it for themselves. I actually find it really funny and sad at the same time that you are so hurt that you don't believe that we deserve a upgrade or new stadium because we only averaged 12.5k last season having come second last. There is nothing stopping Sydney FC crowds being upwards of 40k where as with us there is as the stadium is a 20k seater. So obviously with that in mind you don't have to be rocker scientist to know that the bigger crowd drawing games we would easily have went over the 30k mark which then would have lifted our average. Just curious do you also think Adelaide United don't deserve to have Hindmarsh lifted from 16k to 20k because they only averaged 12.6k last season and not the 16k total? Apologies i was told tickets were able to be exchanged with non members. I assumed there would be a credit given to the member otherwise as you pointed out why would the member even bother. Seems like the initiative was pretty useless last year. Good to see they have it sorted for this season. I never said the stadiums shouldn't be upgraded. i just said that the stadiums aren't full to the brim and repeat of last season probably won't help the cause of upgrades if they are filling it at 60%. I just don't understand how out of 18.5k members more than a third weren't turning up to games. And if u consider that out of the avg from the 12k, 1 or 2k would have been walk ups and you're basically getting 50% of members showing. Were memberships that cheap that people preferred skipping 1/2 the games? Edited by Davo1985: 5/8/2015 10:42:45 PM There was roughly 18k members. We ended up with a average of 12.5k, considering how shit our season went both on and off the field it is pretty understandable. I just don't see why you don't think it's normal that roughly on average 5k members chose to stay home last season. Not to mention 5 games were also played midweek because of ACL or CWC commitments which would be a good enough excuse for the drop on top of some of the worst football being played in the A-League. My bad but I thought you meant we don't deserve the stadium upgrade which would be a stupid comment. Thanks for the laughs Davo. ''Sydney FC largest and most prestiges club in Australia'' ;) :lol: :lol:
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Davo1985
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robstazzz wrote:Davo1985 wrote:robstazzz wrote:Davo1985 wrote:robstazzz wrote:Davo1985 wrote:slbenfica82 wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:I'm expecting the only big movers on last season to be Victory and Adelaide. The Reds should reach 10k at least and we should be aiming for 30k
I reckon all other clubs will have similar numbers, maybe City will jump up slightly.
Of course if the Wanderers membership wasn't capped and they had a bigger stadium they'd probably have more too. Victory have capped membership this season to 26,500 due to stadium capacity at AAMI Park. Wanderers are no longer the only club who's had to cap membership due to the size of their ground. Stadium capacities are starting to become a real issue for these 2 clubs. The growth of the biggest 2 clubs in the league are being heavily restricted. The wanderers need to start getting close to selling out every week. Despite members having the option to resell their tix they still only managed 12.5k last year in a 21k ground with 18.5k members. Meanwhile syd fc avg wsw member figure. No actually we didn't have that option last season. Stadium capacity is 20k not 21k. If you remember correctly you guys had a good season and we had a shocker, and don't forget the important derbies played at your ground that pump up you season average to 18k thanks the travelling Wanderers fans. So no, we don't need to worry about selling out Pirtek Stadium week in week out. Ahh yeah you did have that option. One of my mates was a WSW member and said it was possible. Do the numbers buddy. We had one derby last year with 14 home games. If we normally were to avg 16,000 then with one game getting us 45k the diff is 29k. Now Divide 29k by 14 home games and you get an increase of 2k in avg. So with that we get our 18k avg. We only had a couple of games that actually helped us due to our larger capacity. For the rest we constantly got 15k - 20k which would have easily fit in Pirtek too. If you were avg 16k or more then you can claim that you have easily outgrown the stadium. Unfortunately that didn't happen for you last year. Sure you had a bad season, granted, but if the support is truly as strong as everyone is claiming then it should be close to 3/4 full every week no matter what. Edited by Davo1985: 5/8/2015 06:14:29 PM We did not have that option last season and I'm a member myself. Don't go around making things up just to suit your own made up theory. If we had the option where you could have your ticket for a certain game sold and have a credit on your membership going into the new season then it would work but otherwise no one will go through the trouble to have their tickets sold with nothing in it for themselves. I actually find it really funny and sad at the same time that you are so hurt that you don't believe that we deserve a upgrade or new stadium because we only averaged 12.5k last season having come second last. There is nothing stopping Sydney FC crowds being upwards of 40k where as with us there is as the stadium is a 20k seater. So obviously with that in mind you don't have to be rocker scientist to know that the bigger crowd drawing games we would easily have went over the 30k mark which then would have lifted our average. Just curious do you also think Adelaide United don't deserve to have Hindmarsh lifted from 16k to 20k because they only averaged 12.6k last season and not the 16k total? Apologies i was told tickets were able to be exchanged with non members. I assumed there would be a credit given to the member otherwise as you pointed out why would the member even bother. Seems like the initiative was pretty useless last year. Good to see they have it sorted for this season. I never said the stadiums shouldn't be upgraded. i just said that the stadiums aren't full to the brim and repeat of last season probably won't help the cause of upgrades if they are filling it at 60%. I just don't understand how out of 18.5k members more than a third weren't turning up to games. And if u consider that out of the avg from the 12k, 1 or 2k would have been walk ups and you're basically getting 50% of members showing. Were memberships that cheap that people preferred skipping 1/2 the games? Edited by Davo1985: 5/8/2015 10:42:45 PM There was roughly 18k members. We ended up with a average of 12.5k, considering how shit our season went both on and off the field it is pretty understandable. I just don't see why you don't think it's normal that roughly on average 5k members chose to stay home last season. Not to mention 5 games were also played midweek because of ACL or CWC commitments which would be a good enough excuse for the drop on top of some of the worst football being played in the A-League. My bad but I thought you meant we don't deserve the stadium upgrade which would be a stupid comment. No certainly not. If the option is there for an upgrade it should certainly be taken. My argument was just mainly on the fact that the size of the stadium last season would have played a minimal difference on the overall attendance figures. In saying that, if you have a stellar season and obviously play all games on the weekend you should really see it push closer to 15-16k easy. A 5k - 10k stadium upgrade to both Parra and Adelaide would be ideal for the next phase of growth in our sport in the coming decade.
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Club Total 2015/16 (Total 14/15)
Adelaide United: 3,949 (9,505) Brisbane Roar: 3,298 (12,113) Central Coast Mariners: 3,138 (6,242) Melbourne City: 5,345 (11,759) Melbourne Victory: 19,608 (24,200) Newcastle Jets: 774 (10,003) Perth Glory : 3,854 (6,298) Sydney FC: 6,244 (11,510) Wellington Phoenix: 1,359 (4,185) Western Sydney Wanderers: 15,053 (18,706)
TOTAL: 62,622 (114,521) ........ as of Round 1 2014 membership count was: 97,252 (rd 1 2013 was 86,352)
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bitza
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Davo1985 wrote:Club Total 2015/16 (Total 14/15)
Adelaide United: 3,949 (9,505) Brisbane Roar: 3,298 (12,113) Central Coast Mariners: 3,138 (6,242) Melbourne City: 5,345 (11,759) Melbourne Victory: 19,608 (24,200) Newcastle Jets: 774 (10,003) Perth Glory : 3,854 (6,298) Sydney FC: 6,244 (11,510) Wellington Phoenix: 1,359 (4,185) Western Sydney Wanderers: 15,053 (18,706)
TOTAL: 62,622 (114,521) ........ as of Round 1 2014 membership count was: 97,252 (rd 1 2013 was 86,352)
Anybody know how many members we had last year this far out from the season.
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Oi davo. Can you highlight the updated member number each time you provide an update. Saves scrolling through the pages. Love the work. <3
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Gyfox
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bitza wrote:Davo1985 wrote:Club Total 2015/16 (Total 14/15)
Adelaide United: 3,949 (9,505) Brisbane Roar: 3,298 (12,113) Central Coast Mariners: 3,138 (6,242) Melbourne City: 5,345 (11,759) Melbourne Victory: 19,608 (24,200) Newcastle Jets: 774 (10,003) Perth Glory : 3,854 (6,298) Sydney FC: 6,244 (11,510) Wellington Phoenix: 1,359 (4,185) Western Sydney Wanderers: 15,053 (18,706)
TOTAL: 62,622 (114,521) ........ as of Round 1 2014 membership count was: 97,252 (rd 1 2013 was 86,352)
Anybody know how many members we had last year this far out from the season. August 5 last year. Quote:2014/15
Adelaide United: 4,800 Brisbane Roar: 9,087 Central Coast Mariners: 3,000 Melbourne City: 6,356 Melbourne Victory: 11,329 Newcastle Jets: 5,003 Perth Glory : 2,500 Sydney FC: 6,551 Wellington Phoenix: 1,000 Western Sydney Wanderer: 10,098
Total = 59,724
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The biggest club in Australia are a bit behind despite relative success.
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TheSelectFew wrote:The biggest club in Australia are a bit behind despite relative success. To be fair we started selling memberships six weeks later than usual because of updates to the website and processing system. Pignata is certain we'll hit our target of 13,000 - which would be a record for us, with only MV and WSW ahead. It's also worth remembering that aside from derbies if you're a Sydney fan you're guaranteed a seat at any home game because of the size of Allianz - whereas if you want to be certain of a ticket to a game at Parramatta or Swan Street you need a membership. That's the main reason why there's such a discrepancy between our membership numbers and our average attendances.
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Gyfox wrote:bitza wrote:Davo1985 wrote:Club Total 2015/16 (Total 14/15)
Adelaide United: 3,949 (9,505) Brisbane Roar: 3,298 (12,113) Central Coast Mariners: 3,138 (6,242) Melbourne City: 5,345 (11,759) Melbourne Victory: 19,608 (24,200) Newcastle Jets: 774 (10,003) Perth Glory : 3,854 (6,298) Sydney FC: 6,244 (11,510) Wellington Phoenix: 1,359 (4,185) Western Sydney Wanderers: 15,053 (18,706)
TOTAL: 62,622 (114,521) ........ as of Round 1 2014 membership count was: 97,252 (rd 1 2013 was 86,352)
Anybody know how many members we had last year this far out from the season. August 5 last year.
Quote:2014/15
Adelaide United: 4,800 Brisbane Roar: 9,087 Central Coast Mariners: 3,000 Melbourne City: 6,356 Melbourne Victory: 11,329 Newcastle Jets: 5,003 Perth Glory : 2,500 Sydney FC: 6,551 Wellington Phoenix: 1,000 Western Sydney Wanderer: 10,098
Total = 59,724 Just to add, or put into some context - During that period I think we were still reliant on collating those numbers from a variety of sources, including updates of quite varying frequency, from clubs? I don't think the FFA's http://www.A-League.com.au tally started appearing till much closer to season start, if not season start itself? So, what I mean is, the numbers of Phoenix and Glory in particular may well have been a little greater than what we could find, August 5 last year. Granted, the most up-to-date numbers on that corresponding day last year may only have been a few hundred more or so perhaps? Can say the same for even AU and Mariners - such rounded numbers indicate estimates and usually already 'dated' figures. So basically, last season the A-League may also have been circa early 60ks for members, at true count, just we didn't have access to the most up-to-date figures, as we do now. ;) Edited by GloryPerth: 7/8/2015 12:49:24 AM
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Quote:[size=9]Help the Hyundai A-League reach 130,000 Members![/size] Thursday, 6 August 2015 - Staff Writer A new and improved Membership page is now live on the website and with the 2015/16 Hyundai A-League Season fast approaching, we have an ambitious target of 130,000 Memberships across all Clubs. So jump on board now and help make this happen! A record breaking 114,544 members committed to their club in Season 10, which was an impressive 18% increase on the previous season. We have an ambitious target of 130,000 Members for season 2015/16 and we need you to jump on board to show your support and make the Hyundai A-League even bigger as football grows across Australia. With all Club Memberships now on sale, you can join or register your interest in becoming a Member today at our brand new Membership page; http://www.a-league.com.au/membership. The page also features a tally of all Clubs’ Membership numbers, as well as overall numbers, overall target and a countdown to achieve that target. Now is the perfect time to renew or join your team to experience an unforgettable year. Go to http://www.a-league.com.au/membership and join or register today. Read more at http://www.a-league.com.au/article/help-the-hyundai-a-league-reach-130000-membershelp-the-hyundai-a-league-reach-130000-members/xt045pta7waa1sxg3qfc4j83h#IJHtkL8S7Cs81oH3.99 Woah 130k both seems ambitious, but understandable. Just some bigger stumbling blocks this season - as one commenter below the article said, Roar need to sort their ownership situation, some certainty and security there, in-order to give fans more confidence to get back on-board. Though in all honesty, I think the Roar may be lucky to push 9-10k this season, let alone their record of last season, given the uncertainty and insecurity still lingering through this pre-season. I think the challenge at the Jets seems a steep one, given the talk from Newcastle folk and the transition to FFA management. Tinkler famously subsidised the membership quite substantially, so just tying to the discussion earlier between Davo and Benchwarmer - I think a relative increase is to be expected as just a natural re-balancing. Capac stated what the new packs are up there and apparently they aren't unreasonable - so as word of mouth about that spreads, hopefully that helps to get some fans to re-sign up. The damage from late Tinkler era and that Stubbins controversy is the other big challenge, so repairing the reputation and relations with fans may take a little time, but hopefully the more they see of Miller and his Jets team, the more, again, fans can get back on-board with some confidence. But in any case, the Jets can never be expected to match the kinds of numbers they hit Tinkler era - hopefully this new era they can push beyond 5-6k, at the least? Adelaide United seem a slight surprise, to be a bit behind where they were last season? But perhaps like SFC, it relates to timing in the release? Gombau leaving hopefully doesn't impact too much - his replacement could well be the-goods and the team is stable and still quite strong. They didn't perform too badly against Liverpool either? So hopefully that impressed a few local fence-sitters! Given all this, the A-League may be hard-pressed to push too much beyond last season's record at this rate - perhaps 120k if we're optimistic? :-k Edited by GloryPerth: 7/8/2015 01:26:26 AM
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GloryPerth wrote: So, what I mean is, the numbers of Phoenix and Glory in particular may well have been a little greater than what we could find, August 5 last year. Granted, the most up-to-date numbers on that corresponding day last year may only have been a few hundred more or so perhaps? Can say the same for even AU and Mariners - such rounded numbers indicate estimates and usually already 'dated' figures. So basically, last season the A-League may also have been circa early 60ks for members, at true count, just we didn't have access to the most up-to-date figures, as we do now. ;)
Edited by GloryPerth: 7/8/2015 12:49:24 AM
The Mariners were posting updates fairly regularly last year (either directly or in response to enquiries), so I'd say those numbers were more accurate.
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Passing the 20k mark. :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Good stuff. How do prices compare to last season?
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bitza
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Better than MV numbers when you consider all the factors.
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Thanks for the refresher rbs :) - I guess, Mariners have a pretty good history in that regard, so perhaps shouldn't lump them in with others. May not be remembering acurately, but we could never confirm 'all' with up-to-date figures, till the A-League eventually sprang their own tally on us. It's made the task of Davo and the rest of us, much easier -almost obsolete, I dare say? :shock: :p Just curious, how did you guys jump from under 1k to the number you have now - Auto-renewals just kicked in? :-k You guys seem to be tracking better than most of us, including some of you guys, presumed - good stuff? :cool: Edited by GloryPerth: 10/8/2015 06:44:55 PM
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Good to see the Jets getting memberships despite everything that has happened.
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Yep Jerks auto-renewals kicked in, hence the big increase seemingly overnight
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Seems in line with last year..
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bitza wrote:Better than MV numbers when you consider all the factors. Talk to jlm about crowd and membership sizes in relation to population size. It's arguably his favourite topic. Jerks are now on 5562. Wonder if the FFA Cup tonight will alter people's level of keen-ness to renew, or sign up.
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Club Total 2015/16 (Total 14/15)
Adelaide United: 3,949 (9,505) Brisbane Roar: 3,298 (12,113) Central Coast Mariners: 3,138 (6,242) Melbourne City: 5,381 (11,759) Melbourne Victory: 20,199 (24,200) Newcastle Jets: 5,562 (10,003) Perth Glory : 3,854 (6,298) Sydney FC: 6,244 (11,510) Wellington Phoenix: 1,359 (4,185) Western Sydney Wanderers: 15,109 (18,706)
TOTAL: 68,093 (114,521) ........ as of Round 1 2014 membership count was: 97,252 (rd 1 2013 was 86,352)
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The Official A-League Membership Tally - Update released: Wednesday 12 August 2015:  [size=6] Source: http://www.A-League.com.au/membership[/size] Davo, you can utilise this to update your own tally. ;) Edited by GloryPerth: 12/8/2015 10:46:01 PM
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Decent numbers from AU, but the club should do more to advertise memberships. Some ads in the paper, on TV, whatever. Would love to see them break 10,000. Having said that, I won't be able to get a membership because I'm saving up for several things, including but not limited to a PS4 and a m80 banner.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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What would everyone think about ordering the teams in highest to lowest membership numbers rather than alphabetical?
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salmonfc wrote:Decent numbers from AU, but the club should do more to advertise memberships. Some ads in the paper, on TV, whatever. Would love to see them break 10,000.
Having said that, I won't be able to get a membership because I'm saving up for several things, including but not limited to a PS4 and a m80 banner. Disappointed the Reds don't have more members. 10,000 doesn't seem unrealistic.
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For chrissy im just asking for vouchers to buy a 1tb ps4
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