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johnszasz wrote:Down to 3rd on the 2nd place table. Groups are being dominated by two teams and it makes that table very close. Such a dumb system. Why not have playoffs like they have for the Asian Cup group? Makes me very nervous. We'll need to up the GD in all our games at home.
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paladisious
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FT India 1 Guam 0. Almost another Greece v Faroe Islands!
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paladisious wrote:johnszasz wrote:Down to 3rd on the 2nd place table. Groups are being dominated by two teams and it makes that table very close. Such a dumb system. Why not have playoffs like they have for the Asian Cup group? Makes me very nervous. We'll need to up the GD in all our games at home. The Bangladesh game will help GD. Won't count as they'll finish last. I think a draw at home to Jordan probably would see us in the top 4 but it'd be a nervous night while the rest of Asia plays. Hopefully Kyrgyzstan see the benefit benefit of 3rd for the Asian Cup and take it to Jordan.
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Palestine raw dogged Malaysia 6-0, East Timor have let a late torrent of goals away to the UAE, who are up 8-0 with a few minutes left.
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paladisious
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johnszasz wrote:paladisious wrote:johnszasz wrote:Down to 3rd on the 2nd place table. Groups are being dominated by two teams and it makes that table very close. Such a dumb system. Why not have playoffs like they have for the Asian Cup group? Makes me very nervous. We'll need to up the GD in all our games at home. The Bangladesh game will help GD. Won't count as they'll finish last. I think a draw at home to Jordan probably would see us in the top 4 but it'd be a nervous night while the rest of Asia plays. Hopefully Kyrgyzstan see the benefit benefit of 3rd for the Asian Cup and take it to Jordan. As I understand it, the Bangladesh game won't count towards points in the best second place table, but certainly we'll want to pump up that goal difference against them to beat Jordan in our own group too as it will be tight.
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paladisious
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Basically I'm saying "scoring lots of goals is good", so I won't bother trying to over explain it. You get me. :lol:
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johnszasz
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paladisious wrote:johnszasz wrote:paladisious wrote:johnszasz wrote:Down to 3rd on the 2nd place table. Groups are being dominated by two teams and it makes that table very close. Such a dumb system. Why not have playoffs like they have for the Asian Cup group? Makes me very nervous. We'll need to up the GD in all our games at home. The Bangladesh game will help GD. Won't count as they'll finish last. I think a draw at home to Jordan probably would see us in the top 4 but it'd be a nervous night while the rest of Asia plays. Hopefully Kyrgyzstan see the benefit benefit of 3rd for the Asian Cup and take it to Jordan. As I understand it, the Bangladesh game won't count towards points in the best second place table, but certainly we'll want to pump up that goal difference against them to beat Jordan in our own group too as it will be tight. We might even be guaranteed a spot in the next round before the Jordan game by beating Tajikistan with one match day to go. If we're very high up in the second place table, a safe gap might appear. We're going to be on 12 points on the second place table after the Tajikistan game no doubt. All below is in the view of the second place table system. UAE or Saudi will probably go through as second in their group. Syria should end up on 12 points by beating Singapore and getting nothing in Japan and beating last place Cambodia. Oman have little chance of winning in Iran and Turkmenistan and even then they'd be on 11 while we'll have at least 12. China, HK or Qatar will definitely go through as second in their group as all 3 are so high up above Bhutan and Maldives. Kuwait and Lebanon don't pose a threat as they both need to go to South Korea and face Myanmar. Iraq are near gone in their group while North Korea seem poised to finish second but go through as I see Uzbekistan taking maximum points. Such a fascinating state of affairs.
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scotty21
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Group A: Palestine 6–0 Malaysia United Arab Emirates 8–0 Timor-Leste Group B Australia 3–0 Kyrgyzstan Tajikistan 5–0 Bangladesh Group C Maldives 0–1 Hong Kong China PR 12–0 Bhutan Group D Iran 3–1 Turkmenistan India 1–0 Guam Group E: Singapore 0–3 Japan Afghanistan 3–0 Cambodia Group F: Thailand 4–2 Chinese Taipei Group G: South Korea 4–0 Myanmar Lebanon 7–0 Laos Group H: Philippines 0–1 Yemen Uzbekistan 3–1 North Korea
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Glh37
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johnszasz wrote:
We might even be guaranteed a spot in the next round before the Jordan game by beating Tajikistan with one match day to go. If we're very high up in the second place table, a safe gap might appear. We're going to be on 12 points on the second place table after the Tajikistan game no doubt. All below is in the view of the second place table system.
UAE or Saudi will probably go through as second in their group.
Syria should end up on 12 points by beating Singapore and getting nothing in Japan and beating last place Cambodia.
Oman have little chance of winning in Iran and Turkmenistan and even then they'd be on 11 while we'll have at least 12. China, HK or Qatar will definitely go through as second in their group as all 3 are so high up above Bhutan and Maldives.
Kuwait and Lebanon don't pose a threat as they both need to go to South Korea and face Myanmar. Iraq are near gone in their group while North Korea seem poised to finish second but go through as I see Uzbekistan taking maximum points.
Such a fascinating state of affairs.
In summary we know that if Kuwait is thrown out Group G 2nd place could end up on 15 points maximum (counting the bottom placed side) while all the other groups could end up with a 2nd placed team on 13 points maximum (not counting the 5th placed side). If Kuwait stays then Group D 2nd place could end up on 13 points maximum as well. More likely (as pointed out above) is that if the bug guns win the games they are expected to then a decent number of 2nd placed teams end up on 10-12 points so 13 points is possibly likely to be enough to make the 4 best. Wins in the next 2 games would see the Socceroos on 12 pts (not including Bangladesh) so a draw in the last match is highly likely to be the most needed unless we slip up beforehand.
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Group A: 1 Saudi Arabia 5 4 1 0 15 3 +12 13 2 United Arab Emirates 5 3 1 1 20 2 +18 10 3 Palestine 6 2 3 1 15 4 +11 9 4 Malaysia 6 1 1 4 2 26 -24 4 5 Timor-Leste 6 0 2 4 2 19 -17 2
(Next Matchday – November 17): Timor-Leste v Saudi Arabia Malaysia v United Arab Emirates
Group B: 1 Jordan 5 4 1 0 12 1 +11 13 2 Australia 5 4 0 1 13 3 +10 12 3 Kyrgyzstan 6 2 2 2 8 8 +0 8 4 Tajikistan 6 1 2 3 9 12 -3 5 5 Bangladesh 6 0 1 5 2 20 -18 1
(Next Matchday – November 17): Bangladesh v Australia Kyrgyzstan v Jordan
Group C: 1 Qatar 5 5 0 0 24 2 +22 15 2 Hong Kong 6 4 1 1 13 3 +10 13 3 China 5 3 1 1 21 1 +20 10 4 Maldives 6 1 0 5 4 14 -10 3 5 Bhutan 6 0 0 6 3 45 -42 0
(Next Matchday – November 17): Bhutan v Qatar Hong Kong v China
Group D: 1 Iran 5 3 2 0 14 3 +11 11 2 Oman 5 3 2 0 9 3 +6 11 3 Turkmenistan 6 2 1 3 6 9 -3 7 4 Guam 6 2 1 3 3 9 -6 7 5 India 6 1 0 5 4 12 -8 3
(Next Matchday – November 17): Guam v Iran Turkmenistan v Oman
Group E: 1 Japan 5 4 1 0 15 0 +15 13 2 Syria 5 4 0 1 18 5 +13 12 3 Singapore 6 3 1 2 7 5 +2 10 4 Afghanistan 6 2 0 4 6 18 -12 6 5 Cambodia 6 0 0 6 1 19 -18 0
(Next Matchday – November 17): Singapore v Syria Cambodia v Japan
Group F: 1 Thailand 5 4 1 0 12 4 +8 13 2 Iraq 3 1 2 0 8 4 +4 5 3 Vietnam 4 1 1 2 3 6 -3 4 4 Chinese Taipei 4 0 0 4 4 13 -9 0
(Next Matchday – November 17): Chinese Taipei v Iraq
Group G: 1 South Korea 5 5 0 0 18 0 +18 15 2 Kuwait 5 3 1 1 12 1 +11 10 3 Lebanon 6 3 1 2 11 4 +7 10 4 Myanmar 6 1 1 4 5 20 -15 4 5 Laos 6 0 1 5 3 24 -21 1
(Next Matchday – November 17): Laos v South Korea Myanmar v Kuwait
Group H: 1 North Korea 6 4 1 1 10 5 +5 13 2 Uzbekistan 5 4 0 1 15 6 +9 12 3 Philippines 6 2 1 3 5 9 -4 7 4 Bahrain 5 2 0 3 7 7 +0 6 5 Yemen 6 1 0 5 1 11 -10 3
(Next Matchday – November 17): North Korea v Bahrain Yemen v Uzbekistan
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Not sure it's been posted before, Ricky Herbert is now coaching the Maldives national team! His first match was a home loss to Hong Kong though.
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Glh37
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some late afternoon/early evening kickoffs (NSW/VIC/TAS time) for Guam vs Iran, Timor Leste vs Saudis and Korea DPR vs Bahrain
the #1 seeds should all be comfortable vs the #5 seeds - other than Bhutan most of the minnows have kept the scores to date below 10 and have played better at home
potentially on or more of the #4 seeds could shake things up by snatching a draw or win against the #2 seeds (or 2nd Seed Bahrain could pinch a point from 4th Seed Best Korea)
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scotty21
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Glh37 wrote:some late afternoon/early evening kickoffs (NSW/VIC/TAS time) for Guam vs Iran, Timor Leste vs Saudis and Korea DPR vs Bahrain
the #1 seeds should all be comfortable vs the #5 seeds - other than Bhutan most of the minnows have kept the scores to date below 10 and have played better at home
potentially on or more of the #4 seeds could shake things up by snatching a draw or win against the #2 seeds (or 2nd Seed Bahrain could pinch a point from 4th Seed Best Korea) Nice are they streaming anywhere?
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Glh37
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scotty21 wrote:Glh37 wrote:some late afternoon/early evening kickoffs (NSW/VIC/TAS time) for Guam vs Iran, Timor Leste vs Saudis and Korea DPR vs Bahrain
the #1 seeds should all be comfortable vs the #5 seeds - other than Bhutan most of the minnows have kept the scores to date below 10 and have played better at home
potentially on or more of the #4 seeds could shake things up by snatching a draw or win against the #2 seeds (or 2nd Seed Bahrain could pinch a point from 4th Seed Best Korea) Nice are they streaming anywhere? some of the upcoming match streams are available on the AFC Asian Cup Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXTRFt1vLvZpahQtiKJjLaQGuam vs Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7UitoRivRgT-L vs Saudis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYayFaqBMY0not sure about the DPR Korea vs Bahrain game
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Glh37 wrote:scotty21 wrote:Glh37 wrote:some late afternoon/early evening kickoffs (NSW/VIC/TAS time) for Guam vs Iran, Timor Leste vs Saudis and Korea DPR vs Bahrain
the #1 seeds should all be comfortable vs the #5 seeds - other than Bhutan most of the minnows have kept the scores to date below 10 and have played better at home
potentially on or more of the #4 seeds could shake things up by snatching a draw or win against the #2 seeds (or 2nd Seed Bahrain could pinch a point from 4th Seed Best Korea) Nice are they streaming anywhere? some of the upcoming match streams are available on the AFC Asian Cup Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXTRFt1vLvZpahQtiKJjLaQGuam vs Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7UitoRivRgT-L vs Saudis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYayFaqBMY0not sure about the DPR Korea vs Bahrain game Cheers, Looks like the Guam game kicks off about 4.30 and the Saudi game at 9. That's some entertainment until the roos game
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Guam have had a player sent off while conceding a penalty (converted) in the 50th minute - 4 nil to Iran, but it could get ugly now
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Saudis up 4 nil at ht
Game is on now Not at 900
Edited by glh37: 17/11/2015 07:13:17 PM
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Currently 7-0. Match is live on the AFC's Youtube channel. East Timor have just had a player sent off.
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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Make that 8-0. That was some of the worst defending from a cross I've ever seen. I've seen Under 7s more enthusiastic. :lol:
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OK 3 goals in 2 minutes. 9-0 or 10-0 now. I've lost count. :lol:
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And that makes it 10-0 officially. :lol: 4 goals in the last 10 minutes. Fair to say East Timor stopped giving a fuck a while ago. :lol:
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Heineken wrote:Currently 7-0.
Match is live on the AFC's Youtube channel.
East Timor have just had a player sent off. BEWARE: AFC YouTube live chat is full of broken English aids.
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Jordan 1-0 down in Bishkek away at Kyrgyzstan nearly an hour gone.
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geez how many minutes extra?
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OK its over. Great result!
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Group A: Timor-Leste 0–10 Saudi Arabia Malaysia 1–2 United Arab Emirates Group B: Bangladesh 0- 4 Australia Kyrgyzstan 1-0 Jordan Group C: Bhutan 0–3 Qatar Hong Kong 0-0 China Group D: Guam 0–6 Iran Turkmenistan 2-1 Oman Group E Singapore 1–2 Syria Cambodia 0-2 Japan Group F: Chinese Taipei 0–2 Iraq Group G: Laos 0–5 South Korea Group H: North Korea 2–0 Bahrain Yemen 1–3 Uzbekistan
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Kyrgyzstan 1-0 Jordan - they also drew in Jordon:oops:
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Roberts wrote:Kyrgyzstan 1-0 Jordan - they also drew in Jordon:oops: Jordan is our kryptonite.
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scotty21 wrote:
Group B: Kyrgyzstan 1-0 Jordan Group C: Hong Kong 0-0 China Group D: Turkmenistan 2-1 Oman
(near miss) Group E: Singapore 1–2 Syria (scored in 93rd minute)
Obviously the Krgyzstan upset of Jordan has taken the most attention on FFT The other results will make it much more likely that if the Socceroos win against Tajikistan then we would be likely to make the 4 best 2nd placed teams even if we lost to Jordan (assuming Japan, Korea etc don't tank their last games) Qatar is now through from Group C. Thailand would need a rash of upsets in other groups to miss out on being one of the 4 best 2nd placed teams, assuming they fail to top their group.
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2018 FIFA World Cup (Asian Zone Qualifying second round) Standings after Matchday 8,
Group A: 1 Saudi Arabia 6 5 1 0 25 3 +22 16 2 United Arab Emirates 6 4 1 1 22 3 +19 13 3 Palestine 6 2 3 1 15 4 +11 9 4 Malaysia 7 1 1 5 3 28 -25 4 5 Timor-Leste 7 0 2 5 2 29 -27 2
Next Matchday – Thursday March 24th United Arab Emirates v Palestine Saudi Arabia v Malaysia
Group B: 1 Australia 6 5 0 1 17 3 +14 15 2 Jordan 6 4 1 1 12 2 +10 13 3 Kyrgyzstan 7 3 2 2 9 8 +1 11 4 Tajikistan 6 1 2 3 9 12 -3 5 5 Bangladesh 7 0 1 6 2 24 -22 1
Next Matchday – Thursday March 24th: Australia v Tajikistan Jordan v Bangladesh
Group C: 1 Qatar 6 6 0 0 27 2 +25 18 2 Hong Kong 7 4 2 1 13 3 +10 14 3 China 6 3 2 1 21 1 +20 11 4 Maldives 6 1 0 5 4 14 -10 3 5 Bhutan 7 0 0 7 3 48 -45 0
Next Matchday – Thursday March 24th: China v Maldives Qatar v Hong Kong
Group D: 1 Iran 6 4 2 0 20 3 +17 14 2 Oman 6 3 2 1 10 5 +5 11 3 Turkmenistan 7 3 1 3 8 10 -2 10 4 Guam 7 2 1 4 3 15 -12 7 5 India 6 1 0 5 4 12 -8 3
Next Matchday – Thursday March 24th: Iran v India Oman v Guam
Group E: 1 Japan 6 5 1 0 17 0 +17 16 2 Syria 6 5 0 1 20 6 +14 13 3 Singapore 7 3 1 3 8 7 +1 10 4 Afghanistan 6 2 0 4 6 18 -12 6 5 Cambodia 7 0 0 7 1 21 -20 0
Next Matchday – Thursday March 24th: Japan v Afghanistan Syria v Cambodia
Group F: 1 Thailand 5 4 1 0 12 4 +8 13 2 Iraq 4 2 2 0 10 4 +6 8 3 Vietnam 4 1 1 2 3 6 -3 4 4 Chinese Taipei 5 0 0 5 4 15 -11 0
Next Matchday – Thursday March 24th: Iraq v Thailand Vietnam v Chinese Taipei
Group G: 1 South Korea 6 6 0 0 23 0 +23 18 2 Kuwait 5 3 1 1 12 1 +11 10 3 Lebanon 6 3 1 2 11 4 +7 10 4 Myanmar 6 1 1 4 5 20 -15 4 5 Laos 7 0 1 6 3 29 -26 1
Next Matchday – Thursday March 24th: South Korea v Lebanon Kuwait v Laos
Group H: 1 North Korea 7 5 1 1 12 5 +7 16 2 Uzbekistan 6 5 0 1 18 7 +11 15 3 Philippines 6 2 1 3 5 9 -4 7 4 Bahrain 6 2 0 4 7 9 -2 6 5 Yemen 7 1 0 6 2 14 -12 3
Next Matchday – Thursday March 24th: Uzbekistan v Philippines Bahrain v Yemen
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