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jsoccerdoe wrote:
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Can anyone tell me who got the fourth goal?


Believe it was Ahmed Sweedan no 11


Thank you Sir
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We have moved top of the group with that win despite playing only one game. :lol:

I will post match reports in the OP

Edited by TheSelectFew: 30/7/2015 11:57:56 PM


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So we have a sweeden and an italiano...
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grazorblade wrote:
So we have a sweeden and an italiano...


:lol: paulc is fuming


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In reply to a previous comment, I don't think they're playing the wingers in a wide formation. Looks like they're playing wing-backs with the left and right back running up the wings n the wingers are playing more centrally. Looks more congested in the forward middle section.

Good win tho and unfortunately they did take the pedal off the second half. Could also be team tactics with trying new formations/plays etc.

Also don't forget this is the first game ever these kids have played together as a team. So well done boys.
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In reply to a previous comment, I don't think they're playing the wingers in a wide formation. Looks like they're playing wing-backs with the left and right back running up the wings n the wingers are playing more centrally. Looks more congested in the forward middle section.

Good win tho and unfortunately they did take the pedal off the second half. Could also be team tactics with trying new formations/plays etc.

Also don't forget this is the first game ever these kids have played together as a team. So well done boys.


Australia played a high defensive line in the first half.

Couldn't find a stream for the second half.

The central third was congested, because Cambodia defended deep with a stacked defence.
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Second half...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpSN6Zxs09I
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Barca4Life wrote:


Thanks mate.
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After watching the first half I was pretty impressed with 10 and 21 in the midfield and 4 the central defender. Lachlan Brook, No.10 is also a year younger than the others which is pretty impressive.

21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.

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Capac wrote:
After watching the first half I was pretty impressed with 10 and 21 in the midfield and 4 the central defender. Lachlan Brook, No.10 is also a year younger than the others which is pretty impressive.

21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.


They all looked like quality kids. I've got high hopes for those players you've mentioned plus the #17 Italiano, the #9 Roberts and we seen a bit of what the #23 Najjarine can do!

When's the next match?
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Capac wrote:
21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.


You're not wrong :lol: :lol: :lol:


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azzaMVFC wrote:
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After watching the first half I was pretty impressed with 10 and 21 in the midfield and 4 the central defender. Lachlan Brook, No.10 is also a year younger than the others which is pretty impressive.

21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.


They all looked like quality kids. I've got high hopes for those players you've mentioned plus the #17 Italiano, the #9 Roberts and we seen a bit of what the #23 Najjarine can do!

When's the next match?


Tomorrow against Singapore. 9:30 kick.


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walnuts wrote:
Capac wrote:
21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.


You're not wrong :lol: :lol: :lol:



lol that Cambodian kid is like 5ft :lol:



Edited by griffindinho: 31/7/2015 10:03:33 AM
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I had trouble identifying players because of the low quality picture.

However, I was pleased to see a player I've briefly coached in the team - Castaneda.

There is a lot to like about the way this team are playing. Bad habits of the past are disappearing. If these guys stay with football, teams are growing up playing football like the European powerhouses do.=d>

These traits were on show:

*Optimum angles for passing lanes. Because of all the diagonal balls, Aussie players were constantly receiving, facing forwards and being able to scan the field of play at the same time.

*Players are a lot more both footed than in the past. This results in players not having to pass to where they think a player's preferred foot is when they receive the ball.

* There were almost no desperate clearances by Australia or hoofing it aimlessly up front. Nearly every ball played was thoughtful.

*There was not as much showboating as when I saw this team play Japan, with players demonstrating excellent Attacking 1v1 skills.

* Australian players are become better under close defensive pressure by:

1. Having a better first touch on both sides of the body.

2. Having improved in their ability to shield the ball.

* Australia was able to tire out a team by having so much possession. Players constantly passed back to release pressure, then try another avenue to goal from a different point in the build up, whether left , right or central.


Australia had complete control of the game, with so much possession in midfield. In the past there would have been many more 1v1 duels and balls being battled for in transitional play.

If the Aussie central striker had converted tow really good chances in the second half, that he missed, it would've been a good performance.




One has to remember how hot and humid those conditions are, which favour home teams, particularly in the second half.




Edited by Decentric: 31/7/2015 02:59:10 PM
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I'd like to give a big wrap to The Select Few for setting these threads up on underage football.=d>

The streams are invaluable.

If ever I meet you I'll buy you a few beers, TSF.:)
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Higashi wrote:
FT 4:0

Seems like this side sorely lacks a Brattan or Antonis like player, someone with patience who knows how to dictate tempo, redirect play, and stretch the opposition while controlling midfield. Also some very poor passing at times out of pure carelessness rather than the state of the pitch. Against higher quality opposition I can see us getting shredded on the counter. However in saying that its their first game, they showed some good signs, and still plenty of time to improve.



These guys on average are far superior to Brattan's and Antonis's generation.
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Decentric wrote:
I'd like to give a big wrap to The Select Few for setting these threads up on underage football.=d>

The streams are invaluable.

If ever I meet you I'll buy you a few beers, TSF.:)


Thanks mate. I usually do these each year itd be great if you can come back and analyse their growth next year. It was great to hear your input.

Keen for a meet up to tak football. =p~


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Capac wrote:


21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.


Being bigger really only helps in aerial duels.

It was interesting that Castaneda beat players using a Zidane 360 degree turn, and La Croqueta, another quick right left, or left right inside of the foot touch move.

He was in the SAP on the other half of the pitch in the SAP, whilst our rep team had the other half of the pitch. Many of my young players, who had been dropped from SAP or NTC, didn't see the value in learning these types of moves that I was trying to impart to them.](*,)

Castenada spent a lot of time perfecting what they saw as extraneous. Look where it got him compared to them? Their best is NPL senior level, which most will probably achieve.








Edited by Decentric: 31/7/2015 03:00:14 PM
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Decentric wrote:
I had trouble identifying players because of the low quality picture.

However, I was pleased to see a player I've briefly coached in the team.

There is a lot to like about the way this team are playing. Bad habits of the past are disappearing. If these guys stay with football, teams are growing up playing football like the European powerhouses do.=d>

These traits were on show:

*Optimum angles for passing lanes. Because of all the diagonal balls, Aussie payers were constantly receiving, facing forwards and being able to scan the field of play at the same time.

*Players are a lot more both footed than in the past. This results in players not having to pass to where they think a player's preferred foot is when they receive the ball.

* There were almost no desperate clearances by Australia or hoofing it aimlessly up front. Nearly every ball played was thoughtful.

*There was not as much showboating as when Isaw this team play Japan, with players demonstrating excellent Attacking 1v1 skills.

* Australian players are become better under close defensive pressure by:

1. Having a better first touch on both sides of the body.

2. Having improved in their ability to shield the ball.

* Australia was able to tire out a team by having so much possession. Players constantly passed back to release pressure, then try another avenue to goal from a different point in the build up, whether left , right or central.


Australia had complete control of the game, with so much possession in midfield. In the past there would have been many more 1v1 duels and balls being battled for in transitional play.

If the Aussie central striker had converted tow really god chances in the second half, that he missed, it would've been a good performance.




One has to remember how hot and humnid those conditions are, which favour home teams, particularly in the second half.


Thanks for your insights Decentric, really appreciate it.

I occasionally check back to these threads to see where we stand at a junior level, and it's great that our youngsters especially the U15's are coming through really strongly with the new national curriculum fully implemented. I can only imagine the next crop will be even better.

As I have stated previusly i'm envisaging 2022 as the year that we'll have some super talented young players hopefully breaking through and playing in top clubs in europe, alla Belgium did a few years ago.
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Anyway to watch the replay?
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Anyway to watch the replay?


There was a second half link that Barca4Life put up. Someone else had two links in an earlier post in one post. I clicked on the first one.

I managed to see the whole game.
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Decentric wrote:
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21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.


Being bigger really only helps in aerial duels.

It was interesting that Castaneda beat players using a Zidane 360 degree turn, and La Croqueta, another quick right left, or left right inside of the foot touch move.

He was in the SAP on the other half of the pitch in the SAP, whilst our rep team had the other half of the pitch. Many of my young players, who had been dropped from SAP or NTC, didn't see the value in learning these types of moves that I was trying to impart to them.](*,)

Castenada spent a lot of time perfecting what they saw as extraneous. Look where it got him compared to them? Their best is NPL senior level, which most will probably achieve.
Edited by Decentric: 31/7/2015 03:00:14 PM


Being bigger also helps in shielding the ball not just aerial.

Will be interesting to see how they go against a team that will not afford them all the space they got in the first half in particular and with bigger bodies. Hopefully this is just the start of the kids starting with the SAP stage. It was really nice to watch at times.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
azzaMVFC wrote:
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Spoke to my son and said the boys are adjusting well. First couple of days were hard. Food was the biggest problem. Have been training once or twice a day and ready to go for tonight. Should be a big crowd playing the host nation. 8.30 in the morning here and already 32 and humid.


Who is your son mate?


I think he should keep that private tbh


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Can't explain how proud I was last night of all the boys. The crowd was insane. Not a bad start for the first game. Conditions were tough but boys played it out.
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Justafan wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Capac wrote:


21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.


Being bigger really only helps in aerial duels.

It was interesting that Castaneda beat players using a Zidane 360 degree turn, and La Croqueta, another quick right left, or left right inside of the foot touch move.

He was in the SAP on the other half of the pitch in the SAP, whilst our rep team had the other half of the pitch. Many of my young players, who had been dropped from SAP or NTC, didn't see the value in learning these types of moves that I was trying to impart to them.](*,)

Castenada spent a lot of time perfecting what they saw as extraneous. Look where it got him compared to them? Their best is NPL senior level, which most will probably achieve.
Edited by Decentric: 31/7/2015 03:00:14 PM


Being bigger also helps in shielding the ball not just aerial.

Will be interesting to see how they go against a team that will not afford them all the space they got in the first half in particular and with bigger bodies. Hopefully this is just the start of the kids starting with the SAP stage. It was really nice to watch at times.


You should see the french and mostly african players at under 17 level, technically good but physically very imposing. :d
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Decentric wrote:
I had trouble identifying players because of the low quality picture.

However, I was pleased to see a player I've briefly coached in the team - Castaneda.

There is a lot to like about the way this team are playing. Bad habits of the past are disappearing. If these guys stay with football, teams are growing up playing football like the European powerhouses do.=d>

These traits were on show:

*Optimum angles for passing lanes. Because of all the diagonal balls, Aussie players were constantly receiving, facing forwards and being able to scan the field of play at the same time.

*Players are a lot more both footed than in the past. This results in players not having to pass to where they think a player's preferred foot is when they receive the ball.

* There were almost no desperate clearances by Australia or hoofing it aimlessly up front. Nearly every ball played was thoughtful.

*There was not as much showboating as when I saw this team play Japan, with players demonstrating excellent Attacking 1v1 skills.

* Australian players are become better under close defensive pressure by:

1. Having a better first touch on both sides of the body.

2. Having improved in their ability to shield the ball.


* Australia was able to tire out a team by having so much possession. Players constantly passed back to release pressure, then try another avenue to goal from a different point in the build up, whether left , right or central.


Australia had complete control of the game, with so much possession in midfield. In the past there would have been many more 1v1 duels and balls being battled for in transitional play.

If the Aussie central striker had converted tow really good chances in the second half, that he missed, it would've been a good performance.




One has to remember how hot and humid those conditions are, which favour home teams, particularly in the second half.




Edited by Decentric: 31/7/2015 02:59:10 PM


That's the thing it strikes me about these kids is how comfortable they are under pressure especially when it comes to their first touch and always have the confidence to back their technique to pass(one touch)or to shield under the most pressure especially in the first half when trying to break down are very tight back 5 of Cambodia.
The Joeys No.10 Brook was a very good example.

When it comes to showboating i saw a bit of it still, but we shouldn't discourage it at youth level even if they make mistakes its important the players express themselves.


What were the other bad habits that these guys don't have anyone compared to other gens?
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I loved the arrogance and showboating but its pointless if you give up possession.


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JDB03 wrote:
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azzaMVFC wrote:
JDB03 wrote:
Spoke to my son and said the boys are adjusting well. First couple of days were hard. Food was the biggest problem. Have been training once or twice a day and ready to go for tonight. Should be a big crowd playing the host nation. 8.30 in the morning here and already 32 and humid.


Who is your son mate?


I think he should keep that private tbh


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Can't explain how proud I was last night of all the boys. The crowd was insane. Not a bad start for the first game. Conditions were tough but boys played it out.


Good on him. Hope he continues to do well.
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Thanks mate.
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JDB03 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
azzaMVFC wrote:
JDB03 wrote:
Spoke to my son and said the boys are adjusting well. First couple of days were hard. Food was the biggest problem. Have been training once or twice a day and ready to go for tonight. Should be a big crowd playing the host nation. 8.30 in the morning here and already 32 and humid.


Who is your son mate?


I think he should keep that private tbh


All good boys my son is dylan pierias no.2
Can't explain how proud I was last night of all the boys. The crowd was insane. Not a bad start for the first game. Conditions were tough but boys played it out.


Seen him belt out the anthem at the start was great to see. Wondering if I could ask a few general questions? I know a lot of the posters on here would be pretty keen to know too..

How do the boys feel about representing their country? They're still so very young, do they feel a great sense of pride?
Do these boys get a lot of directive from the FFA and more so from the way Ange's senior national side like to play?
Finally have any of these kids had contact from bigger overseas academies? I'd assume there would be a lot of scouts at these tournaments..

Cheers :)
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Barca4Life wrote:
Justafan wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Capac wrote:


21 is Eduardo Castaneda the Tassie kid. I can see why he has big wraps on him. It also does help at this age that he is bigger than all the other kids though.


Being bigger really only helps in aerial duels.

It was interesting that Castaneda beat players using a Zidane 360 degree turn, and La Croqueta, another quick right left, or left right inside of the foot touch move.

He was in the SAP on the other half of the pitch in the SAP, whilst our rep team had the other half of the pitch. Many of my young players, who had been dropped from SAP or NTC, didn't see the value in learning these types of moves that I was trying to impart to them.](*,)

Castenada spent a lot of time perfecting what they saw as extraneous. Look where it got him compared to them? Their best is NPL senior level, which most will probably achieve.
Edited by Decentric: 31/7/2015 03:00:14 PM


Being bigger also helps in shielding the ball not just aerial.

Will be interesting to see how they go against a team that will not afford them all the space they got in the first half in particular and with bigger bodies. Hopefully this is just the start of the kids starting with the SAP stage. It was really nice to watch at times.


You should see the french and mostly african players at under 17 level, technically good but physically very imposing. :d


Thought they were the same thing :lol:
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