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soccerfoo wrote:
Didn't know India, Bangladesh, Pakistan Sri Lanka Nepal were all Asian. Sub continent are different, no? They are as Chinese as the Aussies are I guess..:lol:


I don't know what you are trying to achieve with this post.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
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Didn't know India, Bangladesh, Pakistan Sri Lanka Nepal were all Asian. Sub continent are different, no? They are as Chinese as the Aussies are I guess..:lol:


I don't know what you are trying to achieve with this post.

It's like when people can't comprehend that NZ is part of the continent of Australia/Oceania.

What continent due you think they are in?
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soccerfoo wrote:
Didn't know India, Bangladesh, Pakistan Sri Lanka Nepal were all Asian. Sub continent are different, no? They are as Chinese as the Aussies are I guess..:lol:


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soccerfoo wrote:
Didn't know India, Bangladesh, Pakistan Sri Lanka Nepal were all Asian. Sub continent are different, no? They are as Chinese as the Aussies are I guess..:lol:


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soccerfoo wrote:
Didn't know India, Bangladesh, Pakistan Sri Lanka Nepal were all Asian. Sub continent are different, no? They are as Chinese as the Aussies are I guess..:lol:


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Olyroos Rio Olympic qualifiers: Who are the next crop of Australian stars?
FOX SPORTS September 03, 2015 4:18PM SHARE

As part of their preparations for Russia 2018, manager Ange Postecoglou showcased the continued need for growth and regeneration, giving Olyroos Jackson Irvine and Chris Ikonomidis a run out in the second half.

This kind of move — rewarding in-form youth internationals — is something Postecoglou is looking to do more of, saying in a 2014 interview with Leopold Method: “I’m trying to make the national team set up almost like a club structure where they can progress through the ranks and there is a natural pathway.

“We used to have that in the past, where if they did well in the Under 20s or the Olyroos, they could step up. And also, by selecting them for the national team while they’re still eligible for the under-aged teams, we can send them back to play for the Olyroos or the Under 20s with some invaluable experience.”

The Olyroos are now preparing for January’s Olympic Games qualifiers in Doha with a friendly on Saturday morning, 3.30am AEST against Turkey and FYR Macedonia on Tuesday and coach Aurelio Vidmar has named a squad full of exciting prospects.

With that in mind we look at the next generation of stars preparing to make the step up ...

MUSTAFA AMINI — RANDERS FC (DENMARK)

Amini broke through in the A-League five years ago for the Central Coast Mariners before moving to Borussia Dortmund at 19. A creative midfielder, Amini has had a taste with the national team, although not making an appearance under Holger Osieck, and should he find regular game time with his new club, could work his way into Postecoglou’s set up.

BRANDON BORRELLO — BRISBANE ROAR

A flying right winger, Borrello debuted for Brisbane Roar for the first time at the end of 2013 before establishing himself as a regular last season. As his side struggled, Borrello, 20, was one of the shining lights, particularly going forward where his direct running caused problems for opponents and an outlet for teammates.

JOSH BRILLANTE — CALCIO COMO (ITALY)

A bearded Brillante caused waves during the 2013 U20 World Cup where he partnered Irvine in midfield. With boundless energy and an eye for a pass, Brillante — who started in the A-League with Gold Coast before moving to Newcastle — is also equally able to slot in at right fullback and already has four appearances under Postecoglou.

CAMERON BURGESS — FULHAM (ENGLAND)

Defender Burgess has opted for Australia over Scotland, who he was also eligible to represent, and is currently on the fringes of Championship side Fulham, where he made four starts last season.

DANNY DE SILVA — RODA JC (NETHERLANDS)

Expected to move to Italian giants Roma, De Silva instead exited Perth for the Netherlands where he will look for regular game time. Mainly playing on the left of Perth’s front three, De Silva is earmarked as a No.10 and attracted interest for his performances at the U20 World Cup as a 16-year-old.

MILOS DEGENEK — 1860 MUNICH (GERMANY)

While fringe Socceroos Ben Halloran and James Holland are plying their trade in the 2.Bundesliga so too is centre back Degenek. Making five starts already for 1860, Degenek has been capped at youth level by Serbia before being called up to the Olyroos set up.

JAMES DONACHIE — BRISBANE ROAR

Part of the Roar’s A-League successes, Doncahie is a central defender comfortable with the ball at his feet. Adding a couple of goals to his game last season, Donachie is a leader at the back.

JACK DUNCAN — RANDERS FC (DENMARK)

A goalkeeper who struggled to break past an established No.1 in the A-League with Perth, Duncan has moved off to Europe where he is also second fiddle. Making three appearances at Olyroos level, Duncan has made eight league appearances in his young career.

RYAN EDWARDS — UNCONTRACTED

Attacking midfielder Edwards is still just 21 despite being on the radar since 2011 when he joined English club Reading. Now off contract, Edwards has previously spent a season on loan with Perth Glory where he made 15 appearances.

GIANCARLO GALLIFUOCO — UNCONTRACTED

A classy defender who has been a regular of Swansea’s U21 side for a few years, Gallifuoco is equally comfortable at playing in midfield and was also part of Tottenham’s youth set up, coming through with Massimo Luongo.

SCOTT GALLOWAY — MELBOURNE VICTORY

Slight of stature but a very able left back, Galloway broke through at Victory under Postecoglou and has gone on to be a regular sight on the teamsheet under Kevin Muscat. Challenging with more experienced international Daniel Georgievski for the starting spot, Galloway still made 12 starts during the double season.

JASON GERIA — MELBOURNE VICTORY

Geria is well known to Postecoglou, who brought him to Melbourne from Brisbane in his first season in charge. Playing on the right, the lanky defender is a regular with the double winning side.

JOHN HALL — ADELAIDE UNITED

The towering Hall is now Adelaide’s understudy to Eugene Galekovic and is learning from the best in the A-League. Having now broken into the Olyroos set up, 20-year-old Hall has been praised for his work ethic by his club.

ANDREW HOOLE — SYDNEY FC

The bright spot in a dismal season for Newcastle, Hoole’s impressive performances attracted the interest of Sydney FC. Able to play in a variety of positions — on either flank, off the striker or even deployed as a wingback last season — Hoole is highly rated.

PAUL IZZO — CENTRAL COAST MARINERS

Goalkeeper Izzo debuted for the Mariners with a horror error which saw them exit the FFA Cup. Signed from Adelaide, where Hall has taken over as deputy to Galekovic, Izzo has long been involved in the youth national team set up.

AWER MABIL — FC MIDTJYLLAND (DENMARK)

While he hasn’t made his first appearances in Denmark, that one of the most innovative clubs in Europe has taken the punt says something about Mabil’s potential. The 19-year-old made 21 appearances for Adelaide last season, scoring six goals, and loves to skip past a helpless defender on the right wing.

JAMIE MACLAREN — BRISBANE ROAR

Livewire striker Maclaren is earning a reputation for scoring regularly despite not nailing down a starting spot at Perth. Last season, playing just 847 minutes, Maclaren’s nine goals saw him secure the best scoring rate of any player in the last three A-Leauge seasons.

CHRIS NAUMOFF — SYDNEY FC

Naumoff was thrown in the deep end by Graham Arnold last season and didn’t disappoint. A series of injuries propelled Naumoff into the starting left wing role where he regularly swapping flanks with Bernie Ibini. Also able to play as the No.10, Naumoff is unexpectedly quick and possesses a fierce left footed shot.

CONNOR PAIN — MELBOURNE VICTORY

Another one of Victory’s youngsters who broke through under Postecoglou, Pain, who can play on either wing, looks dangerous with his electric pace and low centre of gravity. He was another who impressed at the U20 World Cup two years ago.

STEVEN UGARKOVIC — NK OSIJEK (CROATIA)

Defensive midfielder Ugarkovic has gone about working out a career in Croatia after coming through the system in the NSW state league. Currently on loan to second tier HNK Gorica, the 21-year-old has made six Olyroo appearances.

BRAD SMITH — UNCONTRACTED

Liverpool fans will remember Smith as the little-known kid who came off the bench against Chelsea in 2013/14, putting him straight into Socceroos contention. A left back who can also play further forward, Smith is off contract but does have four senior caps under his belt already.

ADAM TAGGART — DUNDEE UNITED (SCOTLAND)

The move to England hasn’t worked as planned for Taggart, whose impressive form for Newcastle Jets in 2013/14 saw him score 16 goals and make it to the World Cup. Sharp, with the kind of intelligent movement that can leave defenders constantly looking over their shoulders, Taggart will spend time on loan with Dundee where he can hopefully return to form and fitness.

RILEY WOODCOCK — SYDNEY FC

With two competitive games under his belt for new club Sydney FC, Woodcock is just breaking into the U23s and will fight it out with fellow youngster Alex Gersbach for the left back position at club level.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/olyroos-rio-olympic-qualifiers-who-are-the-next-crop-of-australian-stars/story-e6frf4l3-1227512550814

Edited by Krusen: 5/9/2015 12:30:28 AM
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Does that mean Smith will be uncontracted till the next window?


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TheSelectFew wrote:
Does that mean Smith will be uncontracted till the next window?

If he's uncontracted someone can offer him a contract any time.
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So do we see Franjic breaking back into the starting team? I think Elrich has made that spot his own and injury is the only thing that will cost him.
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So do we see Franjic breaking back into the starting team? I think Elrich has made that spot his own and injury is the only thing that will cost him.


I think Franjic has a better first touch than Elrich.

Elrich's crossing against Bangladesh was the best we've seen for some time, apart from Oar.

The fact that Elrich can play as left and right back should see him retain his spot in the squad .

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Decentric wrote:
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So do we see Franjic breaking back into the starting team? I think Elrich has made that spot his own and injury is the only thing that will cost him.


I think Franjic has a better first touch than Elrich.

Elrich's crossing against Bangladesh was the best we've seen for some time, apart from Oar.

The fact that Elrich can play as left and right back should see him retain his spot in the squad .

If Brillante can get some gametime in Serie B he might be given some time again at right back. Certainly has more potential than our current right backs.
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Does that mean Smith will be uncontracted till the next window?

If he's uncontracted someone can offer him a contract any time.


I think there is some form of inverted snobbery about some young European players returning to play in the HAL. Unless it is a question of money. Smith would be far better served in the HAL ATM, than no contract at all.

There are heaps of young players who've gone to Europe who've stagnated, or trod water, from their late teens to mid twenties.

Where has playing in Europe in the following scenarios assisted these players' international aspirations?

Vidosic, Langerak, Herd, Brad Smith, Lowry, Bozanic, Nathan Burns (he claims he improved from the experience), Troisi (apart from last season in Belgium), Brillante ( ATM), Ryan Edwards, as footballers have stagnated, trod water, or wasted very important years in their development by making poor decisions, possibly through poor agents' advice.

James Holland and Davidson have had a bit of a roller coaster in Europe.

Oar, Sainsbury, Jedinak, Ryan, Leckie, Kruse, Luongo, Cisak and Bailey Wright have made pleasing progress, no doubt. Their moves to Europe have been beneficial to their international football careers.


The first group may have been better served playing in the HAL with an ACL campaign, or playing in the J League for a few seasons. Regular football beats bench sitting.





Edited by Decentric: 5/9/2015 11:51:35 AM
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u4486662 wrote:
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So do we see Franjic breaking back into the starting team? I think Elrich has made that spot his own and injury is the only thing that will cost him.


I think Franjic has a better first touch than Elrich.

Elrich's crossing against Bangladesh was the best we've seen for some time, apart from Oar.

The fact that Elrich can play as left and right back should see him retain his spot in the squad .

If Brillante can get some gametime in Serie B he might be given some time again at right back. Certainly has more potential than our current right backs.


Forgotten about Brillante.

He was impressive for such a young player at RB, and DM, for the Socceroos. ATM he needs to play regular football.

According to Carl Valeri, the HAL is marginally better than Serie B. The HAL has bigger crowds too. If Brillante is stuck in Serie B, he may as well return to the HAL.



Edited by Decentric: 5/9/2015 12:35:10 PM
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Decentric wrote:
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So do we see Franjic breaking back into the starting team? I think Elrich has made that spot his own and injury is the only thing that will cost him.


I think Franjic has a better first touch than Elrich.

Elrich's crossing against Bangladesh was the best we've seen for some time, apart from Oar.

The fact that Elrich can play as left and right back should see him retain his spot in the squad .

If Brillante can get some gametime in Serie B he might be given some time again at right back. Certainly has more potential than our current right backs.


Forgotten about Brillante.

He was impressive for such a young player at RB, and DM, for the Socceroos. ATM he needs to play football.

According to Carl Valeri, the HAL is marginally better than Serie B. The HAL has bigger crowds too. If Brillante is stuck in Serie B, he may as well return to the HAL.

The difference in quality between the two leagues is hard to judge and would be marginal at best, but, in Serie B there are more matches (42 league matches) as well as cup matches where he may get an opportunity to compete against Serie A clubs. (Unfortunately just realised that Como have already been knocked out of the Copa Italia, but still, there is always next year). He'll also have a better opportunity of impressing Serie A clubs if he does well there rather than here.
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u4486662 wrote:

The difference in quality between the two leagues is hard to judge and would be marginal at best, but, in Serie B there are more matches (42 league matches) as well as cup matches where he may get an opportunity to compete against Serie A clubs. (Unfortunately just realised that Como have already been knocked out of the Copa Italia, but still, there is always next year). He'll also have a better opportunity of impressing Serie A clubs if he does well there rather than here.


Valeri said he wouldn't have gone overseas if he had known he would always play Serie B, not Serie A. He would've stayed in the HAL if it was operational when he left to go overseas in the old days.

42 league games in Serie B is better than the 27 in the HAL.

If a club plays finals football, progresses beyond the group stage of the ACL and plays a few FFA Cup games, the Oz season can be as many as 40 games. It was too much for WSW.
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Decentric wrote:
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The difference in quality between the two leagues is hard to judge and would be marginal at best, but, in Serie B there are more matches (42 league matches) as well as cup matches where he may get an opportunity to compete against Serie A clubs. (Unfortunately just realised that Como have already been knocked out of the Copa Italia, but still, there is always next year). He'll also have a better opportunity of impressing Serie A clubs if he does well there rather than here.


Valeri said he wouldn't have gone overseas if he had known he would always play Serie B, not Serie A. He would've stayed in the HAL if it was operational when he left to go overseas in the old days.

42 league games in Serie B is better than the 27 in the HAL.

If a club plays finals football, progresses beyond the group stage of the ACL and plays a few FFA Cup games, the Oz season can be as many as 40 games. It was too much for WSW.

I suspect only Melbourne Victory will play that many games. If they do well.

Teams like Newcastle will play just 27.
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Didn't know India, Bangladesh, Pakistan Sri Lanka Nepal were all Asian. Sub continent are different, no? They are as Chinese as the Aussies are I guess..:lol:


lol wow
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Ok, what was qatar and uae's excuse to wanting Australia out of asia cause they don't belong there. Well, those look more middle eastern. Socceroos are part of Australasia. That was my previous point/ context.
I guess its like that Qld song, every place is in Qld. Ask Inglis and Folau.. =d>
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Share your sentiments with qatar and uae, as they didn't want socceroos as they didn't fit in. Well, Socceroos are part of Australasia ofcourse. Those nation look middle eastern ;)
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Ok, what was qatar and uae's excuse to wanting Australia out of asia cause they don't belong there. Well, those look more middle eastern. Socceroos are part of Australasia. That was my previous point/ context.
I guess its like that Qld song, every place is in Qld. Ask Inglis and Folau.. =d>

Here is an instructional video for you.

Australia is not part of the continent of Asia. We are lucky to be allowed to play in their confederation.

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Yes, we are not attached to asia, but we are part of Australasia. Those other nations are ignorant to that fact and they should be humbled to have the Socceroos grace their fields quite frankly. Like I said with sarcasm before, they as Chinese as the Aussies, get it? If they belong we do too. Indonesia are a jump away from us, just ask navy.

Edited by soccerfoo: 5/9/2015 08:29:00 PM
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So Tuesday in Dushanbe will be 32 degrees and sunny. 29% humidity and no chance of rain.

I reckon this will help the Tajiks.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
So Tuesday in Dushanbe will be 32 degrees and sunny. 29% humidity and no chance of rain.

I reckon this will help the Tajiks.

During the day.. it will be around 18 degrees when we kick off.

Weather won't play any role and if we are looking for an excuse due to weather that is piss weak. It was actually warmer by kick off for our night matches at the Asian Cup than it will be in Dushanbe.
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So Tuesday in Dushanbe will be 32 degrees and sunny. 29% humidity and no chance of rain.

I reckon this will help the Tajiks.

During the day.. it will be around 18 degrees when we kick off.

Weather won't play any role and if we are looking for an excuse due to weather that is piss weak. It was actually warmer by kick off for our night matches at the Asian Cup than it will be in Dushanbe.


If we lost to Tajikistan in any situation it would be an embarrassment. I was just wanting to get this thread back to football and not geography. My line of thinking was the transition from eurpe to more or less middle eastern conditions.




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TheSelectFew wrote:
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So Tuesday in Dushanbe will be 32 degrees and sunny. 29% humidity and no chance of rain.

I reckon this will help the Tajiks.

During the day.. it will be around 18 degrees when we kick off.

Weather won't play any role and if we are looking for an excuse due to weather that is piss weak. It was actually warmer by kick off for our night matches at the Asian Cup than it will be in Dushanbe.


If we lost to Tajikistan in any situation it would be an embarrassment. I was just wanting to get this thread back to football and not geography. My line of thinking was the transition from eurpe to more or less middle eastern conditions.


It will be 28 degrees and sunny at kick-off, but will cool as the match goes on. Also low humidity helps.
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u4486662 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
JonoMV wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
So Tuesday in Dushanbe will be 32 degrees and sunny. 29% humidity and no chance of rain.

I reckon this will help the Tajiks.

During the day.. it will be around 18 degrees when we kick off.

Weather won't play any role and if we are looking for an excuse due to weather that is piss weak. It was actually warmer by kick off for our night matches at the Asian Cup than it will be in Dushanbe.


If we lost to Tajikistan in any situation it would be an embarrassment. I was just wanting to get this thread back to football and not geography. My line of thinking was the transition from eurpe to more or less middle eastern conditions.


It will be 28 degrees and sunny at kick-off, but will cool as the match goes on. Also low humidity helps.

theselectfew, i see your point, wasn't having a go at you as you normally post quality info o:)

u44 you are correct actually, i for some reason thought kick off would be 8pm local time. Point still stands on weather, we complain about it being too hot or too cold, somewhat annoying.
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JonoMV wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
JonoMV wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
So Tuesday in Dushanbe will be 32 degrees and sunny. 29% humidity and no chance of rain.

I reckon this will help the Tajiks.

During the day.. it will be around 18 degrees when we kick off.

Weather won't play any role and if we are looking for an excuse due to weather that is piss weak. It was actually warmer by kick off for our night matches at the Asian Cup than it will be in Dushanbe.


If we lost to Tajikistan in any situation it would be an embarrassment. I was just wanting to get this thread back to football and not geography. My line of thinking was the transition from eurpe to more or less middle eastern conditions.


It will be 28 degrees and sunny at kick-off, but will cool as the match goes on. Also low humidity helps.

theselectfew, i see your point, wasn't having a go at you as you normally post quality info o:)

u44 you are correct actually, i for some reason thought kick off would be 8pm local time. Point still stands on weather, we complain about it being too hot or too cold, somewhat annoying.

The weather won't be a problem. Players are coming from the European summer and so many would be used to playing in direct sunlight at 20 degrees.

Clearly, we have played in FAR worse conditions. The profound 35-40 degree temps and high humidity in the '07 Asian cup and 45 degrees middle eastern away games spring to mind.
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