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Davide82 wrote:BETHFC wrote:Davide82 wrote:BETHFC wrote: facebook comments on community pages are a great way to see how people in the community think :)
They really aren't They are only representative of a very small sample who just happen to be very loud Basically the same demographic that 15 years ago WOULD have called talk back radio to complain about the boogy man "du jour". With things like community groups, you have wide ranges of opinions as opposed to specific newspapers or forms of media where the respondents are targeted. If you read shit like the Sky News page, it's full of those nasty left wingers, the ABC full of nasty left wingers. Community groups have the best and worst of both :lol: Aha yeah I guess there's the loudest idiots from both sides these days. I do tend to find (if we do need to reduce it to sides) the right leaning has more numbers among the loudest idiots with usually a handful of lefty defenders responding to everyone like zealots but anyway. Somewhere in between all the freaks, purposely avoiding all comments on all forms of media (outside this place obviously)these days, is me. You're not wrong. I find the right idiots to be far more numerous. However the left idiots (if we're going down this path), hide behind pseudo-intelligence and 'sources" for their opinions. I like reading opinions. Always curious to see how people approach the issues in their lives.
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JP wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote: I'm a National Socialist at heart. You're a fucking lunatic. #MakeEuropeGreatAgain :-k
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BETHFC wrote:Davide82 wrote:BETHFC wrote:Davide82 wrote:BETHFC wrote: facebook comments on community pages are a great way to see how people in the community think :)
They really aren't They are only representative of a very small sample who just happen to be very loud Basically the same demographic that 15 years ago WOULD have called talk back radio to complain about the boogy man "du jour". With things like community groups, you have wide ranges of opinions as opposed to specific newspapers or forms of media where the respondents are targeted. If you read shit like the Sky News page, it's full of those nasty left wingers, the ABC full of nasty left wingers. Community groups have the best and worst of both :lol: Aha yeah I guess there's the loudest idiots from both sides these days. I do tend to find (if we do need to reduce it to sides) the right leaning has more numbers among the loudest idiots with usually a handful of lefty defenders responding to everyone like zealots but anyway. Somewhere in between all the freaks, purposely avoiding all comments on all forms of media (outside this place obviously)these days, is me. You're not wrong. I find the right idiots to be far more numerous. However the left idiots (if we're going down this path), hide behind pseudo-intelligence and 'sources" for their opinions. I like reading opinions. Always curious to see how people approach the issues in their lives. I know, I used to but it would often get me wound up and I found myself getting too close to (or actually) putting my two cents in and that's a slippery slope aha I will wait till retirement to release the full force of my misanthropy
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Davide82
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mcjules wrote:Stop being such a PC SJW "cuck" Davide82
Sorry I forgot white knight. I'm sure there's some other terms used to silence criticism of their stupidity that I've also forgotten.
Edited by mcjules: 19/5/2016 12:46:31 PM :lol: I know, I let my guard down and got hook line and sinkered!!! Apologies all aha
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Davide82 wrote:BETHFC wrote:Davide82 wrote:BETHFC wrote:Davide82 wrote:BETHFC wrote: facebook comments on community pages are a great way to see how people in the community think :)
They really aren't They are only representative of a very small sample who just happen to be very loud Basically the same demographic that 15 years ago WOULD have called talk back radio to complain about the boogy man "du jour". With things like community groups, you have wide ranges of opinions as opposed to specific newspapers or forms of media where the respondents are targeted. If you read shit like the Sky News page, it's full of those nasty left wingers, the ABC full of nasty left wingers. Community groups have the best and worst of both :lol: Aha yeah I guess there's the loudest idiots from both sides these days. I do tend to find (if we do need to reduce it to sides) the right leaning has more numbers among the loudest idiots with usually a handful of lefty defenders responding to everyone like zealots but anyway. Somewhere in between all the freaks, purposely avoiding all comments on all forms of media (outside this place obviously)these days, is me. You're not wrong. I find the right idiots to be far more numerous. However the left idiots (if we're going down this path), hide behind pseudo-intelligence and 'sources" for their opinions. I like reading opinions. Always curious to see how people approach the issues in their lives. I know, I used to but it would often get me wound up and I found myself getting too close to (or actually) putting my two cents in and that's a slippery slope aha I will wait till retirement to release the full force of my misanthropy I look forward to participating in whatever the year 2090's version of letters to the editor is :lol:
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:lol: :lol: I'm counting down the days
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I don't get why people dislike Mumford and Sons so virulently.
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AzzaMarch
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BETHFC wrote:
I know you don't accept it but facebook comments on community pages are a great way to see how people in the community think :)
I fucking love the opinion that unless you're living a lifestyle, you can't comment on it :lol: Edit: the emotion is based on the comments I see across the internet and talking with people and the frustration that these people expect things to be handed to them.
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Hahahahahahaha!!! I almost wrote a furious response. But then I realised no one could be so stupid as to take FB comment threads seriously. No one could be that stupid. It's just not possible.
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AzzaMarch
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433 wrote:I don't get why people dislike Mumford and Sons so virulently. I think they represent "peak hipster". So they get disliked for what they represent as much as what they are. They do suck though.
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433 wrote:I don't get why people dislike Mumford and Sons so virulently. Because they're regarded by most as generic faux-hipster bullshit with little to no substance.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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BETHFC
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AzzaMarch wrote:BETHFC wrote:
I know you don't accept it but facebook comments on community pages are a great way to see how people in the community think :)
I fucking love the opinion that unless you're living a lifestyle, you can't comment on it :lol: Edit: the emotion is based on the comments I see across the internet and talking with people and the frustration that these people expect things to be handed to them.
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Hahahahahahaha!!! I almost wrote a furious response. But then I realised no one could be so stupid as to take FB comment threads seriously. No one could be that stupid. It's just not possible. Not that I really care, this has been an amusing wind up from the start but please enlighten us with your sources of community opinion...... Edited by bethfc: 19/5/2016 03:27:30 PM
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Then that is an issue with their fanbase and not the music itself.
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433 wrote:I don't get why people dislike Mumford and Sons so virulently. Because they're fucking shite.
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433 wrote:Then that is an issue with their fanbase and not the music itself.
See above. There's a reason Pitchfork have given two of their albums a <3 score.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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AzzaMarch
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BETHFC wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:BETHFC wrote:
I know you don't accept it but facebook comments on community pages are a great way to see how people in the community think :)
I fucking love the opinion that unless you're living a lifestyle, you can't comment on it :lol: Edit: the emotion is based on the comments I see across the internet and talking with people and the frustration that these people expect things to be handed to them.
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Hahahahahahaha!!! I almost wrote a furious response. But then I realised no one could be so stupid as to take FB comment threads seriously. No one could be that stupid. It's just not possible. Not that I really care, this has been an amusing wind up from the start but please enlighten us with your sources of community opinion...... Edited by bethfc: 19/5/2016 03:27:30 PM The thing is, I don't make much commentary based on "the community thinks this" or the community thinks that". I hate generalisations. Usually I am directly responding to something that has been stated or claimed by a specific person. Trying to gauge "community opinion" is pretty pointless to me. Mainly because it is so varied. Anecdotal evidence is just about the worst way to measure anything. If you are wanting to see how much people are on welfare, look at the stats. Don't bother reading FB comment threads to work out if people are rorting the dole!
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AzzaMarch wrote: The thing is, I don't make much commentary based on "the community thinks this" or the community thinks that". I hate generalisations.
It's not about generalisations, more about noticing trends. A distinguishable trend was dissatisfaction over the first Liberal budget under Tony Abbott. One thing I noticed following Malcolm's budget was that people felt like the low income earners/welfare recipients got nothing out of the budget. AzzaMarch wrote: Trying to gauge "community opinion" is pretty pointless to me. Mainly because it is so varied.
Anecdotal evidence is just about the worst way to measure anything.
Straight out of the Murdoch's Rags handbook :p It's only a problem if you're one of those people who wants to deal in absolutes. I work in the dark arts of engineering dirt and rocks so absolutes mean nothing to me. Half of my job is based on anecdotal evidence :lol: AzzaMarch wrote: If you are wanting to see how much people are on welfare, look at the stats. Don't bother reading FB comment threads to work out if people are rorting the dole!
Stats don't tell you anything about how people on welfare are faring or their attitudes towards their situation though. A bar graph isn't going to inform you about attitudes towards the government. Facebook is great for showing that people are angry over this budget because there isn't enough investment in health and education and that rich people apparently got a tax cut ;)
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The thing is, almost everyone thinks they're doing it tough. Even trolls with multiple investment properties think they are doing it tough even though they have the luxury to put that money into additional mortgage payments ;) Wanting more invested in health, education and other infrastructure isn't always a "what about me?" argument. You look at how shit the inflation and growth figures are and you can make an argument for increased spending in the right areas.
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BETHFC wrote:AzzaMarch wrote: The thing is, I don't make much commentary based on "the community thinks this" or the community thinks that". I hate generalisations.
It's not about generalisations, more about noticing trends. A distinguishable trend was dissatisfaction over the first Liberal budget under Tony Abbott. One thing I noticed following Malcolm's budget was that people felt like the low income earners/welfare recipients got nothing out of the budget. AzzaMarch wrote: Trying to gauge "community opinion" is pretty pointless to me. Mainly because it is so varied.
Anecdotal evidence is just about the worst way to measure anything.
Straight out of the Murdoch's Rags handbook :p It's only a problem if you're one of those people who wants to deal in absolutes. I work in the dark arts of engineering dirt and rocks so absolutes mean nothing to me. Half of my job is based on anecdotal evidence :lol: AzzaMarch wrote: If you are wanting to see how much people are on welfare, look at the stats. Don't bother reading FB comment threads to work out if people are rorting the dole!
Stats don't tell you anything about how people on welfare are faring or their attitudes towards their situation though. A bar graph isn't going to inform you about attitudes towards the government. Facebook is great for showing that people are angry over this budget because there isn't enough investment in health and education and that rich people apparently got a tax cut ;) FB comment threads are people's outlet. It isn't reflective of anything. And depending on what source it is from you will either get right wingers or lefties or whatever commenting. It just isn't representative of anything. You need to widen your sources! I am not talking of absolutes anyway. I am just talking of worthwhile sources vs pointless sources. FB comment threads are garbage.
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BETHFC
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mcjules wrote:The thing is, almost everyone thinks they're doing it tough. Even trolls with multiple investment properties think they are doing it tough even though they have the luxury to put that money into additional mortgage payments ;)
Wanting more invested in health, education and other infrastructure isn't always a "what about me?" argument. You look at how shit the inflation and growth figures are and you can make an argument for increased spending in the right areas. Well let's face it, we call all do with 3 more 0's on the end of our bank account balances :lol: Health, education and infrastructure are the staples that result in growth (how Shorten-esque does that sound) :lol: Giving everyone a tax cut means we can't spend money on health. My POPULAR opinion is that if we can't cut revenue in line with earnings, politicians and their entitlements should suffer first, they're responsible for it :lol:
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salmonfc wrote:433 wrote:Then that is an issue with their fanbase and not the music itself.
See above. There's a reason Pitchfork have given two of their albums a <3 score. For everything in life, theres Family Guy -> [youtube]Yc-GP8DKAyo[/youtube] Oh, and Vance Joy is shite
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I turned on the first episode of GoggleBox in order to "hate watch" it and tell all my friends how stupid an idea for a TV show it is.
But then I actually really enjoyed it, and have been a fan ever since.
Much like Homer Simpson with eating tulips, this is my secret shame!
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...well I knew you were a racist, sexist and homophobe Kane - but I assumed Nazism would be a bit much, even for you.
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JP wrote:...well I knew you were a racist, sexist and homophobe Kane - but I assumed Nazism would be a bit much, even for you. just a highly impressionable teen perhaps...
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:JP wrote:...well I knew you were a racist, sexist and homophobe Kane - but I assumed Nazism would be a bit much, even for you. We're going with real names now? I thought this was the Unpopular Opinions thread..? Do Nazis deserve anonymity?
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Revealing private information about others on thr forums is not on, JP.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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I don't want Syrians coming here, especially Muslim men. Islam is not compatible with western civilisation.
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JP wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote:JP wrote:...well I knew you were a racist, sexist and homophobe Kane - but I assumed Nazism would be a bit much, even for you. We're going with real names now? I thought this was the Unpopular Opinions thread..? Do Nazis deserve anonymity? I would never reveal someone's identity on here, regardless of how much I would disagree with them. That's why you're forum ID is JP instead of your real name (although I assume it's an acronym).
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It's not that good tbh. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but every time I always get a disgusting burnt taste in the back of my mouth, followed by a coughing fit :lol: Edited by 433: 19/5/2016 07:14:37 PM
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JP wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote:JP wrote:...well I knew you were a racist, sexist and homophobe Kane - but I assumed Nazism would be a bit much, even for you. We're going with real names now? I thought this was the Unpopular Opinions thread..? Do Nazis deserve anonymity? He's a cünt, but he deserves anonymity just like everyone else.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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