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			    quickflick wrote:Lots of pics of Brad Smith in his preseason training at Liverpool.
  Imagine he's staying put then.    Seems he's number 29 now. Actually I'm a tiny bit worried that I only saw photos of him possibly separate with these other three blokes, but there could be any reason for that, if they even were training separately. The Tranmere friendly is on in a little more than 2 hours but I can't find any squad lists on their site or twitter, probably keeping on the DL for preseason. Edited by paladisious: 9/7/2016 01:41:10 AM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Full 90 for Luongo in a 0-1 friendly win at PSV.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    On further inspection, it seems the other blokes in his group of four are fellow fullbacks Alberto Moreno, Joe Flanagan and Connor Randall, so I guess they're grouped by position. 
  I think those four plus Nathaniel Clyne (who'd still be on break after the Euros) make up all of the fullbacks for left and right sides for the first team, which is great for Smith's chances of real game time barring further signings, although I'd defer to any Liverpool fans to correct me.
  I'm going to stop reading into this now before I start tracing illuminati symbols.
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			    Bielsa has quit Lazio after two days. Geez he's special. 
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			    johnszasz wrote:Bielsa has quit Lazio after two days. Geez he's special.                    
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Smith starting against Tranmere, on the Liverpool channel on foxtel                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    rick793 wrote:Smith starting against Tranmere, on the Liverpool channel on foxtel  LFC won 1-0. Anyone who watched the game that can comment on Smith's performance?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Valencia used Maty to reveal their new 2016/17 kits. The reveal included a very awkward cat-walk video :lol:  http://www.vcfplay.com/vcf-english/201617-valencia-presentation-8919.html                 
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Lyden has't travelled with Villa to their training camp in Austria as he is doing rehab for an injury https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/07/07/tour-party-confirmed                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Wright only playing the first 30 minutes of a friendly, hope it's not a bad injury.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Irvine scoring in a friendly for Ross County. Guess they're planning to hold onto him.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Go to 0:42 for Irvine's goal
  [youtube]mCtyJTRNQ2k[/youtube]                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    no wonder smith so quick look at his calves!                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    moofa wrote:Go to 0:42 for Irvine's goal
  [youtube]mCtyJTRNQ2k[/youtube]  decent goal! what ever happened with his impending transfer interest?  surely he would be considered a decent pick up. http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/06/29/irvine-has-english-clubs-interested                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Great goal from Irvs                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    paladisious wrote:On further inspection, it seems the other blokes in his group of four are fellow fullbacks Alberto Moreno, Joe Flanagan and Connor Randall, so I guess they're grouped by position. 
  I think those four plus Nathaniel Clyne (who'd still be on break after the Euros) make up all of the fullbacks for left and right sides for the first team, which is great for Smith's chances of real game time barring further signings, although I'd defer to any Liverpool fans to correct me.
  I'm going to stop reading into this now before I start tracing illuminati symbols.
  Edited by paladisious: 9/7/2016 01:52:24 AM  Not a Liverpool fan but I'd say right at this point in time there's a chance Smith could be 3rd choice at LB behind Moreno and Joe Gomez as well.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    It would be better that Smith goes off loan then, no point sitting on the bench or being part of a couple carling or FA cup games.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    That was a nice run and finish from Irvine, particularly for a holding midfielder. Good to see some friendly action with pre-season across Europe kicking off in earnest.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    seasons coming up. friendlies abound.  pick a team and post the schedule? Huddersfield with Aaron Mooy and Jason Davidson. (english dates...) 16/07   Oldham Athletic (A) 20/07   Liverpool (H) - maybe the battle of aussie left backs. 26/07   Werder Bremen 29/07   Ingolstadt 07/08   League opener v Brentford (H) (you can already see a positive influence from the coach in those fixtures - v klopp (his best buddy) and then off to the B1) Edited by inala brah: 9/7/2016 08:47:13 PM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Full matches and wins for Burns and Mrcela.  Sainsbury starts                
			    				
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			    inala brah wrote:seasons coming up. friendlies abound.  pick a team and post the schedule?
  Huddersfield with Aaron Mooy and Jason Davidson. (english dates...)
  16/07   Oldham Athletic (A) 20/07   Liverpool (H) - maybe the battle of aussie left backs. 26/07   Werder Bremen 29/07   Ingolstadt 07/08   League opener v Brentford (H)
  (you can already see a positive influence from the coach in those fixtures - v klopp (his best buddy) and then off to the B1)
 
  Edited by inala brah: 9/7/2016 08:47:13 PM  Huddersfield are going to a training camp in Australia. David and Mooy will also see Leckie. Good to see Mooy will play against some top league opponents. Yes a practice game but I really hope Mooy has a  blinder and Bremen might go for him in future.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Rogic and Celtic have some very big ties in Preseason. Hope he kills it. Btw Bein sports have a Inter friendly on tonight. Hopefully we can get some AA games on their.
 
  Maribor v Celtic  (A) Sat, 9th Jul 18:00 Friendly
  Lincoln Red Imps v   Celtic    Lincoln Red Imps (A) Tue, 12th Jul 19:00 UEFA Champions League
  Celtic v VFL Wolfsburg    VFL Wolfsburg (H) Sat, 16th Jul 15:00 Friendly
  Celtic v   Lincoln Red Imps    Lincoln Red Imps (H) Wed, 20th Jul 19:45 UEFA Champions League
  Celtic v   Leicester City    Leicester City (H) Sat, 23rd Jul 17:30 International Champions Cup
  Barcelona v Celtic    Barcelona (N) Sat, 30th Jul 18:00 International Champions Cup                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    lebo_roo wrote:Rogic and Celtic have some very big ties in Preseason. Hope he kills it. Btw Bein sports have a Inter friendly on tonight. Hopefully we can get some AA games on their.
 
  Maribor v Celtic  (A) Sat, 9th Jul 18:00 Friendly
  Lincoln Red Imps v   Celtic    Lincoln Red Imps (A) Tue, 12th Jul 19:00 UEFA Champions League
  Celtic v VFL Wolfsburg    VFL Wolfsburg (H) Sat, 16th Jul 15:00 Friendly
  Celtic v   Lincoln Red Imps    Lincoln Red Imps (H) Wed, 20th Jul 19:45 UEFA Champions League
  Celtic v   Leicester City    Leicester City (H) Sat, 23rd Jul 17:30 International Champions Cup
  Barcelona v Celtic    Barcelona (N) Sat, 30th Jul 18:00 International Champions Cup  some big games there!  should be enough time on the pitch to turn it on. barcelona, leicester, wolfsburg and champions league!                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Last five minutes of Celtic game below, a few good moments for rogic  https://youtu.be/gNZBIHnVyJ0                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    brad smith pre game interview from the tranmere win [youtube]cuYKnI6EKI0[/youtube]                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Spiranovic starting. Cahill bench.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Timmy on with 11 left.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Club Elo  for Aussie player in Europe
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			    adrtho wrote:Club Elo  for Aussie player in Europe
  1817   Mark   Schwarzer   Leicester City         1809   Robbie   Kruse   Bayer Leverkusen       1806   Brad   Smith   Liverpool        1765   Mat   Ryan   Valencia CF        1662   Bernie   Ibini-Isei   Club Brugge        1639   Mile   Jedinak   Crystal Palace       1633   Curtis   Good    Newcastle United       1625   Adam   Federici   AFC Bournemouth       1606   Mathew   Leckie   FC Ingolstadt       1602   Mitchell   Langerak   VfB Stuttgart        1583   Luke   Wilkshire   Terek Grozny       1557   Tomi    Juric   FC Luzern       1554   Alex   Gersbach   Rosenberg       1538   Brad   Jones   Feyenoord       1522   Terry   Antonis     PAOK     1522   Tom   Rogic   Celtic FC        1511   Awer   Mabil   FC Midtjylland       1511   Jordan   Lyden   Aston Villa        1502   Massimo   Luongo      QPR       1489   Jimmy   Jeggo   SK Sturm Graz       1471   Ben   Halloran   FC Heidenheim       1468   Aziz   Behich   Bursaspor        1459   Neil   Kilkenny   Preston North End        1459   Bailey   Wright   Preston North End        1437   Anthony   Carter   CFR Cluj        1429   Jason   Davidson   Huddersfield Town       1429   Aaron    Mooy   Huddersfield Town    (loan Manchester City)   1854 1428   Cameron   Burgess   Fulham        1421   Milos   Degenek   TSV 1860 Munich       1403   James   Holland   MSV Duisburg       1401   Anthony   Kalik   HNK Hajduk Split       1393   Nikita   Rukavytsya     Maccabi Haifa       1390   Christopher   Ikonomidis     Lazio   (loan Lazio)   1684 1352   Aaron   Lennox    Aberdeen FC       1344   Daniel   De Silva   Roda FC       1341   Kerem   Bulut   Iraklis 1908 FC       1334   Tomislav   Mrcela   NK Lokomotiva Zagreb        1334   Mustafa   Amini   AGF Aarhus       1333   Craig   Goodwin   Sparta Rotterdam       1333   Adam   Sarota   Go Ahead Eagles       1333   Kenny   Dougall    Sparta Rotterdam       1330   Josh   Brillante   Como    (loan Fiorentina)   1702 1330   James   Meredith   Bradford City       1318   Brent   McGrath   Esbjerg       1315   Andy   Rose   Coventry City        1290   Bradden   Inman   Peterborough       1255   Aaron   Downes   Chesterfield       1252   Scott   McDonald   Motherwell       1251   Jesse   Curran   Dundee         1248   Jackson   Irvine   Ross County       1245   James   Wesolowski   Shrewsbury Town       1242   Ryan   Edwards   Partick Thistle       1219   David   Williams   Szombathelyi Halladas      
   just shows how flawed the elo is                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Look at the clubs Rogic gets in pre season, some criticise Scottish football here, sometimes fairly but much of it misguided and uninformed. When you play for a club like Celtic, these are the sorts of teams you can attract or become involved in, which means more experience and more eyes on you.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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