Yes many would think its much higher than 33%.

It's a funny old chart ...businesses and unions are made up of individuals too you know:d

Co-corporations are not people.

The line of faulty reasoning above is why they have things like Citizens United in America, utterly corrupting politics.

The 500 members thing was what Pauline Hanson went to prison for, yeah?

possibly......but at the end of the day was a lie

:shock: don't be sensible or logical, let's just scream privatisation and run around with our hands in the air, that will appeal to all the numb sculls who WANT it to be true

wonder if the unions ask all their members if they are happy to support and be aligned with a particular political party????

What were the polls saying? 50-50 2PP (with a 2% margin of error I believe) for at least a month before the election. What was the result?

As for the other one :oops:

Is this the act of grabbing a bev and drinking it so fast that the cerebral pain of reading batfinks irrational, illogical & loud partisanship fades away?

Partly. It was wrapped into the funding received from having more members reported than existed.

But it was never sufficiently proven (juries are fickle things) and easily turned over on appeal.

That was also a state case, which can be different from federal politics.

It is interesting to see that the major parties raised about $80 million each over 5 years.

Pales in comparison with the spending in the US (even accounting for population difference).

I am glad we have compulsory voting here - it minimises political spending to some extent, because parties don't need to spend to encourage voter turnout, they just have to campaign to get you to vote for them.

I'd be in favour of a really strict ban on political fundraising - limiting donations to individuals (as opposed to organisations) and maximising donations at say $1,000 per year, along with "live" disclosure of donations online as they come in.

You could then expand the public funding of political parties, based on votes received.

Once you ban businesses and unions from funding politics, I think you will see more sensible policies.

how you going Matt? How is the indian linen going??

But could it ever happen?

Yes, not all Unions are affiliated with Labor, and their members can vote to affiliate or disaffiliate as they wish.

The Union I'm a member on is not presently affiliated, for example.

Yup, Shooter's Union is nowhere near Labour at all haha.

-PB

Not to mention Farmer's Union.

I am on a Board of a Union which makes me a Unionist, and yet I voted Liberal and the Union I am involved with is affiliated with the LNP.

It will NEVER, support Labor for valid reason. We had millions worth of law suits in the late eighties and early nineties against the Hawke and Keating administrations.

Australian Federation of Airline Pilots will never affiliate with Labor and the history stems back to the Pilot Strikes in 1989.

Edited by Aikhme: 13/7/2016 12:58:42 PM

what about a same sex union??
#-o #-o #-o

When will the senate results be announced?

That's part of the socialist agenda! :lol:

Of course, it isn't a very funny issue or a laughing matter. If anyone has read Marx and Engels, in it are elaborate details of how the nuclear family must be deconstructed and weakened to the point of destruction where people are isolated as individuals and compromised to resist the implementation of the socialist agenda which also has as its aim the restricting of free speech, free press and free media.

We now have PC, and it will not stop.

I don't care to much because I got my ticket to the Ionian Coast in Greece for retirement with my Aussie Super. There is no PC there or socialist bullshit.

So while you guys are eating sardines out of a can, I will be eating my Souvla and Dolmades whilst looking at topless babes on the beach!

Australia is becoming too fucked up and life is too precious to waste it in Australia.

Land of the free and home to real democracy!

Edited by Aikhme: 13/7/2016 05:21:14 PM

What about people who play rugby union

I agree...people should watch that movie Scarface to highlight what lengths people resort to escape socialism once they've had a taste of it

Speaking of Politics and Political shows isnt it about time that we get rid of fossils like Barrie Cassidy hosting Insiders?

The man scares me, those bulldog cheeks, he looks like hes 77 years old (probably a million). and he talks about things that dont matter to everyday people (like an old person does). People like him should be sitting at home watching tv wearing shorts and a hawaiian shirt

Umm that is a movie . Not real life my friend

He is a socialist dinosaur working for the not so free or impartial and yet tax funded ABC!

Only in Australia my friend! Only in Australia!

One day, Aussies will wake up at how fucked up their country really is.

Downward spiral anyone?

Based on real life events...the characters are fictitious but Castro did free the refugees from the prisons in Cuba to make their way to Florida

:lol: um no. The movie is actually a remake of a 30's movie called scar face which was inspired by the real scarface.

Oh dear.

They were prisoners that were released from the prisons not refugees.

I hope you don't think Scarface is a documentary?

Mate it's 9.00am on a Sunday morning. The only blokes watching TV on Sunday morning over the over 50's and political nerds.

He fits the demographic perfectly.

And anyway who are you going to replace him with? Rove?