Unless you're a uni student who can't access computers because you're not indigenous and complain about segregation on facey.

Who manipulated the data  ? Nasa 😀😁😂😂 that face when he heard that 

At least he countered with something a little more than making a face hey. In fact both spoke well and intelligently.

A rare commodity methinks. 

LOL

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One of them spoke intelligently. The other is from Queensland.  :)

The Queenslander was also intelligent, very articulate and presented a good argument as well.

Just because you do not agree with this argument does not mean he is not intelligent.

Isn't amazing when stupid people do that?

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Whiney Piney having a whinge over pairs ROFL.

-PB

Isn't it amazing how stupid some people are for thinking those with different views are stupid? 

It depends. If you ignore an overwhelming weight of evidence, you probably are ignorant.

There are subjective arguments where people provide opinions and debate said opinions. Then there is a discussion of evidence. People rejecting evidence on grounds that they' 'believe' the evidence is manipulated without anything to back up their statement are in fact stupid.

There are also sound arguments and evidence from some circles, and from highly qualified scientist which suggest that this warming cycle is mostly part of a natural cycle, and that the earth will eventually cool after that cycle runs its course.

I'm not going to say that these arguments are stupid, because clearly they are not stupid. But, I do believe in Climate Change and I also believe that human activity has contributed to it quite a bit, so I subscribe more to the general consensus. But we still need the alternative viewpoints as well. 

Ssh aikhme will lecture you . He knows all because he uses google

Didn't do even one Google search. What I am saying is just common knowledge if you have an open mind. 

I am aware of these arguments. My understanding is the following:

1) Changing magnetic fields. The earths polar magnetic fields changes every few hundred million years as indicated by strange dipoles in ferrous rock types. I have seen the argument made that as we are significantly overdue for a pole reversal, this could contribute to climate change.

2) The ozone layer is a flowing chemical reaction which weakens and strengthens over time. I have seen a suggestion that we do not have enough data to make a concrete assessment on the ozone layer and it's relation to climate change.

I'm not in a position to weigh in on the validity of these arguments but it appears as though there may be some negating issues associated with the climate change consensus.

There is nothing wrong with making these sorts of arguments. Saying a graph is manipulated by NASA with absolutely nothing to support that comment like the One Nation Party representative on Q&A did  is ignorant.   

Me neither. I am not in a position to weigh in on their validity.

There is another theory the climate skeptics subscribe to. That is the theory that the earth has natural warming and cooling cycles. They also say that Climate Change over the next century is likely to be attributed to a natural warming event. We do know that the earth can cool to ice age levels.

I am not going to weigh in on the validity of this argument either. 

I prefer to subscribe to the Global Warming arguments and believe that humans need to become more greener because if we do not, we could be in trouble. There is nothing at all wrong with trying to clean up the planet. 

Oh and I do not consider it beyond possibility that organisations like NASA do not manipulate data. I'm not saying they did at all. But I think both sides can potentially manipulate data to support their arguments. That's because with every argument there are counter claims. Some people are undoubtedly bullshitting! 

Peter Dutton accuses ABC, Guardian of encouraging asylum seekers not to resettle in PNG

By political reporters Anna Henderson and Stephanie AndersonUpdated 44 minutes agoPHOTO: Peter Dutton says media "offering up free advice" is counterproductive. (via Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)RELATED STORY: Nauru President claims abuse allegations 'cooked up'RELATED STORY: Manus Island detention centre to close, Dutton confirmsMAP: AustraliaImmigration Minister Peter Dutton has accused the ABC and The Guardian of encouraging asylum seekers not to resettle in Papua New Guinea.

Key points:

• Mr Dutton says media reports on Nauru files "do not help people in these centres"
• Government to look at all leaked Save the Children cases
• Mr Dutton says allegations are misrepresented and many of the 2,100 leaked reports are not serious

The Federal Government has struck a deal with Papua New Guinea to close the Manus Island detention centre, but is yet to provide a timeframe for the centre to be shut down.Mr Dutton said he wanted to see the men in the centre resettled in Papua New Guinea, and stressed they would not be relocated to Australia under any circumstances.He conceded that since the centre opened fewer than 20 detainees had agreed to be resettled in PNG, but apportioned some of the blame to advocates and media outlets.

"Academics and people from the ABC and The Guardian offering up free advice on how people should stay and not accept or take a different course of action, it's counterproductive," Mr Dutton said.

Mr Dutton refused to explicitly say whether he had full prior knowledge of the thousands of incident reports from inside the Nauru offshore detention centre that were leaked to The Guardian earlier this month."The ABC reporting on The Guardian's reports, who report on ABC reports do not help people in these centres," Mr Dutton told AM."We received correspondence from Save the Children, we do on a regular basis, they leaked the 2,100 documents that The Guardian's reporting that the ABC reports on, and we will look at each of those cases."

Incident reports misrepresented

Mr Dutton said he took the allegations very seriously."I completely abhor any violence, particularly of a sexual nature, against any people in particular women and children," he said.Mr Dutton also questioned the way the allegations were reported, saying many of the incident reports had been misrepresented."The trouble, frankly, with the approach of The Guardian and the ABC has been to trivialise the very serious issues by trying to promote the 2,100 reports as somehow all of those being serious, when they're not," he said.He said many of the reports related to the corporal punishment of children by their parents and minor assaults by detainees against other detainees.

Dutton to push for law change to block future travel

Mr Dutton told 2GB that he would be seeking Labor support to ensure that processed refugees who gain passports in their resettlement country would not be allowed to travel to Australia."There likely would be a change to some law that we would need Labor to support and we'll wait and see whether they do support that," he said.

"But I've made it clear that even if people are granted citizenship elsewhere, they're not then coming to Australia."

Offshore detention on Nauru and Manus Island was reintroduced under the former Labor government, and while Opposition Leader Bill Shorten is critical of the length of time people are spending in the facilities, he is not advocating for detainees to be moved to Australia.Western Australian Liberal Premier Colin Barnett said the state would be prepared to accept asylum seeker families if the Commonwealth reopened onshore resettlement.New federal Labor backbencher Cathy O'Toole, who represents the North Queensland seat of Herbert, told ABC News she would be open to onshore resettlement."If that's the process that we end up with and that's the outcome where we are going, for me personally yes," she said.

Dutton should be sacked: Hanson-Young

Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young said she was not convinced by Mr Dutton's response to the latest reports, saying Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull needed to intervene and sack the minister."Peter Dutton is spinning for his life here," he said."It's time that Malcolm Turnbull intervened. Malcolm Turnbull's Immigration Minister has lost control of offshore processing and lost the trust of the Australian people … he's just out swinging as much as he can, attacking everybody else."[/quote]

-PB

Malcolm gives 5 dollars to a beggar, you wont believe what happens next...

story

The media ripped on him because he had like $300 in his other hand?

Typical feral left, trying to make a charitable action into a bad thing. So so pathetic on all levels.

Yeah the outrage over this is fucking ridiculous. 

I don't exactly rate ol Malcolm, but fuck lay off him.

-PB

the thing is, whats he going to do to resolve the issues with homelessness in the first place

Granted people say: "people become homeless by their choosing" or something to that extent, but 5 dollars or giving him the money thats on his other hand isnt going to solve homeless, or that homeless's situation 

Exactly, he could give that guy 50k cash and it probably wouldn't help him ffs.

-PB

Agree. If the majority are in need  of care then no amount of cash will help them.  What they need is pyschological  care and support.  My mate  walks the streets as a salvo and they say they cant help  everyone. 

Malcolm getting directly involved in Victorian state politics with the CFA dispute.

Interesting.

-PB

Its  a state issue. What the federal government  are trying  to do is illegal  and they know it. Good  luck for trying to past this thru the upper house. 

😁😂thats not how it works m80. The federal government  cant get involved  in state  issues 

Yet here we are...

And like i stated before god luck getting  this past in the upper  house. The states are independent  fro  federal government  interference they can only get involved i  the terrorities

So according to GetUp, Malcolm is trying to sell off the ASIC corporate database where the "move could see journalists lose access to the records they need to shine a light on rampant tax dodging, shell companies, and corporate exploitation."

I can't really find much on it though?

Surely this would have to be a bill that passes through parliament?

-PB