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paladisious
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Can't believe it didn't include Eddie!
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McGuire is such a fucking snake. Hate that he dares to associate with Celtic whilst simultaneously undermining the game.
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+xMcGuire is such a fucking snake. Hate that he dares to associate with Celtic whilst simultaneously undermining the game. Where (or why) do you hear eddie ? (I dont listen to Melbourne radio or read the herald sun and don't know who most these people are)
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Enemy No. 7 125 000 000- adrtho
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Portrait v Landscape still gets me every single time I think about it
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+xEnemy No. 7 125 000 000- adrtho This.
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People who take flares to the game If you think active support isn't good enough then fuck off back to Europe or wherever it is you are trying to emulate Stop trying to out do the great work done by active support and stop trying to create a negative image for our sport just for your 15 minutes I'd also add the NRL / AFL driven FFA. Football isn't going to go anywhere in this country as a stand alone elite commercial cash cow for a handful of execs. We want an all inclusive game for players and fans. We want an ACL spot for the FFA cup, and we want a direct path to the A League. The key to the game is viability, not profitability. If you want to make money from our game - buy a licence and start a team
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+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke LOL!
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On the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend.
Full trophy cabinet (but yours looks a bit empty) ! Reigning BACK2BACK 442 A League and World Cup (Mens and Womens) Tipping Champion - so yeap, I do know best !
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City Sam
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+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. And we can actually thank video games for that one, mainly FIFA. It gets kids to learn about the sport and then want to play it. And when the next generation comes through it will be more people following football and the AFL/Rugby know that it is coming.
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paladisious
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+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. And we can actually thank video games for that one, mainly FIFA. It gets kids to learn about the sport and then want to play it. And when the next generation comes through it will be more people following football and the AFL/Rugby know that it is coming. The older generation might not understand it, but FIFA, Football Manager and all the other games are a huge boost to football that the other codes just don't have. Even the most bogan kid has played FIFA, and now with the inclusion of the A-League it's a great leg up for the generation coming through.
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+x+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. And we can actually thank video games for that one, mainly FIFA. It gets kids to learn about the sport and then want to play it. And when the next generation comes through it will be more people following football and the AFL/Rugby know that it is coming. The older generation might not understand it, but FIFA, Football Manager and all the other games are a huge boost to football that the other codes just don't have. Even the most bogan kid has played FIFA, and now with the inclusion of the A-League it's a great leg up for the generation coming through. I was watching Playschool this morning and their were 3 women on their sing "if you're happy and you know it kick a ball". I assume they are Matildas or something. I have also noticed they do acknowledge football/soccer a lot (aslo AFL) on ABC Kids. Also in all forms of media. Having not been in Australia for an extended period for 13 years it really stands out. So it is becoming part of our baby/infant/toddler culture too. :) Giggle and Hoot is a particular favourite and many kids send in pictures of them or the owls and bat playing soccer.
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Junior reporters who go fishing in the DM’s of football fans
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thewitness
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+x+x+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. And we can actually thank video games for that one, mainly FIFA. It gets kids to learn about the sport and then want to play it. And when the next generation comes through it will be more people following football and the AFL/Rugby know that it is coming. The older generation might not understand it, but FIFA, Football Manager and all the other games are a huge boost to football that the other codes just don't have. Even the most bogan kid has played FIFA, and now with the inclusion of the A-League it's a great leg up for the generation coming through. I was watching Playschool this morning and their were 3 women on their sing "if you're happy and you know it kick a ball". I assume they are Matildas or something. I have also noticed they do acknowledge football/soccer a lot (aslo AFL) on ABC Kids. Also in all forms of media. Having not been in Australia for an extended period for 13 years it really stands out. So it is becoming part of our baby/infant/toddler culture too. :) Giggle and Hoot is a particular favourite and many kids send in pictures of them or the owls and bat playing soccer. It's Caitlin Cooper, Ellie Carpenter and Michelle Heyman.
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+xJunior reporters who go fishing in the DM’s of football fans
Chris Ikonomidis can confirm.
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Slobodan Drauposevic
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+x+xJunior reporters who go fishing in the DM’s of football fans
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+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously. But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there.
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+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters
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City Sam
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+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously. But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there. Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress.
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HortoMagiko
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+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game.
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The negative stereotypes are perpetuated by people who either have no idea or are serving a vested interest; neither viewpoint should get anywhere near running Australian football - Ange Postecoglou
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+x+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously. But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there. Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress.
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Sorry paladishious and I'm sure what you say is factual but most people in Sydney would not have a clue who the people on your list are. Still good to name and shame them anyway
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paulc
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+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters.
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+x+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously. But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there. Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress. Also from Melbourne. Mmmmm. Rugby definitely doesn't have much of a hold. I'm not sure about more kids (at least lads) playing football than Aussie rules though, bogan or non-bogan areas. It's true that there's definitely a lot of kids playing football who previously wouldn't have done. I'm getting the feeling that the participation levels have the AFL concerned. But where I'm from, the majority of lads still play Aussie Rules. Also, I'm not talking about bogan areas. I'm talking about inner eastern suburbs, mostly private schools. Great word though bogan is, I think it can apply to people who are rather wealthy and/or well-educated. So for this thread, I'll say working-class, instead. I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding on this forum of the AFL's support base. It seems that many think it draws its support from the working-classes. It has a lot of support there. But part of the reason the bloody sport has had so much success is because it has successfully transcended class differences. It has a heck of a lot of support in upper-middle class and wealthy circles, too. As I say, it's rules the roost in most of the horribly expensive private schools in Melbourne, in my experience. It's ridiculously influential. Wealthy business people, bankers, barristers, specialist doctors, they'll often go to AFL matches. They are often MCC members. And they'll often be discussing AFL among themselves quite a lot. Often, they played Aussie rules as kids and their kids play it, too..
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+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion.
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
The negative stereotypes are perpetuated by people who either have no idea or are serving a vested interest; neither viewpoint should get anywhere near running Australian football - Ange Postecoglou
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