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+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. LOL if you think 6,000 is a serious crowd. No ridicule other 1. having a go at the MV fans and 2. that home semi final involving the supposedly biggest club in the land with 26,000 members confirms even they don't treat it as a serious competition. Your so called wanting improvements when you struggle to even understand the most basics is ROFL.
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City Sam
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+x+x+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously. But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there. Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress. Also from Melbourne. Mmmmm. Rugby definitely doesn't have much of a hold. I'm not sure about more kids (at least lads) playing football than Aussie rules though, bogan or non-bogan areas. It's true that there's definitely a lot of kids playing football who previously wouldn't have done. I'm getting the feeling that the participation levels have the AFL concerned. But where I'm from, the majority of lads still play Aussie Rules. Also, I'm not talking about bogan areas. I'm talking about inner eastern suburbs, mostly private schools. Great word though bogan is, I think it can apply to people who are rather wealthy and/or well-educated. So for this thread, I'll say working-class, instead. I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding on this forum of the AFL's support base. It seems that many think it draws its support from the working-classes. It has a lot of support there. But part of the reason the bloody sport has had so much success is because it has successfully transcended class differences. It has a heck of a lot of support in upper-middle class and wealthy circles, too. As I say, it's rules the roost in most of the horribly expensive private schools in Melbourne, in my experience. It's ridiculously influential. Wealthy business people, bankers, barristers, specialist doctors, they'll often go to AFL matches. They are often MCC members. And they'll often be discussing AFL among themselves quite a lot. Often, they played Aussie rules as kids and their kids play it, too.. Definitely agree with that, it generally is very popular in the wealthy private schools due to lack of working class roots in those schools and football is definitely a sport where a lot of support are those of working class origins. And with AFL being the main sport for a long time it has been passed down generation to generation with all those people looking down on football. But it is turning around from what i have been seeing.
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City Sam
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+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. What is this slash and burn idea you have?
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+x+x+x+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously. But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there. Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress. Also from Melbourne. Mmmmm. Rugby definitely doesn't have much of a hold. I'm not sure about more kids (at least lads) playing football than Aussie rules though, bogan or non-bogan areas. It's true that there's definitely a lot of kids playing football who previously wouldn't have done. I'm getting the feeling that the participation levels have the AFL concerned. But where I'm from, the majority of lads still play Aussie Rules. Also, I'm not talking about bogan areas. I'm talking about inner eastern suburbs, mostly private schools. Great word though bogan is, I think it can apply to people who are rather wealthy and/or well-educated. So for this thread, I'll say working-class, instead. I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding on this forum of the AFL's support base. It seems that many think it draws its support from the working-classes. It has a lot of support there. But part of the reason the bloody sport has had so much success is because it has successfully transcended class differences. It has a heck of a lot of support in upper-middle class and wealthy circles, too. As I say, it's rules the roost in most of the horribly expensive private schools in Melbourne, in my experience. It's ridiculously influential. Wealthy business people, bankers, barristers, specialist doctors, they'll often go to AFL matches. They are often MCC members. And they'll often be discussing AFL among themselves quite a lot. Often, they played Aussie rules as kids and their kids play it, too.. Definitely agree with that, it generally is very popular in the wealthy private schools due to lack of working class roots in those schools and football is definitely a sport where a lot of support are those of working class origins. And with AFL being the main sport for a long time it has been passed down generation to generation with all those people looking down on football. But it is turning around from what i have been seeing. Absolutely. EA Sports is our biggest ally!
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+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. LOL Mister anti-Football.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. What is this slash and burn idea you have? Paulcs just talking about the problems he has when urinating.
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
The negative stereotypes are perpetuated by people who either have no idea or are serving a vested interest; neither viewpoint should get anywhere near running Australian football - Ange Postecoglou
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+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. LOL if you think 6,000 is a serious crowd. No ridicule other 1. having a go at the MV fans and 2. that home semi final involving the supposedly biggest club in the land with 26,000 members confirms even they don't treat it as a serious competition. Your so called wanting improvements when you struggle to even understand the most basics is ROFL. Witness the backpedal. how embarrssing. didnt you say the comp will be dead in 3 years? Dont pussy out now.
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
The negative stereotypes are perpetuated by people who either have no idea or are serving a vested interest; neither viewpoint should get anywhere near running Australian football - Ange Postecoglou
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+xSorry paladishious and I'm sure what you say is factual but most people in Sydney would not have a clue who the people on your list are. Still good to name and shame them anyway Well that just highlights why they are so afraid, doesn't it?
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I'd suggest a drinking game where we take a swig whenever pauly finds a way to bring up that Hume away semi, but I don't want to be responsible for the inevitable deaths from alcohol poisoning.
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paulc
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. LOL if you think 6,000 is a serious crowd. No ridicule other 1. having a go at the MV fans and 2. that home semi final involving the supposedly biggest club in the land with 26,000 members confirms even they don't treat it as a serious competition. Your so called wanting improvements when you struggle to even understand the most basics is ROFL. Witness the backpedal. how embarrssing. didnt you say the comp will be dead in 3 years? Dont pussy out now. Nope. No back peddle. You bitters said 3 years tops when the HAL was announced in 2004 so if I ever repeated 3 years tops like so many before me then it was tongue in cheek but you're either too dumb to realize that or you are in denial, probably both.
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paulc
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+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. What is this slash and burn idea you have? His slash and burn is to destroy everything we have gained in the last 11 years so we can start again ala NSL style so his precious West Adelaide Hellas and SM Hellas can join the A-League and justify in his twisted mind that Greeks are the superior race.
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+x+x+x+x+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously. But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there. Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress. Also from Melbourne. Mmmmm. Rugby definitely doesn't have much of a hold. I'm not sure about more kids (at least lads) playing football than Aussie rules though, bogan or non-bogan areas. It's true that there's definitely a lot of kids playing football who previously wouldn't have done. I'm getting the feeling that the participation levels have the AFL concerned. But where I'm from, the majority of lads still play Aussie Rules. Also, I'm not talking about bogan areas. I'm talking about inner eastern suburbs, mostly private schools. Great word though bogan is, I think it can apply to people who are rather wealthy and/or well-educated. So for this thread, I'll say working-class, instead. I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding on this forum of the AFL's support base. It seems that many think it draws its support from the working-classes. It has a lot of support there. But part of the reason the bloody sport has had so much success is because it has successfully transcended class differences. It has a heck of a lot of support in upper-middle class and wealthy circles, too. As I say, it's rules the roost in most of the horribly expensive private schools in Melbourne, in my experience. It's ridiculously influential. Wealthy business people, bankers, barristers, specialist doctors, they'll often go to AFL matches. They are often MCC members. And they'll often be discussing AFL among themselves quite a lot. Often, they played Aussie rules as kids and their kids play it, too.. Definitely agree with that, it generally is very popular in the wealthy private schools due to lack of working class roots in those schools and football is definitely a sport where a lot of support are those of working class origins. And with AFL being the main sport for a long time it has been passed down generation to generation with all those people looking down on football. But it is turning around from what i have been seeing. If you read the fantastic book by Roy Hay and Bill Murray called "A history of Fooball in Australia," you'll realise that Australian Rules, like Rugby Union, very much had it's foundation in "Public School" (Elite Private Schools) schoolboy games and was formally organised by elites of society so it could eliminate the rougher elements and become a respectable pursuit for them to continue following school. Here it was the games played within and between Scotch and Melbourne Grammar that laid the foundation for what is now AFL. It's why AFL has had an iron grip on those schools in the east and south east for so long.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. What is this slash and burn idea you have? His slash and burn is to destroy everything we have gained in the last 11 years so we can start again ala NSL style so his precious West Adelaide Hellas and SM Hellas can join the A-League and justify in his twisted mind that Greeks are the superior race. "West Adelaide Hellas" Youre fkn retarded grandpa. i have never set foot in adelaide in my life and i probably never will. Delusional.. Ive never said a peep about them. and ivd never said any kind of bigoted shit about racial superiority. look at my history of comments and try to dig one up. you won't find one bc youre a geriatric remnant from white australia whose clock cant tick fast enough. Smfc are a viable expansion option and your flimsy propaganda is wearing thin....no onee is seeing these imaginary ethnics that haunt you. best have a lie down and cuddle your southern cross doona pops.
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
The negative stereotypes are perpetuated by people who either have no idea or are serving a vested interest; neither viewpoint should get anywhere near running Australian football - Ange Postecoglou
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. What is this slash and burn idea you have? His slash and burn is to destroy everything we have gained in the last 11 years so we can start again ala NSL style so his precious West Adelaide Hellas and SM Hellas can join the A-League and justify in his twisted mind that Greeks are the superior race. "West Adelaide Hellas" Youre fkn retarded grandpa. i have never set foot in adelaide in my life and i probably never will. Delusional.. Ive never said a peep about them. and ivd never said any kind of bigoted shit about racial superiority. look at my history of comments and try to dig one up. you won't find one bc youre a geriatric remnant from white australia whose clock cant tick fast enough. Smfc are a viable expansion option and your flimsy propaganda is wearing thin....no onee is seeing these imaginary ethnics that haunt you. best have a lie down and cuddle your southern cross doona pops. Well it might your mate I'm thinking about, you're all alike but hose imaginary ethnics you mentioned aren't allowed to play against each other in front of the general public because of ethnic violence as a flow on of wars that occurred hundreds of years ago on the other side of the world. Want to deny that as well?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. What is this slash and burn idea you have? His slash and burn is to destroy everything we have gained in the last 11 years so we can start again ala NSL style so his precious West Adelaide Hellas and SM Hellas can join the A-League and justify in his twisted mind that Greeks are the superior race. "West Adelaide Hellas" Youre fkn retarded grandpa. i have never set foot in adelaide in my life and i probably never will. Delusional.. Ive never said a peep about them. and ivd never said any kind of bigoted shit about racial superiority. look at my history of comments and try to dig one up. you won't find one bc youre a geriatric remnant from white australia whose clock cant tick fast enough. Smfc are a viable expansion option and your flimsy propaganda is wearing thin....no onee is seeing these imaginary ethnics that haunt you. best have a lie down and cuddle your southern cross doona pops. Well it might your mate I'm thinking about, you're all alike but hose imaginary ethnics you mentioned aren't allowed to play against each other in front of the general public because of ethnic violence as a flow on of wars that occurred hundreds of years ago on the other side of the world. Want to deny that as well? Please provide evidence and ill provide evidence that smfc had to play mvfc behind closed doors due to violence perptrated by mvfc fans...,, nothing racial about it.. just a bunch of dickheads. It pains me that fans of my own club would bash defenceless old men at lakeside.... anyway its a fkn stupid line of discussion,., Lets entertain paulys delusional paranoid fantasy land for a second... if smfc get in, and preston do too...and theres one whiff of violence then the perps get banned for life. Its that sinple.. it wont descend into the nuclear war that will destroy the game as u say... at best it will be a little scuffle ala rbb and nt....and bans will be handed out...finished. Youre really stretching it.,,, and thats if preston get in. i dont know if theyre viable or if theyve made the same progess smfc have to fullly becoming a broad based club... i only speak for smfc.., Youre full of shit.
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
The negative stereotypes are perpetuated by people who either have no idea or are serving a vested interest; neither viewpoint should get anywhere near running Australian football - Ange Postecoglou
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Aikhme
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+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xChannel 7 Murdoch Bogans (yep, all of them) John Hartigan Alan Jones Ron Barrasi All Cops Eddie Mcguire Sean Sowerby Koch Bernard Keane Sam Newman Neil Mitchell Ali Clarke Great list. Must add a couple to that...... 1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned. 2. Bitters 3. paulc For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny. Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game. LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters. Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve to make this list as an enemy of the game. If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. What is this slash and burn idea you have? His slash and burn is to destroy everything we have gained in the last 11 years so we can start again ala NSL style so his precious West Adelaide Hellas and SM Hellas can join the A-League and justify in his twisted mind that Greeks are the superior race. "West Adelaide Hellas" Youre fkn retarded grandpa. i have never set foot in adelaide in my life and i probably never will. Delusional.. Ive never said a peep about them. and ivd never said any kind of bigoted shit about racial superiority. look at my history of comments and try to dig one up. you won't find one bc youre a geriatric remnant from white australia whose clock cant tick fast enough. Smfc are a viable expansion option and your flimsy propaganda is wearing thin....no onee is seeing these imaginary ethnics that haunt you. best have a lie down and cuddle your southern cross doona pops. His an Ethnic Slav from FYROM. need we say more? yet his people use Hellenic symbols all the time, even on their flag. It's friggin hilarious but they are wannabe Greeks.
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Colman’s Call: Where are the countless NRL scandals and the late-night shenanigans? Roar torn apart in South Korea McGuire more than a Parker replacement Cowboys face losing Taumalolo and Scott You call this an NRL pre-season? Where are the regular scandals and the late-night shenanigans? Former NRL boss David Gallop used to call the last week of pre-season a “double demerit” period. You know, like the public holidays when police ramp up penalties in the hope of discouraging motorists from getting a bellyful and behaving like complete idiots. Or even worse, like rugby league players. In the end Gallop got so sick of his media manager John Brady ringing him at 2am during the pre-season to report the latest affront that he left the NRL and joined the FFA where he doesn’t have to worry about the behaviour of the players. Just of the supporters. But while Gallop and Brady might have gone, the memories remain. http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/opinion/colmans-call-where-are-the-countless-nrl-scandals-and-the-latenight-shenanigans/news-story/72a37ee6f861b3c33274cafeef2b3b13
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jatz
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+xOn the flip side - the friends of Australian football: 1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend. You are making an assumption that those believing in the code wars commonly make, that it is a binary decision. FFA OR AFL, but that kid playing FIFA on the playstation, walking around with a Messi shirt, playing a football game on the weekend, is still probably a NRL or AFL fan as well, and the thing is, he is probably more likely to go to a NRL or AFL game than an A-league game, because Messi doesn't play in the A-league, and the players he stuffs his FIFA online team with don`t either.
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5aa radio ( owned by newscorp ) Graham Cornes David Koch David Penburthy
All of these rave on about AFL , Adelaide Oval and how soccer needs to pull its weight , fund itself ,get rid of diving , ban nil all draws... every cliche you can think of Thankfully , this radio station is no longer a media partner of Adelaide United.
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Federal, State and Local governments who refuse to spend money on football fields for local clubs or stadia for professional clubs, whilst at the same time, dossing out millions of dollars to Aussie Rules, Rugby League, Cricket, Rugby Union. How about a fair split of the funding dollar for football.
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Love how this guys always goes on about sokkah being full of cheats, from everything from diving to walls creeping closer. Yet he was like a rabid dog defending Esendon's doping regime and absolutely pulls himself silly over Lance Armstrong.
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+x5aa radio ( owned by newscorp ) Graham Cornes David Koch David Penburthy All of these rave on about AFL , Adelaide Oval and how soccer needs to pull its weight , fund itself ,get rid of diving , ban nil all draws... every cliche you can think of Thankfully , this radio station is no longer a media partner of Adelaide United. And more importantly which media partner has taken their place? If none is the answer then this is bad news. We need as much media support our game can get, even if it means certain personalities within it will still put our game down.
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Why the lack of hate for Bourbon Becky? She may be dead but she is still an enemy of football.
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+xWhy the lack of hate for Bourbon Becky? She may be dead but she is still an enemy of football. If that article wasn't published shortly after she died I'd like to think they'd put her ghost in it.
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Nachoman
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+x+x5aa radio ( owned by newscorp ) Graham Cornes David Koch David Penburthy All of these rave on about AFL , Adelaide Oval and how soccer needs to pull its weight , fund itself ,get rid of diving , ban nil all draws... every cliche you can think of Thankfully , this radio station is no longer a media partner of Adelaide United. And more importantly which media partner has taken their place? If none is the answer then this is bad news. We need as much media support our game can get, even if it means certain personalities within it will still put our game down. Triple MMM
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I'm sorry for posting here but I couldn't find a relevant thread. I live in Melbourne and on a daily basis have anything remotely or loosely related to AFL shoved down my throat. Today was no different as I flicked through channels I saw that Ange postecoglou was coming up on 7 news, a reliable source I know but I chose to record it and go and do something else anyway. I came back and flicked through and low and behold 90% of the sports report was AFL but I persevered trying to find Anges stern face and...... nothing they had cut it! Btw the rest of the reports were nrl, local cricket and something else I can't remember but this to me is bs. The fact that a story covering our national football team can get booted for more afl and cricket makes a statement in this sporting landscape the fact it was soccah that was cut doesn't surprise me because I have been a football fan since I was a kid BUT I am disappointed I mean did they think we wouldn't notice? I don't know but considering this thread lists channel 7 as footballs no1 enemy maybe I have posted in the right spot
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Yep you posted it in the right spot.
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