Australian Football TV Ratings: Season 2016/17


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TheSelectFew - 13 Nov 2016 11:26 AM

Gee that's not bad at all, outrating most NBL games.
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Pretty good for the mv wsw game, it would of been great to crack another 100k, but the ratings are still holding up well. 
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bitza - 13 Nov 2016 12:16 PM
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Facetious. Coming from a french word for Joke, for those of you who are playing at home.

And by the way. It might not be the FFA fault either. All the shit they do which you hate is most likely forced on them by the very broadcast partner you are trying to favour.

Fox is the one who wants a start in October and no international breakes and a balanced league with only teams in major cities and a biased FFA cup draw. Etc etc.

You hate all those things but you want football to stay on fox. Your being as stupid as those US voters who want change so they voted for Trump.
 
Going to Optus or Bein is the best opportunity we have to change things for the better.  It should be just about the money but about the sport.

And all you want to do is be Facetious.




You're seriously giving Fox credit for the dumb shit the FFA have done to the game over the last few years?

You know better than that




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bluebird - 13 Nov 2016 7:14 PM
bitza - 13 Nov 2016 12:16 PM

You're seriously giving Fox credit for the dumb shit the FFA have done to the game over the last few years?

You know better than that

Starting in october and having no international breaks is clearly the request of the broadcaster.

The other decision may not be directly related ti them but iam certian Fox have pushed thibgs like a top six. 

Unless you confess your name and position on the board of the FFA or Foxtel there is no way you can convince me otherwise.

Everything else is just opinion and speculation so lets not bore everyone.

You think football has to stay at Fox no matter what other people offer. Thats your opinion. I disagree. I want to see it go to the best partner. Thats not always who gives the most money.

And for eveyone who says Fox created the Football fans and is the home of football etc. Etc. Let me be the first to say its not. I know of lots of people who talk football to me at work etc. and most of them dont have Foxtel.


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bitza - 13 Nov 2016 9:39 PM
bluebird - 13 Nov 2016 7:14 PM

Starting in october and having no international breaks is clearly the request of the broadcaster.

The other decision may not be directly related ti them but iam certian Fox have pushed thibgs like a top six. 

Unless you confess your name and position on the board of the FFA or Foxtel there is no way you can convince me otherwise.

Everything else is just opinion and speculation so lets not bore everyone.

You think football has to stay at Fox no matter what other people offer. Thats your opinion. I disagree. I want to see it go to the best partner. Thats not always who gives the most money.

And for eveyone who says Fox created the Football fans and is the home of football etc. Etc. Let me be the first to say its not. I know of lots of people who talk football to me at work etc. and most of them dont have Foxtel.


What are the ratings for EPL games on Optus and how do they compare with Fox?




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bluebird - 14 Nov 2016 7:13 AM
bitza - 13 Nov 2016 9:39 PM

What are the ratings for EPL games on Optus and how do they compare with Fox?

If you want to compare the current deal with the last deal, then we need to look at the whole package. So let's not just look at optus vs fox let's look at optus and SBS vs fox.

Give me the top ten EPL games last year (if ten games  actually got in the top 20 programs)   and we can compare them to this years 1st 10 games ratings so far and I think you will have to admit. They are better. Overall more people ratings wise will see the EPL this year.

Fox may not be the best partner. Until the deal comes out you are no wiser then me. If you want to close the book on optus (and Being by the way) you are deliberately being ignorant.

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bitza - 14 Nov 2016 7:43 AM
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If you want to compare the current deal with the last deal, then we need to look at the whole package. So let's not just look at optus vs fox let's look at optus and SBS vs fox.

Give me the top ten EPL games last year (if ten games  actually got in the top 20 programs)   and we can compare them to this years 1st 10 games ratings so far and I think you will have to admit. They are better. Overall more people ratings wise will see the EPL this year.

Fox may not be the best partner. Until the deal comes out you are no wiser then me. If you want to close the book on optus (and Being by the way) you are deliberately being ignorant.

Can you please tell me which pubs and venues show Optus sports

The EPL may be more visible than last year with an FTA component but the A League already has one, and will have one with the next TV deal. The reach of the A League will be judged by FTA v FTA and subscription v subscription. The important thing is to make an equal or forward step in terms of reach, and a forward step in terms of money. If we make a step forward on one platform, and a step backwards on another, critics will rightfully point out that moving to the platform which gave us a backwards step was needless

Fox may not be the best subscription partner...but yeah...it is




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http://footyindustry.com/files/ffa/media/tvratings/2016-17/2016-17HALRatings.png

In order, by Foxtel Ratings

http://footyindustry.com/files/ffa/media/tvratings/2016-17/2016-17HALRatings_top30.png
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After Rd 6 .. 30 games 
40 ==== 2 == 6%
50 ==== 3 == 10%
60 ==== 4 == 14%
70 ==== 3 == 10%
80 ==== 6 == 20%
90 ==== 3 == 10%
100 === 6 == 20%
125 === 3 == 10%
Total 30 games .. 



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bluebird - 14 Nov 2016 11:29 AM
bitza - 14 Nov 2016 7:43 AM

Can you please tell me which pubs and venues show Optus sports

The EPL may be more visible than last year with an FTA component but the A League already has one, and will have one with the next TV deal. The reach of the A League will be judged by FTA v FTA and subscription v subscription. The important thing is to make an equal or forward step in terms of reach, and a forward step in terms of money. If we make a step forward on one platform, and a step backwards on another, critics will rightfully point out that moving to the platform which gave us a backwards step was needless

Fox may not be the best subscription partner...but yeah...it is
Well there are 60 pubs/clubs in my area.

http://www.gameonlivesports.com.au/Find-EPL-Venues.aspx

And you don't include the other platforms we move into going onto another broadcaster.
Online.

Fox have little presence in this area mainly because their foxtel go online thingy is crap and overpriced (much like their standard service)

But both optus and bein have online and TV subscription methods to watch their game.

I am not saying fox is the worst. But you can't prove that a move elsewhere cannot benefit our game either.



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Midfielder - 14 Nov 2016 11:43 AM
After Rd 6 .. 30 games 
40 ==== 2 == 6%
50 ==== 3 == 10%
60 ==== 4 == 14%
70 ==== 3 == 10%
80 ==== 6 == 20%
90 ==== 3 == 10%
100 === 6 == 20%
125 === 3 == 10%
Total 30 games .. 



Its rough (im trying to standardise my records atm) but this is all matches over 100k from 2012-2016, plus whatever ive been able to find from 2010 and 2011.
http://footyindustry.com/files/ffa/media/tvratings/2016-17/2016-17HALRatings_100kplus.png

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Fox Sports TV Ratings after 6 rounds:

12-13: 96k
13-14: 88k
14-15: 77k
15-16: 60k
16-17: 86k

So we have improved significantly on last season and back to where we were in 13-14k

For interest, crowds after 6 as follows:

12-13: 14.2k
13-14: 15.4k
14-15: 16.3k
15-16: 13.2k
16-17: 14.8k


Combined, it suggests a solid if not spectacular start to the season. 2013-14 outperforms with both higher TV ratings and crowds. And the 2012-13 and 2014-15 seasons outperform on Fox Sports TV ratings and crowds respectively.

The trend this year is all in the right direction after a bad season last year, but it'd be worthwhile remembering that we are still consolidating our 10 current teams and not growing so aggressively as to necessitate expansion. The year on year comparison this year will always be favourable given the low base from last year, just need to consider the longer term trend in setting expectations.
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MC has the highest low rating.Cahill effect?
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Its rough (im trying to standardise my records atm) but this is all matches over 100k from 2012-2016, plus whatever ive been able to find from 2010 and 2011.
http://footyindustry.com/files/ffa/media/tvratings/2016-17/2016-17HALRatings_100kplus.png

Thanks its a great spreadsheet
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W-League WSW v Syd   ABC 64k,     Fox 23k.
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Gyfox - 14 Nov 2016 6:09 PM
W-League WSW v Syd   ABC 64k,     Fox 23k.

Gyfox - 14 Nov 2016 6:09 PM
W-League WSW v Syd   ABC 64k,     Fox 23k.

Thats impressive 


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Thats impressive 


How women aren't getting paid fairly after these ratings is staggering. Not to mention the money that they bring into football from the women's aspect of football. 


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Gyfox - 14 Nov 2016 6:09 PM
W-League WSW v Syd   ABC 64k,     Fox 23k.

Wow, sfc mens viewers were 66k, good for the wleague, bad for sydney fc men , no wonder they will try anything to protect its dwindling crowds and viewers from another sydney team. ( and they have had an amazing campaign so far).whats going on ?

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TheSelectFew - 14 Nov 2016 7:18 PM
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How women aren't getting paid fairly after these ratings is staggering. Not to mention the money that they bring into football from the women's aspect of football. 

Just to try offer an explanation to this, after going through public Australian Sport Financial Statements revenues tend to roughly be sourced as follows per club:

30% Membership and tickets
15% Corporate boxes/hospitality
15% Sponsorship
25% TV deal money/Governing body grant
15% Other sources (social clubs)

There seems to be unrealised value in the W-League TV deal and W-League gate takings (4,000 people to the Sydney Derby).
Ignoring the social club revenue that AFL and NRL clubs are reliant on, there needs to be a bigger push to sell W-League matches as a corporate event product (via better venues, possibly via double headers with A-League matches) as well as increased sponsorship value which is driven by LEAGUE wide metrics like attendances and viewers.
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SoccerLogic - 14 Nov 2016 9:32 PM
TheSelectFew - 14 Nov 2016 7:18 PM

Just to try offer an explanation to this, after going through public Australian Sport Financial Statements revenues tend to roughly be sourced as follows per club:

30% Membership and tickets
15% Corporate boxes/hospitality
15% Sponsorship
25% TV deal money/Governing body grant
15% Other sources (social clubs)

There seems to be unrealised value in the W-League TV deal and W-League gate takings (4,000 people to the Sydney Derby).
Ignoring the social club revenue that AFL and NRL clubs are reliant on, there needs to be a bigger push to sell W-League matches as a corporate event product (via better venues, possibly via double headers with A-League matches) as well as increased sponsorship value which is driven by LEAGUE wide metrics like attendances and viewers.

Hit the nail on the head. I think there needs to be more of a push for TV revenue from this because I bet they sold the womens rights for peanuts. It would explain why they dont give much to women. To save face on what they could have had.


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vThailand WCQ - Foxsports 4 - 100,000
http://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tuesday-15-november-2016/2138

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Unbelievable rating for a 11pm kick off 
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How were the ch 9 ratings?
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crimsoncrusoe - 16 Nov 2016 11:29 AM
How were the ch 9 ratings?

Didnt make the top 20 in either main or multi channels. Mediaweek hasnt reported them which is usually the only other option.

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This game wasn't as widely advertised as the home games have been on Fta.
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The_Wookie - 16 Nov 2016 12:10 PM
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Didnt make the top 20 in either main or multi channels. Mediaweek hasnt reported them which is usually the only other option.

Mediaweek seem stuck on the same tweet way back on Nov 10..... any idea if they have stopped tweeting various ratings or any idea why no more tweets are coming on anything... I noticed on the last tweet its got pinned in the top left hand corner not sure what that means unless this is were it stops... 
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Midfielder - 18 Nov 2016 2:55 PM
The_Wookie - 16 Nov 2016 12:10 PM

Mediaweek seem stuck on the same tweet way back on Nov 10..... any idea if they have stopped tweeting various ratings or any idea why no more tweets are coming on anything... I noticed on the last tweet its got pinned in the top left hand corner not sure what that means unless this is were it stops... 

The top tweet is a pinned tweet

Like this forum it means it sticks to the top so it is the most visible. If you scroll the immediate next tweet you'll see all the tweets for the week

Ratings that don't make the top 20 are seldom posted unless specifically requested. I don't use twitter so perhaps somebody can ask MediaWeek specifically what the ratings were as I am sure they have access to the full dataset only available to subscribers

It basically means either everyone with FTA went to bed at 11pm or there is no truth to people flicking between 3 stations and choosing live sport




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bluebird - 18 Nov 2016 5:12 PM
Midfielder - 18 Nov 2016 2:55 PM

The top tweet is a pinned tweet

Like this forum it means it sticks to the top so it is the most visible. If you scroll the immediate next tweet you'll see all the tweets for the week

Ratings that don't make the top 20 are seldom posted unless specifically requested. I don't use twitter so perhaps somebody can ask MediaWeek specifically what the ratings were as I am sure they have access to the full dataset only available to subscribers

It basically means either everyone with FTA went to bed at 11pm or there is no truth to people flicking between 3 stations and choosing live sport

Mediaweek are pretty much the sole source for ratings outside the top 20, but Mediaweek occasionally miss mon-thu fixtures - even if they are in the top 20.

In this case its likely that the ratings both failed to make the top 20 (since they werent reported anywhere else), and being mid week failed to be posted by Mediaweek. best bet is to ask whoever does their weekend twitter account.

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bluebird - 18 Nov 2016 5:12 PM
Midfielder - 18 Nov 2016 2:55 PM

The top tweet is a pinned tweet

Like this forum it means it sticks to the top so it is the most visible. If you scroll the immediate next tweet you'll see all the tweets for the week

Ratings that don't make the top 20 are seldom posted unless specifically requested. I don't use twitter so perhaps somebody can ask MediaWeek specifically what the ratings were as I am sure they have access to the full dataset only available to subscribers

It basically means either everyone with FTA went to bed at 11pm or there is no truth to people flicking between 3 stations and choosing live sport

It wasn't 11 pm in Perth.  Thailand hardly sets hearts a flutter, and it was an expected easy win.  
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