What's WP got to do with whether MV should be happy with their attendances after 12 years in by far the biggest franchise zone?

No. Per capita is a shit argument.

So just because Welly get 7k every week, that should be OK because they have a smaller population? No. It's a straw man argument. They keep getting these crowds and they'll be gone.

Not sure that's true.  That's really just the impression because they are the biggest.

MV was the only Team in the whole state for the first 5 years, still only 2 in Victoria.
The City of Melbourne, with it's 'sports mad' population of over 4 million.

If you're going to dick-measure, Per Capita should be the test of attendance surely ?

We do realize that Pirtek is being rebuilt and we are playing at an oval in Homebush right? 

Capacity issues arise when you cannot sell any more tickets to the game. Has nothing to do with 14k being at the game.

Now 19k members, imagine having 1k tickets available to the general public all year round in a 20k Pirtek stadium?

Do you actually believe the shit you say, or is it tongue in cheek? You still can't pull a decent crowd even when you are not capped by stadium capacity. The derby crowd had little to do with you suddenly having stadium capacity, the 7 or 8 games which followed it are the true indicator, and the results are poor. You never really even had capacity issues at Parra pulling 11-14k crowds every week. And I've never had a problem with derbies being excluded from the attendance count comparisons because we have had a higher non-derby average attendance than you every year except one, our shit sandwich of a year last year where you finished 2nd/2nd.

Now show us snap 45 mins to 2 hours before the game when people are making a decision about the game. 

Unlike what u might think most people make plans at least more than 5 mins out from the kick off of a match.

So yes.great shot of the sky more tha  10 mins into the game...

Yeah ur right wsw with not having to be capped at parra are getting massive crowds now of wait for it 9k.... 

And today was a shockingly good weather day. Everyone prefers to go dyring the pouring rain on a friday night right? Oh thats right they did about 2k more did it on friday despite the derby home game the week before.

Wsw its true is on  a bad run, but their fans always pride themselves as not being fairweather supporters yet if anything they are no different to sydney. Leas than half the members rocked up to their game today. Perhaps they should start allowing pets in so that the majority of their members can actually go and watch the games...

I hate community rounds. I wasn't going to watch us play out of Campbelltown stadium and even worse having to pay for it as its not part of our membership package. 

Good to see the Sydney FC fans return to their original club. No loyalty in Sydney. 

Crowd - WSW vs Jets = 9477

Victory have had the highest crowds each season since their inception except for 2005/06, the first year of the A-League, yep.

It'll be interesting to see who comes out ahead with WSW hosting two derbies at Homebush, we still have a derby and a big blue at Docklands left though so hopefully we'll keep ahead of you guys.

I'm confident that Victory would keep the record not including derbies for all four Melbourne and Sydney clubs for some time, however.

Its funny you smurphs all a sudden in 2016-17 are leaving out derbys when making crowd comparisons, when previous 3 years will include them like your life depended on it.

The first year WSW are not capped by stadium capacity and you can see the results. We got 1 more derby to come, you going to show up or is cyclonic conditions/monsoon going to stop you this time? haha

Pot calling kettle black no?

Now lets face it 11200 when you are on a invincible run is dreadful.

Also leaving out Derbys because it does not suit you is week as piss.

MVFC 21,843
Draw kings WSW 20,166
INVINCIBLES  18,015

Wanderers also have another home derby which will put us at record crowds for our clubs short history, heck we might even take victory this year which would be a first i think.

@ nulla28

While there's a fair bit of banter between fans and quite a bit of pleasure taken by opposing fans the reality is there's only Victory that can be happy with their attendances.

But you raise some good points (forget the weather as you can't control that) but things like scheduling can be controlled - too often we see sides play away for 2 or theee weeks and then follow up with back to back home games. How hard can it be to plan a simple HAHAHA schedule?

And the bigger drawing clubs should be favoured with with Saturday draws. The Nix would have hit 5,500 on Friday night but Sydney would have put 2k on by playing Saturday even if the weather was the same.

The ffa need to smarten up. Crowds are stagnating and their scheduling is not helping imo

While the Sydney crowd was embarrassing given our results and style of play this season, what were you all expecting?

Friday night games have never resulted in big crowds for us. Have you ever tried driving in Sydney during peak hour on a Friday evening?

Heavy rain on various occasions throughout the day with an initial forecast for storms in the night. Have you ever sat in the SFS in the rain? Most of the seats aren't covered by the roof. Families see that forecast and make an early call to stay in and watch in on TV.

Around 30,000 Sydney fans attended last Saturday. Another home game 6 days later is always going to tank, as illustrated by Davo in a number of games in various cities throughout the season. There is usually a hang over in crowd numbers after each derby in particular.

Overall, it is a shame that more people have not been in attendance to experience what we have achieved so far this season. But, in perspective, excluding derbies:
Sydney FC average crowd = 14,858
Wanderers average crowd = 13,217
Excluding Victory whose average has only been in competition with itself since about Season 2, the only team that should be talking shit about Sydney's crowds is Brisbane. Excellent average of 15,705. You get 2,500 more at every game than the mighty WSW whose "support" the media always seems to crow about.

I believe the FFA will bring in an emergency team, like South Sydney, in 3 years time once the Nix's progress check-up (crowds, members, ratings etc.) fall short of requirements. However, there will also be the two expansion teams on top of that, South Melbourne & Wollongong for example.

Meanwhile, I believe Sydney's problem isn't that people don't like "soccer", but that they have such a large market all for themselves (2 million- or so) they can't settle on whether to aggressively target inner Sydney or the whole of Sydney (excl. West Syd). Perhaps it's time to decide and settle on one marketing plan.

11,271 for Perth vs Victory, bigger crowd than Sydneys.

FFA already working on it I reckon, new team in next season then two after that.

Seriously- Nix have to go.

6,449 Nix vs Roar

Agree, it is more to do with marketing than any other excuse.
If you don't follow the league closely you wouldn't have known the game was on, let alone have a reason to part with $40 to get in. Its a regular occurrence on the train for people to ask why there are so many people on the train with Sydney FC shirts on the way to a game, before it clicks and they ask who the away team is. The derbies are the only game that people seem to have any knowledge about.

RIP Cameraman. Heroically died in the sydney cyclone trying to defend FC's integrity. Sadly, he died in vein.

Oh yes monsoon/cyclonic conditions haha

No matter the excuse it is a garbage effort from the Sky blues, bloody hell its an invincible run for crying out loud.

We only have 11k members, that's less than our avg attendance (minus the set by games)

Some clubs like WSW have 18k members. How often do they show up.

Not sure about the wind levels but the game did stink. 

Hail, rain or shine a true fan would turn up to support their team. I don't think Sydney FC have many true supporters, they just turn up for games against their hated enemy and if they have a big name player making a debut.  

How was the wind though, if you had to base it on a level, was it as bad as this?

Actually, the city only received 7 mm's between 11.30 and 2 pm, and another .6 of a mm between 7-7.30 pm. Periods in between those hours were mostly dry, so there WASN'T torrential rain all day.
The Severe Thunderstorm warning for the metro area was cancelled around 3 pm.
Pathetic excuse considering it was based on lies.

Very good points raised