No. the marquees are one of the anomalies that i was talking about. You think its smart for one player to be paid more than the entire league if ffa say its ok but not by world standards where there is no cap. Youre contradicting yourself.

"No it won't. People aren't going to watch a league where only one team can win the title."
Says who? How the fk would you know?  We are in uncchareted territory, with only the mls as a guide, and youre professsing to know the future. Well Every football league in the world begs to differ with you.

Youre just speculating and fear mongering. 

You have a long way to go to prove to anyone that one team will win the league.

The Championship is won by a team of Champions - good players with good team work, not a team of 1 or 2 stars.

The stars however will entice the Football purist who don't really care as much about any particular team over and above the sport and its development in this country. 

Your argument seems to be based on unsolicited opinion, fear-mongering and fear of change itself. 

Melbourne City have for a long time spent more than any other team and they have not been able to convert this to trophies in the cabinet. 

Has nothing to do with how "elite" the league is. There are a heap of leagues around the world that have salary caps that aren't the elite league.

Association football leagues?  I doubt it.

If the salary cap is removed are all the owners going to stay around when the price of owning a competitive team suddenly sky rockets?
Will they stump up more of their own money to keep clubs a float?
Will they be able to raise more money due to the increase in the quality of the top of the league that is able to buy better players?

The salary cap certainly does punish success, both on and off the field, that is part of what it is designed to do. 
The salary cap also rewards clubs in the short term who are able to recruit well, find talent on the cheap.
It can reward teams that can develop young talent.
However without the salary cap it might force those without the financial resources to get even better at recruiting and developing talent, provided the clubs still exist.

I am too stupid to fully understand the ramifications of removing the salary cap on the survival of less financially well off clubs but removing the cap without being sure the competition does not lose clubs would be a huge mistake.

Why would that be better for our overall pool of players?

Because the best are playing with the best and developing an understanding. This translates to when they play for the shokkazoos. 

Is there anything concrete in your argument or are you just going to create strawmen arguments and hypothericals. We have clear cases you can refer to yet choose not to. 

None of the leagues that aufc_ole mentioned were association football leagues.

You seem to imply that club owners will not somehow find a way to survive in the league.

This is more fear mongering and as you can see from dozens of leagues around the world that do not have a salary cap, the sky has not caved in. On the contrary, the other teams remain competitive and survive.

Abolition of salary cap will just mean that about 4 to 5 teams will be dominant but it will not necessarily translate to trophies as it is unlikely that teams like Melbourne City or Melbourne Victory will just open the purse strings without engaging proper business cost evaluation processes. No team or business person will just throw away their money. 

It could however help the league to recruit proper real Football Stars rather than a few has beens. Imagine the draw card and the media interest for one, and the other teams would be eager to play against them on the same field. It's inspiring and the quality of our game will inevitably rise and our young players will improve too. 

It's a win for every single club and the league in its entirety. Far more important than the CCM winning the league which they could still do provided they recruit well and play as a cohesive unit with great team play and chemistry. 

You just need to look at the rammifications of having the salary cap. You dont need to look at the "rammifications", as it were, of removing a rule that didn't belong there in the first place. 

That's the opposite of improving the overall pool of players and the best still aren't going to be playing here in the A-league.

We have nothing in common with these leagues either. 

There is no international talent pool these leagues can recruit from for one, unlike Association Football. 

Melbourne City and a couple of other teams like Sydney, WSW, and MVFC could bring some top caliber players into the A League. The more that they spend, the better quality of the players they will entice and recruit. 

How that is a bad thing is beyond me. 

So why hasnt every league in the world fallen over then? By your logic removing the cap is a doomsday scenario,..its a huge call youre making... so pls explain why your propaganda doesnt play out in the real world? 

I don't agree with any of your post sorry but I'm curious why we'll be able to get proper real Football Stars without a cap when clubs could sign them now as marquees?

Horto ruining another thread I see, should be banned imo. :Whistling:

sub007,

can you please stop adding your replies in red within my quoted text? It just makes it difficult when others need to quote your response. 

The clear example here is Spain and the UK. The big spenders have more chance of dominating - Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barcelona. But that didn't stop the likes of Leicester City either. 

But imagine if the EPL and La Liga were salary capped. The greatness of these clubs will not be there for all to admire.

If you can't admire a superior team playing great football and the finesse of these great players because your team is lower on the league because it doesn't have the budget, then you are not a Football fan. You are just a parochial fan of some club who doesn't care about the quality as long as your team wins.

for me, it's about the Football, and when my team does beat a big spending team with big budget it will be something to truly savior! 

You should be banned from procreation.

Do they have the same international aspect and competition like football does?

I love watching great players and I love a smaller club beating a big spender don't get me wrong but the problem I have is that the teams with the richest owner nearly always win. In my opinion success shouldn't be bought.

I think you quoted the wrong post. Anyway basketball is almost as huge as football and there is a massive international talent pool of players. Rugby League and Union also have international talent pools and have capped leagues. Ice Hockey is another.

I've already asked why you think they'll get better (I assume international) players without a cap? They have a marquee rule already and this is who they have:
Victory: Berisha, Bozanic
City: Fornaroli, Colazo
WSW: Martinez
Sydney: Holosko, Bobo

All perfectly decent players but are any of those that much better than some of the non-marquee visa players? Maybe Fornaroli and Berisha but they came here within the salary cap.

Where it's damaging is that City and the others will take the good Australian players from the clubs with a smaller wage bill. A bunch of inexperienced kids and NPL players are going to have a tough time being "organised" enough to win anything.

No they can't. They have to use allocated funds from what is called a marquee fund. that is capped as well. I am not an expert at how it works, but no team in the A league is able to recruit a big name star from Europe or South America, because the funds are just clearly not there.

If however, there were no limitations, the likes of Melbourne City and a few others could potentially recruit real marquees rather than some has beens which are past their best. 

Not sure of the reasoning there

Let's be honest here.

The above are not really Marquees because the FFA calls them so. Fornaroli for instance was a washout from the Greek Super League. he couldn't take a trick there and here is is all of a sudden a marquee, which in my opinion says a lot about the standard of our league. 

That will not be the case all the time.

Yes, the big clubs will win a lot. But they won't be unbeatable. 

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Bahahaha. Spl... we have bundesliga, la liga, epl, eridivise, serie a......not to mention all the sth american leagues... and let alone our own confed jleague etc......... and you choose spl as your go-to. How convenient. And ridiculous. And indicative of the small bubble you live in, in terms of football.

That's a bit of a loaded question because we all know "Football is the most international and competitive blah blah blah" but yes they're international and have competition.