The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)


The Orange Army. (Brisbane Roar Official Thread)

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Entertaining game last night. Good changes to starting XI by JA but should have had Theo out as well. These thoughts were vindicated after the game as well. Theo can't stop a difficult shot if his life depended on it. How many more blunders and loss of points because of Theo will JA wait for befor dumping him? Not all his fault of course but enough is enough.

Roar look much more settled and played the ball well with Arana in lieu of Mac. And it was effective. It's the way Roar play best.

I'm also happy Kristensen now gets substituted. He's a good player and clever but is too slow and lacks the aggression to close down players leaving all the hard work to Matty.

JA's tactics were excellent. Bad luck with Berisha send off as MV parking the bus didn't suit Mac or the hopeless attack. Credit where credit is due to JA for this game however surely his eyes must be wide open to needing a another good striker by now. Just look at the power up front MV has. We missed a player like Henrique in the second half.

I still don't believe Roar will make the top unless JA abandons the "let's hoof it to Jamie" tactics. Last night proved we are much better without it. Well done the boys for a gutsy effort nevertheless.

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Thank you Brisbane for drawing the Red card against Berisha.

That was well played! 
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We have several players being selected that aren't in form - Theo, Maclaren are the two worst offenders but North and Borrello aren't too far behind. (What striker passes the ball like Borrello did - can't imagine Berisha, Rojas passing there ffs).

JAs blown the season by the half-way point, the shadows from his Heart days grows a little longer each day and his press conferences are becoming painful having blamed the quality of his training pitch for 4 consecutive draws he now says we're on the right track after 3 defeats. wtf????

But the team aren't far away - frustratingly inconsistent JA just needs to toughen up and pick on form not reputation.

He got unlucky last night, Bes got sent off a minute after Maclaren came on, from that point in there wasn't any space for Maccers to run into. But I would have kept Arana on with Maccers, Arana seems to bring other players in to the game and might be the spark Jamie needs because he's incapable of doing it himself.
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Waz - 14 Jan 2017 11:58 AM
We have several players being selected that aren't in form - Theo, Maclaren are the two worst offenders but North and Borrello aren't too far behind. (What striker passes the ball like Borrello did - can't imagine Berisha, Rojas passing there ffs). JAs blown the season by the half-way point, the shadows from his Heart days grows a little longer each day and his press conferences are becoming painful having blamed the quality of his training pitch for 4 consecutive draws he now says we're on the right track after 3 defeats. wtf????But the team aren't far away - frustratingly inconsistent JA just needs to toughen up and pick on form not reputation. He got unlucky last night, Bes got sent off a minute after Maclaren came on, from that point in there wasn't any space for Maccers to run into. But I would have kept Arana on with Maccers, Arana seems to bring other players in to the game and might be the spark Jamie needs because he's incapable of doing it himself.

Yes, for mine the wingers (Borello and Oar) were ineffective last night, and therefore it would have been a better option to have played JMac and Arana as twin strikers with a 4 man midfield. The overlapping by Brown has been good. Why doesn't Oar take on his man these days?
How wedded are we to the 4-3-3 formation? Its certainly not working with very few cut backs from the by line.
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Since Roar have tried to play football,they have looked more vulnerable at the back.Full points for a gutsy fightback last night.But Roar have a Mariners feel about them at the moment .8 goals conceded in three games is not good enough.
It's very hard to pinpoint a single cause,because across the park there are problems.So many frustrating players to watch.It's getting to the stage I don't enjoy watching us play.
Too many turnovers by too many players.Too many poor options,poor passes and delayed passing.
Watching Troisi win the ball on the right wing and beat off defenders ,like speed bumps to send a pass through for Theo and North to imitate a North Korean Goal Keeper for the second goal was absolutley pitiful.
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@ foitballkings55

We're floating in and out of 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1. Not sure it's effective.
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Waz - 14 Jan 2017 12:18 PM
@ foitballkings55We're floating in and out of 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1. Not sure it's effective.

When we know the opposition have quality out wide, we give them space to work in as we set up. Dropping our wide forwards back would close the space and be a better defensive set up. Look at how hard Victory were to penetrate with 2 sets of 4 for the last 30 minutes.
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There are many thing wrong with the Roar at present and just as many potential solutions to consider.
To keep it simple here are some more obvious ones .

When a team loses a player and parks the bus it is always a problem, at any level,but especially so when a team has skilled defenders like Victory .
Solution - move the ball from side to side to stretch and tire players...here is the important part...do it very quickly !!!
If you move the ball slowly across the pitch or when it gets halfway across you stop ,have a look around , then return it back to the side it just came from, it doesn't worry oppositions at all .
The ball must be zipped from player to player right across the pitch, not slowly ambled over there.

Secondly this should be how we play against 11 men as well.
Moving side to side stretches defenses wide and should creates holes in the middle . If it doesn't it should create openings down the touchline to cut balls back.
This is a defenders worst nightmare .
Ask any team trying to defend against Kamau at City ....

All sound too simplistic ?
Good ...it is a simple game and works best when played that way.


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They did move the ball from side to side but as you say not quick enough. But to penetrate you need players with good ball control/ skills willing to play quick one twos. That's the first thing. Secondly Roar has always had success when the whole team, especially the midfield work tirelessly to shut down the opposition. Whilst Kristensen is good in many aspects he is slow and completely lacks aggression. We had the same issue with Corona last season except Corona was a class above.

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The only change Aloisi needs to make is to replace himself and his angry little brother with real coaches.
A very good squad of players with good additions and exciting youth players going backwards because of the poor quality of the entire football department.

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Bit harsh

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Really need a result against Phoenix next week. Team starting to wobble
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Forget the results look at what is wrong, the team doesnt function well in any of the main moments and hasnt improved this season but got worse.

The only saving grace is the quality of most of the individuals.
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When is the squad announced for the ACL game(s) coming up?
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Roar to face Global FC from the Philippines next week, they won 2-0 last night.
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Hey waz brown
Your a tool
Without Jmac brisbane would have less points than central coast.
Luckily your not his agent.

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With Dimi Petratos joining the Jets next season, likely they might get Jmac to stay. Shame, would've taken Petratos in the lineup over him
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@ JonoMV

I'm not sure there's much that's going to keep Maccers at Roar next season, seems the relationship has broken down.

But Petratos has to fight either Holman for a starting place or move to the wing where's he's not best suited and displace Borrello. This is the reality of a salary capped league though - Jets probably offered him $40-$50k more so he's gone, plus he's near his and his wife's family. Not a hard choice. But it's a good signing for Jets, their fans deserve some good signings. If they're smart they'll also sign lustica who's wasting away at wanderers.
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Waz - 25 Jan 2017 11:54 AM
@ JonoMVI'm not sure there's much that's going to keep Maccers at Roar next season, seems the relationship has broken down. But Petratos has to fight either Holman for a starting place or move to the wing where's he's not best suited and displace Borrello. This is the reality of a salary capped league though - Jets probably offered him $40-$50k more so he's gone, plus he's near his and his wife's family. Not a hard choice. But it's a good signing for Jets, their fans deserve some good signings. If they're smart they'll also sign lustica who's wasting away at wanderers.

Fair points, I would take Petratos over Holman tbh.. my god can't believe you have Holman and Oar as marquees next season :( Terrible.

I think Lustica is done, He was a bench warmer "wasting away" everywhere except his first season at the Roar. Hasn't been a regular starter for four seasons in the A League.


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@ jonoMV

It's a test for Moore/Aloisi's recruitment skills tbh. Oar and Holman fit Roars marquee profile reasonably well, solid but not necessarily spectacular so I'm not fased by that but I too would have taken Dimi over Holman at 10.

Maccers needs to avoid injury and start scoring and someone will take him on, DeVere I recon will re-sign as he's only 6 months in to rehabilitation and I doubt he'd risk a new club right now, when you've been that close to finishing your career why risk it?

I'm hoping Roar elevate a few kids, I'm fed up with seeing them play first team football for other HAL clubs having failed to break through Roars ranks
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Agreed make or break time for Aloisi. I'm not 100% sure about arana. But he can fill petrat role. It really makes sense for him to leave for hopefully and stable jets being one of their top players.

Roar really needs a rebuild I personally hope for some more players from our youth team. They constantly performed well at the youth and NPL level. 

I forget how young Dimi is being only 24. I thinks a good move for him to now being a leader at the jets.
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JonoMV - 25 Jan 2017 11:28 AM
With Dimi Petratos joining the Jets next season, likely they might get Jmac to stay. Shame, would've taken Petratos in the lineup over him

Jmac leaving is not a forgone conclusion. word at the coaches meeting last night was Petratos was leaving (turned out to be correct) and that Luke DeVere had signed a new long term contract. If BRFC can keep DeVere and Maclaren they'll be doing better than most but I'd say they would take either one

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I think Aloisi has generally done a solid job in recruitment. Plus he has done a good job given the utter shit situations the club has found themselves in the past two off seasons. 

Maclaren - Good
Corona - Good
Oar - Solid (Not marquee quality though), have yet to see him beat a player, crosses aimlessley too much. Maybe if you guys have a bigger striker he would be more effective. 
Kristensen - Excellent
Holman - Ok (Not marquee quality)
Arana - not sure, shows elements of being a good pick up but at the moment I will say it is a nothing pick up. Expect better from a Visa player
Pepper - Ok, plays his role.
Hervas - Poor

He let go of Clut which he received a decent amount of criticism for, turned out he was largely correct about it.

Generally speaking, Brisbane have a good history of recruitment, something like 19 players around the league (Who do not play for Brisbane) started at Brisbane. More than any team. 

I do think Petratos is a big loss though, he is one of the few players who can regularly score for you guys from outside the box. Has that individual ability to turn a game around when things are not going your way. For example his free kicks over the years when Brisbane were playing poorly. 
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@ JonoMV

I'd say that's a pretty fair summary.

He's also done a good job attracting young talent to the club (O'Toole, Rowkes, Katebian etc)

If there's a question mark it's about youth promotion but to be fair to JA it's still early. But he has done a good job and I suspect he's under a fair amount of self-imposed pressure following heart

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I think part of attracting good youth players is that there good promotion from within. So we have to maintain that. 

I agree that Aloisi has been good with recruitment. The only thing is we are losing our game winners with Ricky and petrat. 
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Ricky was a mistake - I do know they are considering bringing him back for next season though
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Would like to see us promote some young players now. Might seem a bit unfair on Dimi, but if the opportunity arises this season to play the young guys at his expense, we should take it.
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ALthough i don't rate dimi on the same level a broich,  he was the obvious replacement,  not sure now who is coming through the pipeline to replace Thomas?

I'd say JA will need to pull of something big in the next transfer window or the squad risks slipping to a mid table team at best.

Currently for 17/18 we are looking short up from, at AM, in CB and no back up DM (pepper is not the answer).

 



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A back 7 of


                          Young

Hingert    North   DeVere     Brown

        Kristensen        McKay

Gives us a pretty good platform. Agree we need a couple of good backups there, and there would be a big hole if DeVere doesn't re-sign.
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Footballking55 - 25 Jan 2017 4:59 PM
A back 7 of


                          Young

Hingert    North   DeVere     Brown

        Kristensen        McKay

Gives us a pretty good platform. Agree we need a couple of good backups there, and there would be a big hole if DeVere doesn't re-sign.

By the start  of next season
North - 35
Kristensen - 34
Mckay - 34

Don't forget Holman is 33 in a few months time too. Brisbane have some quality youth too but you definitely will need good back ups in these positions, those ages are very risky in terms of potential long term injury. 
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