Hyundai A-League attendances: Season 2016/17


Hyundai A-League attendances: Season 2016/17

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Davo1985 - 5 Mar 2017 10:17 PM
WSF - 4 Mar 2017 10:10 PM

If a team got 100k in rd 1 and then 1k in 9 other games, their average would be basically 11k which would be higher than getting 10k in 10 games. But which one would u truly think is in the healthier state? A one off followed by sunday park support for the remaining 6 months or constant support 10 fold week in week out for 6 months? 


I was not the one who started this, just simply pointed out the facts for the troll. The only team that should get shit for their crowds is the Nix, the rest are fine. 
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paladisious - 4 Mar 2017 6:59 AM
Davo1985 - 4 Mar 2017 12:35 AM

Nice try, I was there. Rain wasn't that bad.

Huge game against the biggest club to clinch the plate, a bit of rain is no excuse.

Comparing a top of the table decider to a run out against the wooden spooners (which still got a 50% bigger crowd) barely requires a retort.

I think the low attendance had more to do with the prices. $40+ is way too much just to get into the ground. Who in their right mind is going to pay that to go sit in the rain, unless they already had committed to it weeks/months ago?

Arnold and the players are calling for people to come but the club is denying themselves the crowds they want because they have priced themselves out of the market. I don't even bother asking most of the people I used to drag to games anymore because I know they don't see the value for money.
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chillbilly - 5 Mar 2017 11:14 PM
paladisious - 4 Mar 2017 6:59 AM

I think the low attendance had more to do with the prices. $40+ is way too much just to get into the ground. Who in their right mind is going to pay that to go sit in the rain, unless they already had committed to it weeks/months ago?

Arnold and the players are calling for people to come but the club is denying themselves the crowds they want because they have priced themselves out of the market. I don't even bother asking most of the people I used to drag to games anymore because I know they don't see the value for money.

Yeah, prices are a real problem.

I imagine a lot is passed on by the SFS. How do NRL tickets there compare?
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Just looked at the crowds in today's paper. They had all except Nix's.

They were pretty small.

Cause for concern.
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paladisious - 6 Mar 2017 4:51 AM
chillbilly - 5 Mar 2017 11:14 PM

Yeah, prices are a real problem.

I imagine a lot is passed on by the SFS. How do NRL tickets there compare?

I had a quick look at NRL, Super Rugby and AFL

- In the NRL all seem to be around $5-15 cheaper but don't offer as large an area for general admission. The general admission bay I sit in is a second tiered reserved bay for the Roosters and costs $5 more than Sydney FC general admission
- GWS are cheaper, Swans are about the same price
- The Waratahs are similar priced to the Roosters

From the prices I saw of the teams that play at the SFS, the NRL and Super Rugby offer more reasonable prices to get into the stadium but the a-league can potentially give you a better price for a better seat.

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By rights, in modern sport, gate takings should represent a tiny fraction of total revenue, which is now dominated by broadcasting rights and sponsorship revenue.

Get more people to a game with cheaper prices, looks good on TV, you increase the number of people associated with your club, and that drives sponsorship revenue.



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WSF - 5 Mar 2017 10:35 PM
Davo1985 - 5 Mar 2017 10:17 PM

I was not the one who started this, just simply pointed out the facts for the troll. The only team that should get shit for their crowds is the Nix, the rest are fine. 

Oh absolutely they are fine. Personally they make me hard but that's something I am looking into

13k for Sydney - wet
9k for WSW - the ground is too round
6k for CCM - yeah they're not going too well
7k for Newcastle - haven't made the finals in a while

6k for Wellington - this is the last straw. Wellington out!!

Then what?




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I think 6 - 7k is fine for smaller clubs, particularly if they are playing in appropriate stadium like CCM's.  Ideally we want clubs like the Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane clubs getting more like 30-40 000 but this would require world class teams and that isn't going to happen while they are pegged to the smaller teams.

It really is a bit of a conundrum at the moment.

Beaten by Eldar

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Eldar - 6 Mar 2017 1:55 PM
I think 6 - 7k is fine for smaller clubs, particularly if they are playing in appropriate stadium like CCM's.  Ideally we want clubs like the Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane clubs getting more like 30-40 000 but this would require world class teams and that isn't going to happen while they are pegged to the smaller teams.

It really is a bit of a conundrum at the moment.

Not to mention that the two new clubs who enter the comp in 2018-19 are likely to have that sort of average, so it's pointless worrying too much about it.
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bohemia - 5 Mar 2017 8:13 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 5 Mar 2017 8:07 PM

I thought what was reflected in the NRL crowds is that it is in fact rugby league

A league crowds are a reflection of?
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Good to see mister football has hijacked this thread too. 

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pippinu - 6 Mar 2017 11:12 AM
 By rights, in modern sport, gate takings should represent a tiny fraction of total revenue, which is now dominated by broadcasting rights and sponsorship revenue.

Get more people to a game with cheaper prices, looks good on TV, you increase the number of people associated with your club, and that drives sponsorship revenue.



I agree with this.

I understand the notion of not wanting to dilute the value of your product, however there are more things the club can do to really drive home more support on certain game days. Offering a 20% discount and free sausage roll isn't the sort of enticing deal to get you to go and watch the wellington phoenix...



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pippinu - 6 Mar 2017 11:12 AM
By rights, in modern sport, gate takings should represent a tiny fraction of total revenue, which is now dominated by broadcasting rights and sponsorship revenue.

Get more people to a game with cheaper prices, looks good on TV, you increase the number of people associated with your club, and that drives sponsorship revenue.



If the FFA doesn't pass on the full value of that broadcasting revenue however, they have to keep prices high in order to keep themselves afloat. 

The disappointing thing for me is that the prices will stay the same regardless of much more revenue the clubs receive from the FFA. Would be great if the clubs dropped the prices right down once they got a better slice of the broadcast revenue and people responded by heading to games in greater numbers. 
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Reedy - 7 Mar 2017 3:55 PM
pippinu - 6 Mar 2017 11:12 AM

If the FFA doesn't pass on the full value of that broadcasting revenue however, they have to keep prices high in order to keep themselves afloat. 

The disappointing thing for me is that the prices will stay the same regardless of much more revenue the clubs receive from the FFA. Would be great if the clubs dropped the prices right down once they got a better slice of the broadcast revenue and people responded by heading to games in greater numbers. 

Good points, and precisely why the clubs need more control over their revenues (or in this case, empowered to not collect certain revenues if there are other spin-off benefits).
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chillbilly - 6 Mar 2017 11:04 AM
paladisious - 6 Mar 2017 4:51 AM

I had a quick look at NRL, Super Rugby and AFL

- In the NRL all seem to be around $5-15 cheaper but don't offer as large an area for general admission. The general admission bay I sit in is a second tiered reserved bay for the Roosters and costs $5 more than Sydney FC general admission
- GWS are cheaper, Swans are about the same price
- The Waratahs are similar priced to the Roosters

From the prices I saw of the teams that play at the SFS, the NRL and Super Rugby offer more reasonable prices to get into the stadium but the a-league can potentially give you a better price for a better seat.

$34 was the cheapest adult ticket last night.
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So the QLD derby attracted 47k fans at Suncorp and again it went to extra time. How many derbies in the A-League turn out to be overhyped?. So freakn many and now with this joke of a sydney fc crowd at Allianz there goes any hope of a 3rd sydney team if the ladder leaders cant get a decent crowd unless its a derby than how will gong or shire do it? or many people stayed home tonight to watch the NRL QLD derby?.
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Another classic tonight. We snoozed and couldn't get tickets two weeks ago so it was a sell out.
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"Another low crowd of just over 11,000 was on hand ..."

Best argument yet for a Southern Sydney team - they're not turning out for the smurfs
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11k against another NSW team on a Friday night, extremely close to winning the Premier's Plate.

It's easy enough to blame Sydney FC fans on this but unfortunately it's mostly a reflection on the league itself at the moment.

Be interesting to see the MV crowd v Perth, genuinely hope it's a good one.

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Etihad Octopus - 11 Mar 2017 12:33 AM
11k against another NSW team on a Friday night, extremely close to winning the Premier's Plate. It's easy enough to blame Sydney FC fans on this but unfortunately it's mostly a reflection on the league itself at the moment. Be interesting to see the MV crowd v Perth, genuinely hope it's a good one.

Be surprised to see more than 20k tbh
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did some stats in another thread before i realised this was here...

looking at what percentage of people turn up compared to memberships.

this is up to the game last night.  numbers pulled from the wiki.

------------attendance---membership--------%-------------#games on FTA
victafl......23588........26138...............90.24%........4
wsw........19460........19696...............98.80%........5
sfc..........16087........12319..............130.58%.......7
roar.........14861.........7050................210.79% .....8
city.........10866........13023...............83.43%.........8
perth........10570........8515...............124.13%........3
adelaide...10160.......10088...............100.71..........7
jets...........8583.........8678................98.91%........3
ccm..........7512.........6258...............120.04%........1
nux...........6293.........4791...............131.35%.......lol





 




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Those Brisbane numbers are insane.  Clearly, the ownership problems of the last few years has stopped a lot of fans from committing to a membership, but are still showing up every week.
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MV V PG: 16,814. 

Pretty much just practice games for the finals now, in our defense. Also it's the last night of the Moomba festival, we can hear the fireworks over the Yarra inside AAMI.
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paladisious - 11 Mar 2017 9:38 PM
MV V PG: 16,814. 

Pretty much just practice games for the finals now, in our defense. Also it's the last night of the Moomba festival, we can hear the fireworks over the Yarra inside AAMI.

Nothing wrong with just under 17k, good crowd.



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pippinu - 11 Mar 2017 8:35 PM
Those Brisbane numbers are insane.  Clearly, the ownership problems of the last few years has stopped a lot of fans from committing to a membership, but are still showing up every week.

Surprised we even got 7k members, thought it would be much less. 



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Seriously, that's the crowd Sydney should have got last night.
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paladisious - 11 Mar 2017 9:38 PM
MV V PG: 16,814. 

Pretty much just practice games for the finals now, in our defense. Also it's the last night of the Moomba festival, we can hear the fireworks over the Yarra inside AAMI.

Is that where 10k of ur members were at? 
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chahrour123 - 10 Mar 2017 10:23 PM
So the QLD derby attracted 47k fans at Suncorp and again it went to extra time. How many derbies in the A-League turn out to be overhyped?. So freakn many and now with this joke of a sydney fc crowd at Allianz there goes any hope of a 3rd sydney team if the ladder leaders cant get a decent crowd unless its a derby than how will gong or shire do it? or many people stayed home tonight to watch the NRL QLD derby?.

So what its just 6 tackles kick and repeat for 80 mins. Doesnt make it anymore exciting just because it goes to "extra time". 
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Davo1985 - 11 Mar 2017 9:53 PM
paladisious - 11 Mar 2017 9:38 PM

Is that where 10k of ur members were at? 

Likely. About 1.2 million people went last year, apparently.

That and the plate race being over constitute a better excuse than a bit of rain lol. :)


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inala brah - 11 Mar 2017 7:54 PM
did some stats in another thread before i realised this was here...

looking at what percentage of people turn up compared to memberships.

this is up to the game last night.  numbers pulled from the wiki.

------------attendance---membership--------%-------------#games on FTA
victafl......23588........26138...............90.24%........4
wsw........19460........19696...............98.80%........5
sfc..........16087........12319..............130.58%.......7
roar.........14861.........7050................210.79% .....8
city.........10866........13023...............83.43%.........8
perth........10570........8515...............124.13%........3
adelaide...10160.......10088...............100.71..........7
jets...........8583.........8678................98.91%........3
ccm..........7512.........6258...............120.04%........1
nux...........6293.........4791...............131.35%.......lol




As i have repeatedly said on here, people will not buy memberships when clubs have such big grounds. You want a ticket for any game in Australia and New Zealand you will get it as easy as that. Maybe sometimes at AAMI and i stress sometimes only. People will pick and choose when they go knowing they will get in.

The main reason i and many others buy membership is to support our clubs , but it is also a much cheaper option over the season. $200 for 14 home games and free public transport is fantastic value in anyone's language.
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