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+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. They are both strong - which is why I hope that a second division is created. One of them will miss out.
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+xThe name is definitely a challenge. Can't call it Dandenong, Casey or Monash as it would only represent one council. South East Melbourne sounds like shit. Maybe something like 'Eastern United FC'. Even that doesn't sound too good but it's better than the others. Casey & Dandenong i think its fine.... kinda like the football team in England Dagenham and Redbridge. It would definitely be unique and no one would fill unloved
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Does skoko have any relatives there? Very important factor.
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+xThe name is definitely a challenge. Can't call it Dandenong, Casey or Monash as it would only represent one council. South East Melbourne sounds like shit. Maybe something like 'Eastern United FC'. Even that doesn't sound too good but it's better than the others. Sporting Eastern United FC ?
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+x+xThe name is definitely a challenge. Can't call it Dandenong, Casey or Monash as it would only represent one council. South East Melbourne sounds like shit. Maybe something like 'Eastern United FC'. Even that doesn't sound too good but it's better than the others. Casey & Dandenong i think its fine.... kinda like the football team in England Dagenham and Redbridge. It would definitely be unique and no one would fill unloved here's the logo
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+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? Is not effnik so the FFA are already on board
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If they go ahead with this it will be the biggest crime committed against the game since Soccer Australia.
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Tridents FC
If it passes NCIP
Each prick represents a different council
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+xTridents FC If it passes NCIPEach prick represents a different council Needs to be quadrants to also represent Josip Skoko who is from the area
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+x+xTridents FC If it passes NCIPEach prick represents a different council Needs to be quadrants to also represent Josip Skoko who is from the area Diamonds?
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You can go the the other way and just rip someone off
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I've suggested in the past utilising DC as abbreviated for Dandenong Casey. I don't mind even something unique like DC & Districts FC.
While South Melbourne have a viable bid that's ready to go. I think South East Melb has the better upside to grow the game, appease FoxSport and Melb city and get a major leg up on the afl in the region.
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+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go.
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+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. Good. People who suggested this was the case were called dreamers in the past. (One has to be the Aston Villa owner though)
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+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. Like wow ... There is a reason for all this BTW Football in Australia is about to experience a major bump IMO. Trend lines and various business models are all indicating this. I been saying this for about the last four months in three years we will look back at today and smile. We still have a lot of very serious issues to get through, governance being the primary one. IMO within six months we will have a massive peace pipe type event, all major stakeholders will set a path forward to follow. My biggest fear is Steven Lowy hangs around too long ... he needs to go .. I can live with Gallop he is a task oriented person that carries out what his board tell him to do... he also needs to go but its not critical whereas I think Lowy is IMO..
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I really hope this bid gets up but it has a long way to go.
This is where actual criteria is needed rather than just the FFAs feeling.
A stadium is also a long way off. Government funding will be hard to get for a stadium outside of the city center. Ask the AFL about Waverly. That's means any funding will almost have to be private and the councils. How will the two other councils feel about funding a stadium for the third.
Would there be a way for this bid to get a team into the NPL. Even if they start by getting a bunch of talented 16 year old from the 6 clubs, if their still involved, and when they make it to senior aged players maybe they can form the backbone of a very young list in the NPL 2 or something. But then how will clubs feel about giving away talented youngsters, where will they play? Etc
I hope something happebs but they have a very uphill battle.
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What my concern is that Expansion by and in itself will not solve the problems of Football. The theory of creating new entities in and by itself for expansion is not a solution and is cost heavy. We do need a second division, the reason for reluctance is the Australian Sporting Landscape has worked on EQUALISATION by REGULATION for so long that they think having low cost smaller clubs won't work. Its just too hard for guys like Gallop to comprehend.
These issues also affect Player Development as evidenced over the last 15 years. And as stated by our National Coach.
What ever happens Expansion, a Second Division and or both the KEY motivation should be the marriage of Status (A-League and Second Division) with Facilities.
Bringing in South Melbourne with a position further secures its facility for Football. The entrance of a Dandenong side by all indications will be supported by facilities development solely for Football this is a key proposition. As with bids from Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne/Victoria, Tasmania, Canberra, Sydney/NSW and Brisbane/Queensland ALL bids should have at their core the development or acquisition of Football Specific Stadia and Facilities.
Marrying Football Specific Facilities with Status in A-League, a second division and Promotion/Relegation is a no brainer in football development terms, player development terms, National footprint terms, infrastructure terms for capacity and engagement with the Football Playing Community
Otherwise the game and the competition without Football Specific Stadia/Facilities is doomed to failure.
BOOM!!!!!!
(By the way on a side note State Government and Councils are setting aside funds and facilities for AFLW Clubs that by the way don't even exist yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the battle ground.)
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+x(By the way on a side note State Government and Councils are setting aside funds and facilities for AFLW Clubs that by the way don't even exist yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the battle ground.) Maaayte, the experts on this board reckon the AFL women's will only be around for another three years, tops, don't worry about it!
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+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. I'd really love to know where you get this information from
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+x+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. I'd really love to know where you get this information from Where were they when FFA were struggling to sell NJ for $5m
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+x+x+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. I'd really love to know where you get this information from Where were they when FFA were struggling to sell NJ for $5m Hmmm, perhaps ask Midfielder to consult his "trend-lines and various business models"?...that would shed some light I'm sure
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. I'd really love to know where you get this information from Where were they when FFA were struggling to sell NJ for $5m Hmmm, perhaps ask Midfielder to consult his "trend-lines and various business models"?...that would shed some light I'm sure Better yet, get midfielder to point you to Google so you can search "a league" which will get a gazillion hits, which proves how popular we are, which proves how much money we're about to fall into, which proves expansion everywhere will be a success.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. I'd really love to know where you get this information from Where were they when FFA were struggling to sell NJ for $5m Hmmm, perhaps ask Midfielder to consult his "trend-lines and various business models"?...that would shed some light I'm sure Better yet, get midfielder to point you to Google so you can search "a league" which will get a gazillion hits, which proves how popular we are, which proves how much money we're about to fall into, which proves expansion everywhere will be a success. Nek minute A league of their own pops up
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South Melbourne v Dandenong city for a spot in the ffa cup, winner should also get expansion rights lol.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. I'd really love to know where you get this information from Where were they when FFA were struggling to sell NJ for $5m Hmmm, perhaps ask Midfielder to consult his "trend-lines and various business models"?...that would shed some light I'm sure Mister Football, if nothing else your constant posting under many names, shows that whoever employs you are fearful. Enjoy your game in China. Who's wearing will get support of the Chinese, but they will care little for the game.
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+x+x(By the way on a side note State Government and Councils are setting aside funds and facilities for AFLW Clubs that by the way don't even exist yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the battle ground.) Maaayte, the experts on this board reckon the AFL women's will only be around for another three years, tops, don't worry about it! It will be huge in the southern states, there is no AFL for 5 months a year!!! This will fill the gap.
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+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. would love this to be true but, meh. its all piss and wind until something of substance surfaces.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x^^^^^ From what I have read arguably the strongest of all the bidders .... then there is South Melbourne another very strong bidder ... difficult call on who is the best out of the two ... as I said from afar the Casey bid seems just so strong... Based on...? AS I said from what I read, they have two major councils behind them and a number of big local clubs, a training ground and facility is proposed by one of the councils... its an area where Football is popular ... people are saying in many ways somewhat similar to Western Sydney. To me thats sounds very good but I am not from Melbourne and its difficult to determine if the South Melbourne bid is better ... both appear very strong .. Let me fill you in then SMFC is probably ahead of this bid as they are ready to go. Dandenong only lacking Capital and Stadium so they are further down the track. Now I will tell you this, something you won't read in the papers, there are four bids well ahead of all the ones you know of. Three are from serious Chinese investors where $20Mil is nothing to them and the fourth and let me be the first to say it in public RED BULL is on the table and ready to go. I'd really love to know where you get this information from Where were they when FFA were struggling to sell NJ for $5m Hmmm, perhaps ask Midfielder to consult his "trend-lines and various business models"?...that would shed some light I'm sure Mister Football, if nothing else your constant posting under many names, shows that whoever employs you are fearful. Enjoy your game in China. Who's wearing will get support of the Chinese, but they will care little for the game. Robbos Well spotted I think so too... impressive on your part..
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^^^^^ Arthur you are close to right, but a little more is needed.... A major bump is coming..
We need a 16 team competition ... from this the second division will develop quickly and from this so will in time P & R.
I also believe happy days are approaching, however the next six months will be very messy, ugly, maybe even depressing to many ...
For all FFA ills, which are many recently, and mostly but not entirely self inflicted within six months a peace pipe gathering of sorts will take place ... and with new governance procedures in place and various stakeholders having been involved in the design I believe will jump into the third phase since hal started... phase 1 set, phase 2 stabilise and make mainstream, phase 3 expansion and growth...
Have faith in the game and the many involved in it .
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My reading of all the tea leaves in China is......football is the winner.
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