The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


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I hate when people attempt to use the ANZACs to justify their own political position. No, they didn't fight for your freedom or any Australian values or some bullshit like that. Stop pretending otherwise. 
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Munrubenmuz - 27 Apr 2017 4:03 PM
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Because she represents everything these people are afraid of or hate.  She's a woman, she's outspoken, she's brown and worst of all she's, shock horror, a moslem 

George Christensen suggested she 'self deport' herself.  Basically to 'go back to where you came from'.



And she is also a moron who declared on Q&A only the other week that "Islam is the religion of feminism".

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localstar - 27 Apr 2017 8:40 PM
Munrubenmuz - 27 Apr 2017 4:03 PM

And she is also a moron who declared on Q&A only the other week that "Islam is the religion of feminism".

Oh for sure.  100% agree with you. 

I'm just laughing at their reaction after the 18C freedom of speech thing they've been banging on about for the last 6 months.


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Shes also consulted with hizbut tahrir iirc. i actually watched her sbs doco " the truth about racism" which ofcourse featured a racist white guy,to me the science just showed that humans can generalise and can relate to someone of their ethncity more than someone whos not, nothing about conscious thought on the subject but tbh i turned it off three quarters through :lol:. I kinda get the vibe from her thats theres more to these comments than just political points.

I havent seen all the comments from the right but that self deportation comment is oh em gee.

Perhaps not the only one who should get sacked.

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Scotch&Coke - 27 Apr 2017 4:05 PM
Munrubenmuz - 27 Apr 2017 3:28 PM

Even though i hate the Junkee and everything it stands for, that is actually a half decent article.

I think the article demonstrates that the Left do not understand what free speech is. Free speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

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Munrubenmuz - 27 Apr 2017 9:35 PM
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Oh for sure.  100% agree with you. 

I'm just laughing at their reaction after the 18C freedom of speech thing they've been banging on about for the last 6 months.

Yep

Personally I cant stand her. Easily the least interesting panelist last time she was on Q&A but she talked over the top of everyone that dared to question anything she said. And her African-American dialectic inflections ("We aint owned by no man" with the accompanied finger wag) was one of the cringiest things ive seen on TV of late. What she said on ANZAC day was about as predictable as it was self-serving. 

However, I cant help but feel this insanely over the top reaction reveals a racist undercurrent in our society. What Scott McIntire said a few years back was FAR more controversial that anything Yasmin said. The response to that pales in significance.

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Scotch&Coke - 27 Apr 2017 4:05 PM
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Even though i hate the Junkee and everything it stands for, that is actually a half decent article.

I don't think that particular tweet was racist, I just think she's a bit of a spastic for turning the day into another self promotion piece so I very much agree with the article. She knew what she was doing and what the reaction would be. I guess she was successful and knew she'd create this media shitstorm. The same thing happened the last time an ABC journo slagged off ANZAC day.

Anyone who think's it's racist is retarded. There's nothing race related about her tweet.  

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The fallout of the largest bugging operation in NSW history is set to go public, with a letter by Tony Abbott about to be centre stage.

The letter will be part of the evidence tendered by veteran journalist Steve Barrett as he prepares to sue the State of NSW for the damage that the operation has done to his professional life.

The letter is interesting in more ways than one — particularly in light of the revelation last week of the illegal accessing by the Australian Federal Police of an as-yet-unidentified journalist’s phone records.

In the letter, Mr Abbott said he was “shocked” that any Australian police force could “get away with” tapping a journalist’s phone.

He urged Barrett to “turn up the journalistic heat.”

Abbott told Barrett that he handed the case to the then Attorney General, Philip Ruddock, to check whether it was “kosher” from a Federal point of view, but Barrett has to this day never heard anything from that.

Thirteen year later, he is still fighting this battle.

It was July 18, 2004, and Mr Abbott was a member of John Howard’s cabinet.

The letter was to one of his constituents in his Sydney electorate, Warringah — Steve Barrett, then with the Nine Network’s Sixty Minutes.

While the journalist who was the target of the AFP’s recent illegal activity appears to have had their confidentiality breached once, Barrett had his breached repeatedly — as many as 52 warrants were issued against him.

It now appears that many of those warrants — if not all — were issued illegally.

At the time, Barrett was one of Australia’s leading investigative journalists, relying on being able to guarantee confidentiality for those wanting to give him information.

His ability to do his job was seriously damaged after these warrants were issued as part of a covert police operation driven by the internal affairs unit of the NSW Police, which included Andrew Scipione and Catherine Burn.

The unit also placed phone intercepts on Nick Kaldas, who would go on to become Burn’s rival.

Scipione would go on to become the NSW Police Commissioner and Burn the Deputy Commissioner.

Neither Burn nor Kaldas would succeed Scipione, both damaged by the consequences of this bugging operation.

All of this is set to go public with both Steve Barrett and Nick Kaldas suing — separately — for damages.

Both cases are expected in court in coming months.

Two things about this case astound me.

Firstly, that the new Premier of NSW, Gladys Berejiklian, has not moved to resolve this issue before it all goes public.

And secondly, why there has not been more outrage from journalists that the NSW Police could target a journalist with as many as 52 warrants.

Who else did they — or are they currently — targeting?

Journalism relies on sources being able to trust that if they are aware of illegal activity — even in their own organisation, trade union or company — that they can contact a journalist and have confidence that they will not end up losing their job for being a “whistleblower.”

What the NSW Police did to Barrett and what the AFP did recently to another journalist make people nervous about giving us information.

This increases the chances that improper or illegal activity can continue without any public scrutiny.

And there’s an interesting political footnote to Tony Abbott’s 2004 letter.

Having been “shocked” that any Australian police force could do what they did to Barrett, what did Tony Abbott — a former journalist — do to protect journalists when he had the chance as Prime Minister?

He pushed for greater powers for the police to use metadata laws, including against journalists.

At the time, Mr Abbott told journalists not to worry about police accessing their metadata.

“Well in the days when I was a journalist there were no metadata protections for journalists,” he said.

What Mr Abbott did not go on to say was that in the days he was a journalist at The Bulletin magazine there were no mobile phones and no internet.

The world has changed — it is now much easier for police to track down who someone talks to.

While this is obviously a great resource for police and intelligence services when trying to monitor potential terrorists and organised crime figures, if we believe that journalists have an important role to play in a democracy then these laws should not be used to intimidate journalists or — more importantly — potential sources of important information.

And regarding the AFP officer who has accessed the journalist’s records, who was his or her boss commander?

Did they know about it?

How many other journalists’ metadata has been accessed?

And will the AFP officer who has broken the law and accessed a journalist’s metadata be prosecuted?

Probably not — it was, said Andrew Colvin, the Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police, “human error.”

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Drug checks for welfare lol, what's next?

Drug checks when I want to get my tax refund?

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paulbagzFC - 10 May 2017 6:19 AM
Drug checks for welfare lol, what's next?

Drug checks when I want to get my tax refund?

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My tax $$$ should pay for essentials not cones brah :laugh:

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BETHFC - 11 May 2017 11:02 AM
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My tax $$$ should pay for essentials not cones brah :laugh:

Yeah but how much extra money will be spent on drug tests?

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Complaints to the TIO have skyrocketed- some people getting worse speeds on NBN than they did on ADSL
Billions of taxpayer dollars wasted by the Conservative Party purely to be 'brand different'
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paulbagzFC - 11 May 2017 11:18 AM
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Yeah but how much extra money will be spent on drug tests?

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Who cares, punish the plebeian class for sucking at life (Tony Abbott, 2017) :laugh: 

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BETHFC - 12 May 2017 10:25 AM
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Who cares, punish the plebeian class for sucking at life (Tony Abbott, 2017) :laugh: 

I say lets just give them a box of rations each week. That'll show'em whose boss.
And an annual culling when their numbers get too high. 

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paulbagzFC - 10 May 2017 6:19 AM
Drug checks for welfare lol, what's next?

Drug checks when I want to get my tax refund?

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Just your typical dog whistling. The fact this is past off as some kind of saving is farcical.

Not only is this going to cost a fortune to set up and run, it's pretty clear not a lot of thought has been put into actually helping these people who are addicts.

Watch crime go up someone addicted to ice isn't going to stop now that he/she isn't getting cash from centrelink.  

Guess the Coalition have to pretend to be doing something other than spending and racking up more debt. :rolleyes:
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Australians have denied Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison a political dividend from the dramatic shift in direction in the federal budget, with the government losing ground against Labor to trail by 47 to 53 per cent in the latest Newspoll.

Voters have moved to Labor and the Greens to give Bill Shorten a bigger lead in two-party terms compared to the last poll three weeks ago, which showed Labor was ahead by 52 to 48 per cent.

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LNP have been behind in every single poll since the election.
It would be over 50 consecutive polls by now.
I would have thought the LNP would want at least 6 months with a new leader so they have a chance in 2019. So they will give Turnbull until the next budget before booting him.
ScoMo or Bishop for PM.
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Polls are not to be trusted - see American election. I can guarantee you if an election was held tomorrow the LNP would win and probably pick up a few extra seats 

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Polls are not to be trusted - see American election. I can guarantee you if an election was held tomorrow the LNP would win and probably pick up a few extra seats 

Probably.

It's what happens when people feel afraid to come out as a conservative voter in case they have to listen to a detailed account of why they're stupid :laugh:

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marconi101 - 15 May 2017 11:39 AM
Polls are not to be trusted - see American election. I can guarantee you if an election was held tomorrow the LNP would win and probably pick up a few extra seats 

America is voluntary voting, so a poor reference.
Also, American polls were accurate with the total vote, just not electorates.
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Polls are not to be trusted - see American election. I can guarantee you if an election was held tomorrow the LNP would win and probably pick up a few extra seats 

Doubt it, its an never ending cycling of one side getting in then the next getting in because every Prime Minister is shit at their job.
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QandA dishing up the goods again.

I wonder how many of the Uni students asking questions about having to pay for things they want in life have $4 coffees every day and go on trips to Bali. No wonder some of them can't afford a bloody house.

Stuff like last nights episode does nothing to draw away from a well established stereotype that people my age and younger are self entitled pricks who want free university, a house with no wage sacrifice, free medical care, a job with no qualifications as well as world class infrastructure and a stable economy with absolutely no sacrifice.

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I actually dug up my first job contract out of Uni the other day, 36k back in 2009 rofl.

My then girlfriend and I were still able to rent while she was at Uni finishing her engineering degree and was on Austudy or whatever it was and we managed to get by well enough.

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