Alonso, Iniesta... 

Not to mention Messi and Maradona for Argentina.

It's not what you've got it's what you do with it.

Nope. You need a target man (or two) who know how to run onto their delivery. Duke is not fit for purpose but Yengi might be. Mo Toure would be. Even McGree as a false nine would be.

It's a shame about Jason Cummings - he'd run riot feeding off Nizz and Arzani but... he took the short term money.

Only way to find out is to pick them.Nisbet particularly is immensely strong and not easily shifted off the ball and Arzani is able to change direction with his quick feet so they should be able to stand up to Lebanon's defenders.Both of them are streets ahead of Oar in technique and football nous.

Maybe Jordi Alba was a little on the petite side that day but Ramos is 6 foot and Albiol 6 foot 3 inches ... not exactly short mate.

As impressive as that sounds whether the crosses come in low, high or through the channels you still have to reach the same target man to reach the back of the net... 

The Spanish have had some of the tiniest players in history and it never hurt them.

Oar just wasn't that good a player - certainly not at World Cup level.

I remember being in the stands at the WC in Brazil watching Australia v Spain in Curitiba. Oar got an absolute physical mauling from the Spanish defenders. I remember thinking geez you need to be good to compete at that size vs the very best. Probably not such a big deal vs Lebanon. I like Arzani a lot and Nisbet too but worry how they'd go when the opponent has world class quality.

Who said anything about whipping in crosses?

Arzani is #1 in the A League for beating a man and Nizzy is #1 for winning the ball, holding it in tight spaces and slipping passes through the channels. We'd be playing on the ground so if they've got big blokes at the back... all the better.

Is Nisbet strong over the ball with a hard press? 

They'd have to keep it on the deck.

Dont know mate the Lebanese have some pretty big lads in the back..... whipping balls in from speedy mosquito fleet wingers to ...... umm Duke or Yengi? wont work I reckon.

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I think they could certainly play in the same team. Nisbet's an 8 or a 10 whereas Arzani is a winger. They would wreak havoc together against a low block - speed of thought and foot, vision, intelligence - off the scale.

Just need some bigger blokes around them but a front five of Robertson, Nisbet, Arzani, Yengi, McGree would do some damage. Especially when you have the likes of Irankunda, Silvera, Goodwin, Irvine to throw in to help.

Does Arnie have the cojones to pick them both?

I hope Nisbet and Arzani are selected too. We need players like this.

Still haven't seen Patrick Yazbek play. Not sure what he brings to the table?

We could also do with the likes of a Josh Kennedy - a big target man as central striker, who is a decent finisher to punish defences from quality attacking interplay.

I'm impressed with Nisbet.

Was watching the CCM/WSW game last night to appraise Nisbet and Farrell, plus many of the young tyros in WSW. I thought the pitch was terrible in Gosford, compared to the slick surface in Hobart for the two successive Western U games a few weeks back.

From what I've seen so far, Nisbet's lower centre of gravity and short stature enable him to have  be very nimble on his feet. He also has good close ball control, fast feet and quick handling speed - time taken to receive the ball and pass it on. This is  an effective asset in tight spaces - particularly when teams encounter  opponents deploying deep defensive blocks.

it did make me realize that the top teams can double mark 3 players in the final 3rd and if no other players are good at scoring then you are screwed

add to that Paartalu struggled to handle their press and we had trouble getting out of our half. Was humbling

I remember when Hannover had little Pinto, Schmiedebach and Lala in midfield and finished 4th in the league. It basically forced us to play on the floor opponents tried the air but balls were often stray and the defence was solid.

Nisbet is excellent and needs a call up. 

Yes, many nights at Suncorp... I remember. McKay butchered so many chances. You knew when he had a clear sight on goal he'd screw them pooch. Broich better but invisible in the ACL. That was a bucket of cold water, the point where they best team I had seen in Australian club football showed how lowly my beloved A League really was. It was one game at Suncorp - a 2-0 loss to Tokyo FC and we were outclassed. 
Off topic, I know... 

To be honest im more concerned about our chance creation than the finishing, our inability to create from deep block defences is a glaring weakness and we need players that could help us on that department.
Players like Nisbet, Arzani from the a-league would help.

We also got decent options from overseas that could help but alot depends on their game time and form too.

The more the better clear cut chances are created = Better chances to make up our poor finishing quality.

6 assists, 10 in all competitions but only 1 goal. Im skeptical arzani and him can play in the same team.

I remember mckay and broich in the same team, two amazing creators who were poor finishers. We got found out in the acl because they can double mark our finishers.  If one of them becomes a good finisher then they could really be useful

Having one or the other in the team would be really useful tho

He might be 1.60cms tall but Josh Nisbet might be the best midfield player in terms of Australian players in the whole country right now.

He's technically very strong but has excellent vision and capable of playing a decent killer ball which can cause any defence problems.

Surely a player worthy of a call up given some of our problems in midfield. 

If he was a foot or two taller he would be in Europe right now, but I hope that door isnt closed on him regardless.

He sucks at both national team & club.  What is the problem with the comments?

Just saw Arzani's 40 odd minutes when he came on as as a sub for Vic against Western U.

Vic dominated. In this scenario, Azani was simply dynamite. He is a better defensive payer now, but it was when he had the ball at his feet he terrorised WU.

Even if we only get 45 mins out of him, we desperately need him for the Socceroos. Those stacked deep defensive  blocks from India and Syria, would have been given merry hell from a resurgent Arzani!

The guy needs so little space to be effective if he receives with his right foot/right side of the body with his body shape facing forwards. He so often beats the first defender with consummate ease, the  opponents have to commit 1-2 more defenders, to negate him. This creates other attacking free players.

The two great evasion moves of the last 30 years for the Socceroos have been Kewell's body swerve/shoulder feint to the left, and Arzani's shoulder feint to the right. It is performed with the outside of the foot. 

Plus Arzani frequently beats two players in quick succession with the flashy and effective La  Croqueta move/technique. This is a quick  left right or right left, with the inside of the feet at a 45 degree angle.

Arzani also changes pace - fast, slow, fast, slow, fast slow - with such good  balance with the ball stuck to his feet. He has sufficient strength he doesn't get pushed of the ball easily - like Boyle. Plus he is putting in really good aerial crosses and well- weighted killer passes that split defences. His vision is really good too.

It  is no secret I love flashy players, but Arnie needs him in the Socceroos ASAP. He would also really lift the team cutting through some Asian deep defensive blocks like a knife through butter.

Precisely what I had said

Note: I'm not intentionally forgetting anyone. Goodwin and Robertson are tops at each end of the age spectrum.

I think we want to see Bos playing at left back. We'd like to see better skilled players on the ball. There are annoying combination and position questions (McGree wing or 10?) I'd like to see something that includes a lot of this while not removing what Arnold wants to do. He clearly wants to hold the ball a lot and overwhelmingly hold out against every opponent in the fitness stakes. Trying something like: 

                         Ryan
      Strain  Souttar  Circati  Bos
                     O'Neill 
                 Nisbet  Kalik
            McGree   Hrustic
                      Yengi

 Bos and Strain can overlap while McGree and Hrustic drift central. Both are confident on the 10. Allowing them to drift and move as they desire. Both can shoot. Hrustic deadballs are good and he is too exposed as a 6. Nisbet and Kalik are able to cover a lot of ground. Nieuwenhof is another who would be fine next to Nisbet. The thing is, these players have a superior football brain and technical ability to Irvine and Baccus. This style won't really use the emerging wingers' speed but I'd like to think prioritising technical ability, which they have more over Leckie, Borrello and Boyle, will allow them to create chances and speed can be burned when space presents itself.

Some pundits have recently mentioned Devlin is another missing quantity. While unfit currently, I think his Ecuador game was poor in a game we lost but he shouldn't be discounted. His engine and he can have his day in the passing stakes, would fit nicely here to cover an advanced Strain and Bos. We'll sadly never see it but I also think Thurgate and Hollman would give the squad a big shake up.

No clubs are playing during FIFA windows.

As I'm watching Arzani play more games in the AL , he has to be in the next Socceroo squads IMO.

He has so much skill on the ball, ball carrying and dribbling. There is creative flair too. If a game plan  isn't working, throw  Arzani on as a sub.  He can be a game changer. 

Arzani would have  given opposition teams merry hell in the Asian Cup.

This is where Hrustic has struggled most at DM. You can't afford mistakes in the position in the defensive half. Hrustic makes heaps of mistakes as he thinks too slowly.

He is most dangerous in attack where his skill on the ball is an asset. If he makes mistakes they aren't as costly. There is greater reward for his high quality technique on the ball.

Pace and thinking.

Would play Hrustic at DM or not at all, too slow for the attacking third.

Bit hard as he can only be in one squad at a time