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+xAFLX sounds ridiculous- I can't imagine it ever catching on, either with traditional AFL fans, or non-AFL fans. Might be better with women playing it. It's basically their answer to Futsal. Is futsal as popular as football on TV? No, definitely not in Australia that's for sure. Is it as popular to play? Yes, definitely. If the AFL play their cards right they can make it popular, at a recreational level, especially during summer. Would it work overseas? Not a chance in hell. Never heard much about their China experiment after it happened.
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+x+xAFLX sounds ridiculous- I can't imagine it ever catching on, either with traditional AFL fans, or non-AFL fans. Might be better with women playing it. It's basically their answer to Futsal. Is futsal as popular as football on TV? No, definitely not in Australia that's for sure. Is it as popular to play? Yes, definitely. If the AFL play their cards right they can make it popular, at a recreational level, especially during summer. Would it work overseas? Not a chance in hell. Never heard much about their China experiment after it happened. On that, I would love every club to have futsal and egaming departments.
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Would love for our code to include futsal as part of our development to have our sport to be year round or at least some of 5v5 aside, a shame the FFA doesn't to burn of that opportunity.
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+xWould love for our code to include futsal as part of our development to have our sport to be year round or at least some of 5v5 aside, a shame the FFA doesn't to burn of that opportunity. No. They did. They had plenty of opportunity and they gambled with it instead of playing it safe.
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+x+xClassic AFL article, spend the first half talking about how massive and dominant AFL is in Australia, spend the second half dreaming about how it is going to become an international game. God love 'em. With these sort of fluff stories the real story is in what they're trying to divert your attention away from. A 5 second browse of the newspaper yields a pretty good answer. Channel 7 making a billion dollars worth of writedowns today due to losses on sports broadcasting. Admits they overvalued sports rights and a correction is coming. AFL in the box seat for this one. I took this as an abysmal reading of watchers. Most TV watching now is online streaming and online networks, like Netflix. These are universal and not parochial, so sports that are not international are not shown as much and those TV programmes that rely on some untrained mob building a house, or telling some kid that they have a great singing voice just doesn't cut it against HBO or BBC dramas. But that may be more my dislike of commercial TV over-riding the realities that commercial TV has to address.
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In some areas it's very hard to find a decent pitch to play and train on. Now this stupid AFLX is going to start using our pitches, tearing them up and being given priority booking. Not happy Jan.
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Years ago I remember that a strong rumour was suggesting that Futsal was to be made an Olympic sport and the 11 a side game was leaving as they were continually getting larger crowds than most of the other sports.
Some of my friends are mad keen on ARF and they're avid believers in the outrageous mis-truths that the AFL come out with. I never argue with them as they enjoy watching that messy game and really there is no contest, crowd or money wise between it & football.
I must admit, though, my smugness as banners in the main streets proudly announced Hindmarsh was hosting Football during the 2000 Olympics.
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You could look at it another way. Every football club should now be readying their applications for government funding by reclassifying rectangular football fields and stadia as 'multi sports' facilities, also suitable for Aflx.
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+xYou could look at it another way. Every football club should now be readying their applications for government funding by reclassifying rectangular football fields and stadia as 'multi sports' facilities, also suitable for Aflx. Yep, I think Melbourne getting a new bigger rectangle stadium could depend on AFLXs success. It would be much easier to propose with MV and AFLX on board.
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AFL has grounds for concern in SydneyGillon McLachlan has vowed to find football grounds in Sydney for junior players being turned away by local clubs due to a critical shortage of facilities. Pointing to the scarcity and inadequacy of grounds as "almost the biggest challenge facing our game", the AFL chief vowed he would not "accept turning kids away" after holding talks in the harbour city on the eve of the finals with the president of Sydney's biggest junior club.  Lance Franklin has had a huge impact on Australian rules in Sydney. Photo: AAPMcLachlan called a meeting with Eastern Sydney Bulldogs president Iain Dunstan after launching the finals on Wednesday in the harbour city. "The situation, as he explained it, was quite dramatic," said McLachlan. Dunstan, who turned away 70 juniors before this season and said that number would grow into the hundreds come 2018 registrations, pointed to the success of the two Sydney AFL clubs, the enormous impact of Lance Franklin, the influx of junior girls and the league's growing impact in Sydney schools as creating a supply-and-demand crisis. Of his meeting with the AFL boss, Dunstan said: "I think he was genuinely shocked. My view is the AFL has to put in some serious money to fix it and the current growth is only going to exacerbate. "I understand the girls' success caught them on the hop but right now it's like running a business and spending all your money on advertising and then having no product to sell. "I appreciated the time he (McLachlan) gave me and for listening, but I've had to resort to civil disobedience because I just think the AFL is spending the money in the wrong places." Dunstan's club East Sydney was formed in 1880 and boasts 685 junior players, including 100 female players. Forced to share their 139-metre ground at Paddington's Victor Trumper Park with rival club the UTS Bats, Dunstan said his club faced massive expenses renting facilities at the University of NSW 15 kilometres away. For the second successive season both the AFL's Sydney-based clubs are challenging in September and Dunstan said AFL NSW should have pushed harder to follow up negotiations with Randwick racecourse to establish an Australian rules playing field in the middle of the track - first proposed last season. "We"re not getting our message across," said Dunstan, "and we've got two successful AFL clubs, Buddy Franklin is a superstar here and kids are now playing at school on Saturday and wanting to play club footy on Sunday. "It's causing friction between the boys and the girls because we can't send girls in their first season 15 kilometres away to play and the boys think we're favouring them. I can't walk down the street without disappointed parents asking why their kid is being turned away. Where am I going to fit them in?" McLachlan conceded that while football clubs across Australia were being stretched by a shortage of grounds, clubs in Sydney's eastern suburbs were "bursting at the seams". "The facilities challenge for us is almost the biggest challenge facing our game," added McLachlan. "We'll play whatever role we can in turning it around and whatever the solutions are, I'm not going to accept turning kids away." The AFL boss said the competition was working with Sydney's local councils and schools and confirmed the code was exploring establishing a football ground in the middle of Randwick's racecourse. McLachlan added that the NSW minister for Sport Stuart Ayres had been sympathetic to the dearth of playing fields restricting the code in Sydney. Easter Sydney was the junior club of Sydney's Dane Rampe, Hawthorn's Will Langford along with Paul Roos' sons Dylan and Tyler. AFL commissioner Jason Ball coaches the under-15 girls team.
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+xAFL has grounds for concern in SydneyGillon McLachlan has vowed to find football grounds in Sydney for junior players being turned away by local clubs due to a critical shortage of facilities. Pointing to the scarcity and inadequacy of grounds as "almost the biggest challenge facing our game", the AFL chief vowed he would not "accept turning kids away" after holding talks in the harbour city on the eve of the finals with the president of Sydney's biggest junior club. Lance Franklin has had a huge impact on Australian rules in Sydney. Photo: AAPMcLachlan called a meeting with Eastern Sydney Bulldogs president Iain Dunstan after launching the finals on Wednesday in the harbour city. "The situation, as he explained it, was quite dramatic," said McLachlan. Dunstan, who turned away 70 juniors before this season and said that number would grow into the hundreds come 2018 registrations, pointed to the success of the two Sydney AFL clubs, the enormous impact of Lance Franklin, the influx of junior girls and the league's growing impact in Sydney schools as creating a supply-and-demand crisis. Of his meeting with the AFL boss, Dunstan said: "I think he was genuinely shocked. My view is the AFL has to put in some serious money to fix it and the current growth is only going to exacerbate. "I understand the girls' success caught them on the hop but right now it's like running a business and spending all your money on advertising and then having no product to sell. "I appreciated the time he (McLachlan) gave me and for listening, but I've had to resort to civil disobedience because I just think the AFL is spending the money in the wrong places." Dunstan's club East Sydney was formed in 1880 and boasts 685 junior players, including 100 female players. Forced to share their 139-metre ground at Paddington's Victor Trumper Park with rival club the UTS Bats, Dunstan said his club faced massive expenses renting facilities at the University of NSW 15 kilometres away. For the second successive season both the AFL's Sydney-based clubs are challenging in September and Dunstan said AFL NSW should have pushed harder to follow up negotiations with Randwick racecourse to establish an Australian rules playing field in the middle of the track - first proposed last season. "We"re not getting our message across," said Dunstan, "and we've got two successful AFL clubs, Buddy Franklin is a superstar here and kids are now playing at school on Saturday and wanting to play club footy on Sunday. "It's causing friction between the boys and the girls because we can't send girls in their first season 15 kilometres away to play and the boys think we're favouring them. I can't walk down the street without disappointed parents asking why their kid is being turned away. Where am I going to fit them in?" McLachlan conceded that while football clubs across Australia were being stretched by a shortage of grounds, clubs in Sydney's eastern suburbs were "bursting at the seams". "The facilities challenge for us is almost the biggest challenge facing our game," added McLachlan. "We'll play whatever role we can in turning it around and whatever the solutions are, I'm not going to accept turning kids away." The AFL boss said the competition was working with Sydney's local councils and schools and confirmed the code was exploring establishing a football ground in the middle of Randwick's racecourse. McLachlan added that the NSW minister for Sport Stuart Ayres had been sympathetic to the dearth of playing fields restricting the code in Sydney. Easter Sydney was the junior club of Sydney's Dane Rampe, Hawthorn's Will Langford along with Paul Roos' sons Dylan and Tyler. AFL commissioner Jason Ball coaches the under-15 girls team.
AFL has grounds for concern in Sydney So reading between the lines, there's a junior aussie rules club in Sydney, then you have to drive 15km away to find another one. lol tragic stuff And of course they can't just rent from a cricket club because that doesn't let them control the property and kick other sports off it. Poor guys
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+x+xAFL has grounds for concern in SydneyGillon McLachlan has vowed to find football grounds in Sydney for junior players being turned away by local clubs due to a critical shortage of facilities. Pointing to the scarcity and inadequacy of grounds as "almost the biggest challenge facing our game", the AFL chief vowed he would not "accept turning kids away" after holding talks in the harbour city on the eve of the finals with the president of Sydney's biggest junior club. Lance Franklin has had a huge impact on Australian rules in Sydney. Photo: AAPMcLachlan called a meeting with Eastern Sydney Bulldogs president Iain Dunstan after launching the finals on Wednesday in the harbour city. "The situation, as he explained it, was quite dramatic," said McLachlan. Dunstan, who turned away 70 juniors before this season and said that number would grow into the hundreds come 2018 registrations, pointed to the success of the two Sydney AFL clubs, the enormous impact of Lance Franklin, the influx of junior girls and the league's growing impact in Sydney schools as creating a supply-and-demand crisis. Of his meeting with the AFL boss, Dunstan said: "I think he was genuinely shocked. My view is the AFL has to put in some serious money to fix it and the current growth is only going to exacerbate. "I understand the girls' success caught them on the hop but right now it's like running a business and spending all your money on advertising and then having no product to sell. "I appreciated the time he (McLachlan) gave me and for listening, but I've had to resort to civil disobedience because I just think the AFL is spending the money in the wrong places." Dunstan's club East Sydney was formed in 1880 and boasts 685 junior players, including 100 female players. Forced to share their 139-metre ground at Paddington's Victor Trumper Park with rival club the UTS Bats, Dunstan said his club faced massive expenses renting facilities at the University of NSW 15 kilometres away. For the second successive season both the AFL's Sydney-based clubs are challenging in September and Dunstan said AFL NSW should have pushed harder to follow up negotiations with Randwick racecourse to establish an Australian rules playing field in the middle of the track - first proposed last season. "We"re not getting our message across," said Dunstan, "and we've got two successful AFL clubs, Buddy Franklin is a superstar here and kids are now playing at school on Saturday and wanting to play club footy on Sunday. "It's causing friction between the boys and the girls because we can't send girls in their first season 15 kilometres away to play and the boys think we're favouring them. I can't walk down the street without disappointed parents asking why their kid is being turned away. Where am I going to fit them in?" McLachlan conceded that while football clubs across Australia were being stretched by a shortage of grounds, clubs in Sydney's eastern suburbs were "bursting at the seams". "The facilities challenge for us is almost the biggest challenge facing our game," added McLachlan. "We'll play whatever role we can in turning it around and whatever the solutions are, I'm not going to accept turning kids away." The AFL boss said the competition was working with Sydney's local councils and schools and confirmed the code was exploring establishing a football ground in the middle of Randwick's racecourse. McLachlan added that the NSW minister for Sport Stuart Ayres had been sympathetic to the dearth of playing fields restricting the code in Sydney. Easter Sydney was the junior club of Sydney's Dane Rampe, Hawthorn's Will Langford along with Paul Roos' sons Dylan and Tyler. AFL commissioner Jason Ball coaches the under-15 girls team.
AFL has grounds for concern in Sydney So reading between the lines, there's a junior aussie rules club in Sydney, then you have to drive 15km away to find another one. lol tragic stuff And of course they can't just rent from a cricket club because that doesn't let them control the property and kick other sports off it. Poor guys Its common in Sydney that cricket and football share the same Council ground with a rectangular pitch either side of the cricket pitch so those grounds aren't available for AFL. There is shortage of grounds for football especially in the inner suburbs and grounds are used Friday night and all day Saturday and Sunday so Johnny come lately AFL has great difficulty in finding spare space for one of their huge paddocks.
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The battle for Sporting Real Estate is in full swing.
And our leadership doesn't have a clue.
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All the article mentions is East Sydney - sounds like the rest of Sydney doesn't give enough of a shit to have a problem with facilities for Australian Rules.
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+x+xAFL has grounds for concern in SydneyGillon McLachlan has vowed to find football grounds in Sydney for junior players being turned away by local clubs due to a critical shortage of facilities. Pointing to the scarcity and inadequacy of grounds as "almost the biggest challenge facing our game", the AFL chief vowed he would not "accept turning kids away" after holding talks in the harbour city on the eve of the finals with the president of Sydney's biggest junior club. Lance Franklin has had a huge impact on Australian rules in Sydney. Photo: AAPMcLachlan called a meeting with Eastern Sydney Bulldogs president Iain Dunstan after launching the finals on Wednesday in the harbour city. "The situation, as he explained it, was quite dramatic," said McLachlan. Dunstan, who turned away 70 juniors before this season and said that number would grow into the hundreds come 2018 registrations, pointed to the success of the two Sydney AFL clubs, the enormous impact of Lance Franklin, the influx of junior girls and the league's growing impact in Sydney schools as creating a supply-and-demand crisis. Of his meeting with the AFL boss, Dunstan said: "I think he was genuinely shocked. My view is the AFL has to put in some serious money to fix it and the current growth is only going to exacerbate. "I understand the girls' success caught them on the hop but right now it's like running a business and spending all your money on advertising and then having no product to sell. "I appreciated the time he (McLachlan) gave me and for listening, but I've had to resort to civil disobedience because I just think the AFL is spending the money in the wrong places." Dunstan's club East Sydney was formed in 1880 and boasts 685 junior players, including 100 female players. Forced to share their 139-metre ground at Paddington's Victor Trumper Park with rival club the UTS Bats, Dunstan said his club faced massive expenses renting facilities at the University of NSW 15 kilometres away. For the second successive season both the AFL's Sydney-based clubs are challenging in September and Dunstan said AFL NSW should have pushed harder to follow up negotiations with Randwick racecourse to establish an Australian rules playing field in the middle of the track - first proposed last season. "We"re not getting our message across," said Dunstan, "and we've got two successful AFL clubs, Buddy Franklin is a superstar here and kids are now playing at school on Saturday and wanting to play club footy on Sunday. "It's causing friction between the boys and the girls because we can't send girls in their first season 15 kilometres away to play and the boys think we're favouring them. I can't walk down the street without disappointed parents asking why their kid is being turned away. Where am I going to fit them in?" McLachlan conceded that while football clubs across Australia were being stretched by a shortage of grounds, clubs in Sydney's eastern suburbs were "bursting at the seams". "The facilities challenge for us is almost the biggest challenge facing our game," added McLachlan. "We'll play whatever role we can in turning it around and whatever the solutions are, I'm not going to accept turning kids away." The AFL boss said the competition was working with Sydney's local councils and schools and confirmed the code was exploring establishing a football ground in the middle of Randwick's racecourse. McLachlan added that the NSW minister for Sport Stuart Ayres had been sympathetic to the dearth of playing fields restricting the code in Sydney. Easter Sydney was the junior club of Sydney's Dane Rampe, Hawthorn's Will Langford along with Paul Roos' sons Dylan and Tyler. AFL commissioner Jason Ball coaches the under-15 girls team.
AFL has grounds for concern in Sydney So reading between the lines, there's a junior aussie rules club in Sydney, then you have to drive 15km away to find another one. lol tragic stuff And of course they can't just rent from a cricket club because that doesn't let them control the property and kick other sports off it. Poor guys You realise that the article states their nearest Aussie rules club shares the same ground. They have to go 15km to get a ground that isn't already full.
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We just need a prince in Australia who bans eggball, buys all Football tickets and gives them away for free ;)
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This article suggests that the AFL should play soccer over the summer instead of the much pilloried AFLX: http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/09/09/soccer-is-the-alternative-to-aflxsoccer-an-alternative-to-aflx/
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They would be better to just set up a rebel unsanctioned football league with eg Vic SA and WA teams. Warning for roar quote / "The only trouble with soccer is that AFL fans often find it too slow and boring. The fans have to jump and sing to keep themselves entertained, as they say – or, as soccer fans would call it, ‘creating atmosphere’." This is a stereotype. From what I read AFL is becoming like rugby. Football is forever improving and becoming faster and faster. AFL will roll out AFLX and block MV from their stadium when they can. They will also schedule matches the same time as the Melbourne derbies. AFLX at Etihad will be come a staple every Saturday night over the summer (it may even bump cricket, im not sure if they play Saturday nights). They could play double headers or even triple. Back to the article though. Would AFL fans go and watch AFL players play soccerball?
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All those years of providing local councils in Sydney with inflated player numbers are biting the VFL on the arse. They were lies then, lies now.
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They are starting to realise their game
Is dumb and played on a cricket pitch due to
A bedding episode with cricket Victoria last century. Their
Game will die along with that agreement. Even cricket can turn their 5 day polo sessions into something the modern idiot can digest.
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The AFL should join the back of the queue if they are whinging about space in the inner city and eastern suburbs. They are not the only sport with shortages of available space in the inner city.
Our eastern suburbs cricket comp is restricted to four grades because we literally don't have enough parks to play on. All the grounds are full, morning and afternoon. Junior cricketers have to play on Sunday mornings because of the space restrictions.
There's also only one winter cricket comp due to ground shortages, and most of our grounds are being slowly taken by football (in fact we just lost one of our popular grounds due to the growth of football). I end up having to travel as far as Smithfield and Badgeries Creek for a game.
AFL couldn't cater to 70 kids? There are several thousand more who would play football, cricket and league if space opened up.
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There's a shortage of soccer pitches right across the country. Juniors wishing to start up have to look far and wide in some instances because their local club just can't fit them in. It's what the AFL wanted for sockah now they know what it feels like if what they say is true, which I doubt.
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+xThe AFL should join the back of the queue if they are whinging about space in the inner city and eastern suburbs. They are not the only sport with shortages of available space in the inner city. Our eastern suburbs cricket comp is restricted to four grades because we literally don't have enough parks to play on. All the grounds are full, morning and afternoon. Junior cricketers have to play on Sunday mornings because of the space restrictions. There's also only one winter cricket comp due to ground shortages, and most of our grounds are being slowly taken by football (in fact we just lost one of our popular grounds due to the growth of football). I end up having to travel as far as Smithfield and Badgeries Creek for a game. AFL couldn't cater to 70 kids? There are several thousand more who would play football, cricket and league if space opened up. I just looked up the figures for registered players in the Eastern Suburbs and it went up from 6,000 to 8,800 from 2014 to 2016 season. That is massive growth for our code. There are 928 clubs in NSW (2016) with 285k players and the average number of players per pitch across the state is 125. Just to keep up with population growth 28 new pitches are needed each year. With player numbers growing at more than double the rate of population growth the shortage of pitches will continue unfortunately. The study that these figures come from stated that if 1 extra pitch was available for each club in the state they could cater for another 121,000 registered players.
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Yep that doesn't surprise me at all. Contact sport is fading and football is growing.
Women's football and cricket in particular are exploding in popularity.
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Looking at Trumper Oval on google earth. https://www.google.cz/maps/place/Trumper+Oval/@-33.880387,151.2335168,180m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b12ade200b05cd7:0xe978d357468679e2!8m2!3d-33.880429!4d151.232905I reckon they could easily fit 2 football pitches on that site. Would need some trees removed. But if they nestled the pitch right up in to that corner of Hampden and Glenmore and had the wing running up against Glenmore Rd, then I think they could have 2 pitches side by side. Legit couldn't give a fuck where the foodeeeee bogans take their AFL club, try Gosford or something Also in a city expected to be 7 million in population by the time I die you just need to use the lad more efficiently. Would you have one aussie fools pitch for 36 players playing for 2.5 hours, or 2 football pitches for 44 players playing for 1.75 hours? Seems pretty damn simple to me. Aussie fools is too obese for urban environments. Maybe stick to those 10k towns where everyone is an unemployed meth addict like Arrarat or Sale
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AFL is much more in competition with Rugby League and Rugby. There are a lot of rednecky boys who want to act tough but are too soft to play either Rugby code and they mostly live in the Eastern Suburbs and North Shore. I legit got death stares and a shoulder charge from a 5 year old, although it could have been because I was laughing at how tight his shorts were.
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I'm watching an Under 14 game on a field with a cricket pitch in the middle. Lack of grounds is a disgrace. Also just had a parent from the other team tell me if we got a whole heap of AFL players to cross over to sokkah, we'd beat Brazil because of our superior athletes and we could have some 6 foot 10 forwards. That's an unsolicited comment from a guy whose kid is playing football. We still have a long way to go in Victoria
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+xI'm watching an Under 14 game on a field with a cricket pitch in the middle. Lack of grounds is a disgrace. Also just had a parent from the other team tell me if we got a whole heap of AFL players to cross over to sokkah, we'd beat Brazil because of our superior athletes and we could have some 6 foot 10 forwards. That's an unsolicited comment from a guy whose kid is playing football. We still have a long way to go in Victoria The upside for missing the world cup is we wouldn't have to put up with a month of their tomes of wisdom. It's bad enough in redneckville South Australia. Can't imagine what it would be like in Melbourne with 3.5x the number of bogans
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+xI'm watching an Under 14 game on a field with a cricket pitch in the middle. Lack of grounds is a disgrace. Also just had a parent from the other team tell me if we got a whole heap of AFL players to cross over to sokkah, we'd beat Brazil because of our superior athletes and we could have some 6 foot 10 forwards. That's an unsolicited comment from a guy whose kid is playing football. We still have a long way to go in Victoria Such a huge belief in Victoria. We do miss out on a lot of talent though. We could be much more competitive if it wasn't for those pesky AFLs.
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+x Also just had a parent from the other team tell me if we got a whole heap of AFL players to cross over to sokkah, we'd beat Brazil because of our superior athletes and we could have some 6 foot 10 forwards. Laughable comment. Taller is not better in Football. Tell that parent that he's a fool.
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