Had a gutful one week after a particular spiteful, horrible match I did a centre for. I actually thought about throwing it all in because you have to be there 30 mins before, 30 mins to get there from house, 2 hours for the game including signing and match report, 30 mins home.

So 3 and half hours for $50 to be abused by all and sundry so exactly what are you doing it for?  It's a pretty shitty way to spend your arvo.

The next week I marched out pretty fired up and called both teams together and said something along the lines of 'you'd know there's a fair shortage of referees around the place so I'm just letting know that I'm not here for the fame, fortune or glory, I'm here as my way of giving something back to football after playing for 40 years. So whinge and abuse me all you like and then when next week you don't have a ref there'll be no need to wonder why."

After the game I had a couple of players come up and say 'good speech'.

I reckon that all players should have to ref a couple of matches to understand the difficulties and complexities.

Then there'd be more respect I think.

If we are to keep VAR ,limit each team to two challenges a game.Other than that the VAR is never used.
The last thing I want is VAR used five or six times a game.Imagine a high scoring game and goals being disallowed and incidents resulting in penalties or sendoffs.
It should be left to the referee to make decisons as they have forever.In most games there are rarely more than a few contoversial decisions,so just give teams two chances to over rule.

This CANCER needs to DIE

Shaun Evans awards Sydney a penalty; Bobo stands over the ball for five minutes waiting to take it whilst VAR tries to make a decision; eventually the original decision is confirmed.

This is total fukin nonsense; the VAR needs to be scrapped immediately, it is ruining the game.

VAR takes too long and they still make the wrong decision. The referees are so incompetent they not only make massive errors in real time they make the same, if not more, massive mistakes when having time to view the incidents many times from various angles. I am not sure we can fairly judge VAR when those involved don't have a clue what they are doing.

Absolutely embarrassing. 

That 4 minutes was an absolute farce. Speechless honestly. 

So what happens in the reverse though? Do we keep play going for 5 minutes then run back to take the penalty? And yeah Perth missed a penalty and the first penalty of ours was very soft. Second one was fair enough and third was crystal clear. 

So how does the VAR fail to detect that when Bobo scores his penalty, a Sydney player is 3m inside the penalty box? Why is the kick not retaken? Or does the VAR only ensure that some rules are enforced but not others?
Come to think of it, the offending player actually ran between the ref and the ball, yet apparently went unnoticed.

It's just an excuse for 1 incompetent to use anothers opinion to deflect the blame.
I can't see its use at all as there are still wrong decisions being made, but to re-enforce its effectiveness "Plain as day" fouls as in ( Adelaide v WSW ) go unpunished, as if to say "We'd rather someone have their legs broken than say we're wrong"

I mean why does it take 5 minutes to make the same decision they'd have made at normal speed?
It's a total waste and should be shelved immediately.

I dunno. I mean it was impressive to see Arnie both coaching and being the VAR in the same match. I mean it was him that reviewed the decisions wasn't it? Or maybe it was a Sydney FC board member?

I would also point out that the  Var penalty decision even after 5 mins was incorrect,  the ball clearly strikes Mills left arm.only,  which is behind his back & against his back, so he doesn't have his left arm away from his body.
It's as clear as day, so it's an obvious error from the ref, as his position it looks like it hits Mills right arm, which is away from his body, so Var should of seen the vision and recinded the penalty. 

At the end of the day, it's just another human referee making a judgment call in a room , instead of on the pitch and like all humans, they make mistakes, so Var is useless it's never black and white, unlime goal line technology, which is, so it needs to be killed. Works 

they're not watching trying to figure out if it should be a penalty. everyone knows its not a penalty. they're trying to decide whether they can call it "an obvious error" lol. Like, well it hit his arm, so it can't be that obvious that it isn't a penalty. haha. its a farce. 

Another poor example was the penalty today in the Nix/Roar game - spent a minute reviewing actual contact, good luck finding the obvious error there but have a good look anyway why don’t you.

The laws of the game say that the position of the arm does not make it a penalty. I know there is all this talk about the arm being in a natural position or an unnatural position and this kind of bullshit. The laws of the game says,
Handling the ball
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.
The following must be considered:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence
• touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.)is an offence
• hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an offence

So it does not matter whether MIlls' arm was straight from the body or close to the body, his hand did not move towards the ball, the opposite, and it was an unexpected ball. So definitely not handball.

An opposite example was Hrustic getting sent of a second yellow due to handball. In that instance he was jumping to try and head a ball and put his arm up in the air. While in the strictest term it was not deliberate.it was an expected ball, and Hrustic put his arm in the path of the ball, so correctly called handball.

The WP / BR game was unwatchable with VAR

This is what it has come to. Referees erring on the side of caution and now every goal has to be reviewed

What a fucking anti climax:
. Player scores
. Teams walk to the middle
. Fans wait 1-2 minutes
. Goal / no goal decision announced

To call it a joke is an understatement

@ bluebird.

Totally agree. The VAR trial has proved it doesn’t eliminate controversy or even guarantee the right decision is made (because they’ll only reverse an “obvious error”) but in the process they are destroying the spontaneous nature of the game and at the most crucial of times - when a goal is scored. VAR has to go.

The Var reviewed Krishna's goal, he scored from 35 yards, what could they possibly reviewing,  whether Theo is short sighted or something. Again this lack of spontaneous joy for the fans really makes Var a danger to the entire sport. 

Ok so last night there is a penalty decision approved by the VAR, the player misses, and Zelic says "Justice prevails"

Zelic was clearly on some serious gear last night.  The guy is cooked.

I even thought Zelic’s Twitter account had been hacked recently, there’s been some truly bizarre postings.

I didn’t get the VAR review last night - it seemed there was no obvious error (in the foul) but did someone else get booked afterwards, and for what?

Bottom line though it was an awful penalty from Riera, should have done much better despite the delay.

I am getting really annoyed with the VAR, especially with the way it is being used and how the commentators on fox are asking for it to be used.
The referees and linesmen are being totally undermined with their decision making and now I honestly don't know why they are there.
Apparently because we now have VAR the linesmen are encouraged to keep their flags down and let the play continue, because we can always review it later. Do we really want to see the play review constantly. Last nights decision making on the VAR was ridiculous. No amount of tweeking will ever let me allow to like this system. IT IS SHIT. 

The director of the VAR for the Bundesliga has just been removed due to reports of bias and manipulation. Managers are complaining about the terrible communication from the federation.

It's frustrating here how the ref often goes and looks at the screen himself and rarely changes the call which is obviously saving face. 

German FA demotes VAR project manager after manipulation claims

Bundesliga fans demand end of video assistant referee testing

VAR, secret instructions and gagging orders: the Bundesliga's refereeing controversy

Totally agree 100%.

I would like to see it stay but severely curtailed in its use.

1.  Review acts of non-playing violence.  No more Rivaldos.  Catch sneaky punch in the gut tactics by keeper.  Not for use in contest for the ball situations.
2.  Check when a red card is issued that the correct player has been identified.  No more sending Broich off just because he was nearest at the time.
3.  That's about it but if somebody can think of a situation that isn't subjective, or the direct responsibility of a Ref in normal play then I'd look at it.

Definitely NO MORE:
Offside calls.
Hand balls
Simulation (looking for the faintest contact to justify a dive).

Leave that subjective stuff to the on field people and live with it.  A TV screen does not display definitive evidence in any of those situations.  There is parallax, FOV compression and missing frames, all of which deceive and make television review inferior to human sight and judgement.

Can anyone give one example of how it has improved the game? There is just as much controversy now regarding contentious decisions  as there was before, except now you have to wait 4 minutes before you can take the spot kick (like last night at MVvWSW).

Just dump it

The yellow was because the var said the ref had booked the wrong player, mistaken identity.  Have to watch it again because I didn't think he did. 

Anyway the whole thing was farcical. 

This topic is going to end up a hundred pages long. 

Obvious penalty not reviewed

Maccarone punches Asdrubal, VAR clears it.

Yeah... it's shocking

I'm a staunch Roar supporter and reckon we got away with both those. If the VAR isn't picking those things up what's the point of it?

The VARs are supposed to change obvious errors, they are not doing so, they have failed, the system should be eliminated.

On one of the games Andy Harper and Simon Hill were discussing how one of the players was offside, and it looked like the difference in the offside was a big toe. They kept discussing this for the next 5 minutes when the decision was so close I would have been happy for the decision to be ruled either way. In fact after looking at the replay he actually looked onside. Either decision would have been fine, play to the refs whistle.