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+x+xThis thread is s disgrace - full of ExNSL bittersSELF INTEREST There is no way in hell this BS league will take offIt’s 2017 and your exNSL club is never coming backGot it Am I an NSL bitter if I support a 2nd Div and pro/rel, but never went to a single NSL game? Robot just brokedown.
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+xThis thread is full of posters who are members/supporters/affiliated with NPL clubs. Of course they are for "The Sweatshop". Me, as a Victory member, I'd like to see a second division of fully professional clubs, and eventually pro/rel, but I'm extremely wary of the plastic mono-ethnic social clubs (pretending to be football clubs), given their history of holding the game back, their cash grab from juniors, their poor administration and also the current poorly put together AAFC proposal. I was going to say if the HAL clubs payed transfer fees, the cash grab for the NPL might not be as high? but then I remembered they all just play pass the parcel with the current players hence why the need for this Championship is so high. As a Tasmanian who am I too support outside of my NPL?
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+x+x+xThis thread is s disgrace - full of ExNSL bittersSELF INTEREST There is no way in hell this BS league will take offIt’s 2017 and your exNSL club is never coming backGot it Am I an NSL bitter if I support a 2nd Div and pro/rel, but never went to a single NSL game? Robot just brokedown. Overloaded switching between the three accounts.
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+x+x+x+xThis thread is s disgrace - full of ExNSL bittersSELF INTEREST There is no way in hell this BS league will take offIt’s 2017 and your exNSL club is never coming backGot it Am I an NSL bitter if I support a 2nd Div and pro/rel, but never went to a single NSL game? Robot just brokedown. Overloaded switching between the three accounts. Random CAPITALIZATION and use of bitters!!!! not a give away? Poor Pauly.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. To add to my previous post.. What you will also see happen is, for example, if Melbourne Knights are in the 'Championship' all of a sudden supporters of North Geelong and St.Albans(if they aren't in second division) grow an interest in MKFC and the 'Championship.' They become feeder/pathway clubs to MKFC so their youth have a chance at a higher level. It doesn't happen now because they are competing against each other for players and supporters. Yes their alliance is based on ethnic heritage but that is no different to Northern Tasmanians having an interest in a Hobart club playing in a second division, only its based on a geographic alliance not their heritage. BULLSHIT. The fans of St Albans and North Geelong will not give a fig about Melbourne Knights. They're all Cros, but different clubs, with their own committees and pyramids of power. They will not undermine their club to become feeders for another club. like asking an Alexander fan to go and watch Hellas. NOT HAPPENING. You have no idea do you. Socceroos Culina, Pondeljak, Horvat, Franjic & Spiranovic to name a few, started at feeders St Albans & North Geelong, before moving to Knights & then onwards. Best you stop ranting as you are embarrassing yourself. And took the St Albans and North Geelong fans with them, right? Best you stop posting, full stop. You know it, I know it, this is just a money grab from clubs who want to ride on the A-league owners coat tails who have lost millions, whilst these same tin pots with their 60 year histories get 200 people to a derby. I know you are panicking because your plastic monopoly is coming to an end and you know the foreign pensioners just wont be able to keep up with the young aussie kids in the 2nd div. The facts hurt and you dont know where to turn so you are just lashing out. It's OK, you may become a HAL bitter for while but you will get over it. ps who did you think went to the Knights games when they were in the NSL, the Bentleigh Greeks (sorry mean Greens) supporters? I don't actually care about the second division. The only issue is that it doesn't cause the financial collapse of the only fully pro league this country has ever had. Most people here are delusional about how popular as a spectator sport football is in this country-like the ones who thought commercial FTA would do the trick. There is little public demand for a second national league, and the demand for A_league waxes and wanes depending on the fortunes of Melbourne Victory or the star player factor. It is what it is.
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+xThis thread is full of posters who are members/supporters/affiliated with NPL clubs. Of course they are for "The Sweatshop". Me, as a Victory member, I'd like to see a second division of fully professional clubs, and eventually pro/rel, but I'm extremely wary of the plastic mono-ethnic social clubs (pretending to be football clubs), given their history of holding the game back, their cash grab from juniors, their poor administration and also the current poorly put together AAFC proposal. You are spon on, ex-NSL clubs like Brisbane Lions (Roar), Newcastle United (Jets), Adelaide United, Perth Glory & Football Kingz (NZ Knights) sure have a history of holding back the game.
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+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. The A-League cannot be just about Melbourne and Sydney. And Football Culture is about educating the newcomer to the sport how the game should look. That no we don't clap the 11yo who can kick the ball 50 metres. We clap the kid that can dribble past 3 kids or we clap when 2 kids outplay 3 or 4 opponents with inter play. We don't say get rid of it. Pretty expensive lesson. Parents deserve to know where their $1000 dollars go. 100% Victoria NPL 39 week season in NPL 3 sessions per week Cost $2,200 including GST Per session = $18.80 Or do it this way 39 weeks 117 training sessions 30+matches 147 sessions and Games = $14.96 for each one This all because of FFA regulations and its going up and the FFA TD admitted it when he said a 2 star academy will cost upto $600K to operate. with 150 kids in NPL that is $4,000 per head.
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+x+xThis thread is full of posters who are members/supporters/affiliated with NPL clubs. Of course they are for "The Sweatshop". Me, as a Victory member, I'd like to see a second division of fully professional clubs, and eventually pro/rel, but I'm extremely wary of the plastic mono-ethnic social clubs (pretending to be football clubs), given their history of holding the game back, their cash grab from juniors, their poor administration and also the current poorly put together AAFC proposal. I was going to say if the HAL clubs payed transfer fees, the cash grab for the NPL might not be as high? but then I remembered they all just play pass the parcel with the current players hence why the need for this Championship is so high. As a Tasmanian who am I too support outside of my NPL? So introduce transfer fees. As a Tasmanian you should support Victory and Hawthorn.
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Arthur
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. To add to my previous post.. What you will also see happen is, for example, if Melbourne Knights are in the 'Championship' all of a sudden supporters of North Geelong and St.Albans(if they aren't in second division) grow an interest in MKFC and the 'Championship.' They become feeder/pathway clubs to MKFC so their youth have a chance at a higher level. It doesn't happen now because they are competing against each other for players and supporters. Yes their alliance is based on ethnic heritage but that is no different to Northern Tasmanians having an interest in a Hobart club playing in a second division, only its based on a geographic alliance not their heritage. BULLSHIT. The fans of St Albans and North Geelong will not give a fig about Melbourne Knights. They're all Cros, but different clubs, with their own committees and pyramids of power. They will not undermine their club to become feeders for another club. like asking an Alexander fan to go and watch Hellas. NOT HAPPENING. You have no idea do you. Socceroos Culina, Pondeljak, Horvat, Franjic & Spiranovic to name a few, started at feeders St Albans & North Geelong, before moving to Knights & then onwards. Best you stop ranting as you are embarrassing yourself. And took the St Albans and North Geelong fans with them, right? Best you stop posting, full stop. You know it, I know it, this is just a money grab from clubs who want to ride on the A-league owners coat tails who have lost millions, whilst these same tin pots with their 60 year histories get 200 people to a derby. I know you are panicking because your plastic monopoly is coming to an end and you know the foreign pensioners just wont be able to keep up with the young aussie kids in the 2nd div. The facts hurt and you dont know where to turn so you are just lashing out. It's OK, you may become a HAL bitter for while but you will get over it. ps who did you think went to the Knights games when they were in the NSL, the Bentleigh Greeks (sorry mean Greens) supporters? I don't actually care about the second division. The only issue is that it doesn't cause the financial collapse of the only fully pro league this country has ever had. Most people here are delusional about how popular as a spectator sport football is in this country-like the ones who thought commercial FTA would do the trick. There is little public demand for a second national league, and the demand for A_league waxes and wanes depending on the fortunes of Melbourne Victory or the star player factor. It is what it is. FFA is are doing a splendid job all by themselves in creating losses. Just ask the A-League owners. Worst thing that could happen is if FFA runs "The Championship".
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+x‘16 groups of new fans ‘That’s 16x0 equals 0There are no fans that can come from this BS league.Everyone has already jumped ship — ask the Hellas bitters - 99% have gone to MVThe 1% that remain that’s 20 people pollute this forum with BS daily as per this stupid topic Effectively the number of people who paid a ridiculous fee to play the game in Victoria for "tin pot unsupported nothing clubs" equates to those who bothered to watch the Sydney derby, the A League's biggest game, nationally and free across metro Australia And that's those who play in a state dominated by the AFL and Aussie rules grounds, let alone NSW where the fucking game was being played The A League metrics are so low I cant believe you would actually come here to boast about them. A game with a TV deal 13% the size of the AFL, a salary cap 1/3 of the size, crowds 1/3 of the size...And the numbers continue to drop But that's OK, because it is fairing better than leagues with no money and no interest Keep on comparing your dick to a belly button
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+xThis thread is full of posters who are members/supporters/affiliated with NPL clubs. Of course they are for "The Sweatshop". Me, as a Victory member, I'd like to see a second division of fully professional clubs, and eventually pro/rel, but I'm extremely wary of the plastic mono-ethnic social clubs (pretending to be football clubs), given their history of holding the game back, their cash grab from juniors, their poor administration and also the current poorly put together AAFC proposal. Obviously this issue is starting to agitate you. Starting to scape the bottom of the barrel now. Please keep posting you are doing more than I ever could for the creation of "The Championship"
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. The A-League cannot be just about Melbourne and Sydney. And Football Culture is about educating the newcomer to the sport how the game should look. That no we don't clap the 11yo who can kick the ball 50 metres. We clap the kid that can dribble past 3 kids or we clap when 2 kids outplay 3 or 4 opponents with inter play. We don't say get rid of it. Pretty expensive lesson. Parents deserve to know where their $1000 dollars go. 100% Victoria NPL 39 week season in NPL 3 sessions per week Cost $2,200 including GST Per session = $18.80 Or do it this way 39 weeks 117 training sessions 30+matches 147 sessions and Games = $14.96 for each one This all because of FFA regulations and its going up and the FFA TD admitted it when he said a 2 star academy will cost upto $600K to operate. with 150 kids in NPL that is $4,000 per head. Whether that is cheap or expensive depends on the outcomes. Right now, it would have to be considered a rip off. $4000 per head is absurd. Do you think Ibrahimovic parents, Xhaka's parents Ozil's parents could afford that kind of money?
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+x+x+xThis thread is full of posters who are members/supporters/affiliated with NPL clubs. Of course they are for "The Sweatshop". Me, as a Victory member, I'd like to see a second division of fully professional clubs, and eventually pro/rel, but I'm extremely wary of the plastic mono-ethnic social clubs (pretending to be football clubs), given their history of holding the game back, their cash grab from juniors, their poor administration and also the current poorly put together AAFC proposal. I was going to say if the HAL clubs payed transfer fees, the cash grab for the NPL might not be as high? but then I remembered they all just play pass the parcel with the current players hence why the need for this Championship is so high. As a Tasmanian who am I too support outside of my NPL? So introduce transfer fees. As a Tasmanian you should support Victory and Hawthorn. What a foolish and self centred comment. Without a Tasmanian team playing in a National comp the game will not grow there. They will not develop a football Culture. AFL is to entrenched there at the moment. Without a Tasmanian Team we cannot unify and help grow Football Culture and a Football Footprint.
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+x100% Victoria NPL 39 week season in NPL 3 sessions per week Cost $2,200 including GST Per session = $18.80 Or do it this way 39 weeks 117 training sessions 30+matches 147 sessions and Games = $14.96 for each one This all because of FFA regulations and its going up and the FFA TD admitted it when he said a 2 star academy will cost upto $600K to operate. with 150 kids in NPL that is $4,000 per head. Are you saying it costs $2,200 to be a junior NPL player?
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Arthur
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. The A-League cannot be just about Melbourne and Sydney. And Football Culture is about educating the newcomer to the sport how the game should look. That no we don't clap the 11yo who can kick the ball 50 metres. We clap the kid that can dribble past 3 kids or we clap when 2 kids outplay 3 or 4 opponents with inter play. We don't say get rid of it. Pretty expensive lesson. Parents deserve to know where their $1000 dollars go. 100% Victoria NPL 39 week season in NPL 3 sessions per week Cost $2,200 including GST Per session = $18.80 Or do it this way 39 weeks 117 training sessions 30+matches 147 sessions and Games = $14.96 for each one This all because of FFA regulations and its going up and the FFA TD admitted it when he said a 2 star academy will cost upto $600K to operate. with 150 kids in NPL that is $4,000 per head. Whether that is cheap or expensive depends on the outcomes. Right now, it would have to be considered a rip off. $4000 per head is absurd. Do you think Ibrahimovic parents, Xhaka's parents Ozil's parents could afford that kind of money? Hey mate that is all based on FFA regulation. LET ME REPEAT THAT IS ALL DUE TO THE FFA REGULATION OF THE NPL. JUST IN CASE IT DIDN'T SINK IN THE FIRST AND SECOND TIME THE COSTS ARE REFLECTIVE OF FFA REGULATION OF THE NPL.
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+x+x100% Victoria NPL 39 week season in NPL 3 sessions per week Cost $2,200 including GST Per session = $18.80 Or do it this way 39 weeks 117 training sessions 30+matches 147 sessions and Games = $14.96 for each one This all because of FFA regulations and its going up and the FFA TD admitted it when he said a 2 star academy will cost upto $600K to operate. with 150 kids in NPL that is $4,000 per head. Are you saying it costs $2,200 to be a junior NPL player? Unfortunately yes.
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+x+x+x+x+xThis thread is s disgrace - full of ExNSL bittersSELF INTEREST There is no way in hell this BS league will take offIt’s 2017 and your exNSL club is never coming backGot it Am I an NSL bitter if I support a 2nd Div and pro/rel, but never went to a single NSL game? Robot just brokedown. Overloaded switching between the three accounts. Random CAPITALIZATION and use of bitters!!!! not a give away? Poor Pauly. Needs more emojis. -PB
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. To add to my previous post.. What you will also see happen is, for example, if Melbourne Knights are in the 'Championship' all of a sudden supporters of North Geelong and St.Albans(if they aren't in second division) grow an interest in MKFC and the 'Championship.' They become feeder/pathway clubs to MKFC so their youth have a chance at a higher level. It doesn't happen now because they are competing against each other for players and supporters. Yes their alliance is based on ethnic heritage but that is no different to Northern Tasmanians having an interest in a Hobart club playing in a second division, only its based on a geographic alliance not their heritage. BULLSHIT. The fans of St Albans and North Geelong will not give a fig about Melbourne Knights. They're all Cros, but different clubs, with their own committees and pyramids of power. They will not undermine their club to become feeders for another club. like asking an Alexander fan to go and watch Hellas. NOT HAPPENING. You have no idea do you. Socceroos Culina, Pondeljak, Horvat, Franjic & Spiranovic to name a few, started at feeders St Albans & North Geelong, before moving to Knights & then onwards. Best you stop ranting as you are embarrassing yourself. And took the St Albans and North Geelong fans with them, right? Best you stop posting, full stop. You know it, I know it, this is just a money grab from clubs who want to ride on the A-league owners coat tails who have lost millions, whilst these same tin pots with their 60 year histories get 200 people to a derby. I know you are panicking because your plastic monopoly is coming to an end and you know the foreign pensioners just wont be able to keep up with the young aussie kids in the 2nd div. The facts hurt and you dont know where to turn so you are just lashing out. It's OK, you may become a HAL bitter for while but you will get over it. ps who did you think went to the Knights games when they were in the NSL, the Bentleigh Greeks (sorry mean Greens) supporters? I don't actually care about the second division. The only issue is that it doesn't cause the financial collapse of the only fully pro league this country has ever had. Hate to break it to you, but that league is slowly dying as witnessed by attendances and TV audience numbers and the inability of teams like Roar to get sponsors. To a very large degree, the obsession with "metrics" and the current staleness of the league is whats driving interest in a second tier as majority of football fans are getting bored with HAL. Now doubt FFA is to blame for many of the issues but so too are the HAL teams, I mean really, who would have thought Aussie audiences would be interested in a 38 year old unknown striker from Italy? Compare that with the hype & interest around Kenny Athiu's signing for Victory. Plus the constant recyling of players is terrible, this years Victory team is the team from 2 years ago just older & slower, Melb City has become Adelaide, Roar has Victory's pensioners, how can fans possible become engaged with a team when they play musical chairs. Personally I still believe expansion would be a better first step, but this isnt going anywhere so lets get the 2nd div up to bring some interest back into the game.
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+x+x‘16 groups of new fans ‘That’s 16x0 equals 0There are no fans that can come from this BS league.Everyone has already jumped ship — ask the Hellas bitters - 99% have gone to MVThe 1% that remain that’s 20 people pollute this forum with BS daily as per this stupid topic Effectively the number of people who paid a ridiculous fee to play the game in Victoria for "tin pot unsupported nothing clubs" equates to those who bothered to watch the Sydney derby, the A League's biggest game, nationally and free across metro Australia And that's those who play in a state dominated by the AFL and Aussie rules grounds, let alone NSW where the fucking game was being played The A League metrics are so low I cant believe you would actually come here to boast about them. A game with a TV deal 13% the size of the AFL, a salary cap 1/3 of the size, crowds 1/3 of the size...And the numbers continue to drop But that's OK, because it is fairing better than leagues with no money and no interest Keep on comparing your dick to a belly button I actually don't even get your point. The league is barely a decade old. Its up against a league that has some of he oldest clubs in the world of any code. In tht time it has achieved crowds 1/ 3 the size Its delusion to think that all these disparate State Clubs are suddenly going to create a league that challenges the AFL for TV dollars, and attendances. Football in this country is what is: Today's Melbournes Age has 8 stories about AFL on its homepage. Football has one on Ange and one on the Euro leagues. Its their off-season FFS.
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+x+x‘16 groups of new fans ‘That’s 16x0 equals 0There are no fans that can come from this BS league.Everyone has already jumped ship — ask the Hellas bitters - 99% have gone to MVThe 1% that remain that’s 20 people pollute this forum with BS daily as per this stupid topic But that's OK, because it is fairing better than leagues with no money and no interest Keep on comparing your dick to a belly button He has an innie
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. To add to my previous post.. What you will also see happen is, for example, if Melbourne Knights are in the 'Championship' all of a sudden supporters of North Geelong and St.Albans(if they aren't in second division) grow an interest in MKFC and the 'Championship.' They become feeder/pathway clubs to MKFC so their youth have a chance at a higher level. It doesn't happen now because they are competing against each other for players and supporters. Yes their alliance is based on ethnic heritage but that is no different to Northern Tasmanians having an interest in a Hobart club playing in a second division, only its based on a geographic alliance not their heritage. BULLSHIT. The fans of St Albans and North Geelong will not give a fig about Melbourne Knights. They're all Cros, but different clubs, with their own committees and pyramids of power. They will not undermine their club to become feeders for another club. like asking an Alexander fan to go and watch Hellas. NOT HAPPENING. You have no idea do you. Socceroos Culina, Pondeljak, Horvat, Franjic & Spiranovic to name a few, started at feeders St Albans & North Geelong, before moving to Knights & then onwards. Best you stop ranting as you are embarrassing yourself. And took the St Albans and North Geelong fans with them, right? Best you stop posting, full stop. You know it, I know it, this is just a money grab from clubs who want to ride on the A-league owners coat tails who have lost millions, whilst these same tin pots with their 60 year histories get 200 people to a derby. I know you are panicking because your plastic monopoly is coming to an end and you know the foreign pensioners just wont be able to keep up with the young aussie kids in the 2nd div. Let's not go too far hey? 1) nah 2) if these clubs get promoted they will also pay foreign pensioners
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. To add to my previous post.. What you will also see happen is, for example, if Melbourne Knights are in the 'Championship' all of a sudden supporters of North Geelong and St.Albans(if they aren't in second division) grow an interest in MKFC and the 'Championship.' They become feeder/pathway clubs to MKFC so their youth have a chance at a higher level. It doesn't happen now because they are competing against each other for players and supporters. Yes their alliance is based on ethnic heritage but that is no different to Northern Tasmanians having an interest in a Hobart club playing in a second division, only its based on a geographic alliance not their heritage. BULLSHIT. The fans of St Albans and North Geelong will not give a fig about Melbourne Knights. They're all Cros, but different clubs, with their own committees and pyramids of power. They will not undermine their club to become feeders for another club. like asking an Alexander fan to go and watch Hellas. NOT HAPPENING. You have no idea do you. Socceroos Culina, Pondeljak, Horvat, Franjic & Spiranovic to name a few, started at feeders St Albans & North Geelong, before moving to Knights & then onwards. Best you stop ranting as you are embarrassing yourself. And took the St Albans and North Geelong fans with them, right? Best you stop posting, full stop. You know it, I know it, this is just a money grab from clubs who want to ride on the A-league owners coat tails who have lost millions, whilst these same tin pots with their 60 year histories get 200 people to a derby. I know you are panicking because your plastic monopoly is coming to an end and you know the foreign pensioners just wont be able to keep up with the young aussie kids in the 2nd div. The facts hurt and you dont know where to turn so you are just lashing out. It's OK, you may become a HAL bitter for while but you will get over it. ps who did you think went to the Knights games when they were in the NSL, the Bentleigh Greeks (sorry mean Greens) supporters? I don't actually care about the second division. The only issue is that it doesn't cause the financial collapse of the only fully pro league this country has ever had. Hate to break it to you, but that league is slowly dying as witnessed by attendances and TV audience numbers and the inability of teams like Roar to get sponsors. To a very large degree, the obsession with "metrics" and the current staleness of the league is whats driving interest in a second tier as majority of football fans are getting bored with HAL. Now doubt FFA is to blame for many of the issues but so too are the HAL teams, I mean really, who would have thought Aussie audiences would be interested in a 38 year old unknown striker from Italy? Compare that with the hype & interest around Kenny Athiu's signing for Victory. Plus the constant recyling of players is terrible, this years Victory team is the team from 2 years ago just older & slower, Melb City has become Adelaide, Roar has Victory's pensioners, how can fans possible become engaged with a team when they play musical chairs. Personally I still believe expansion would be a better first step, but this isnt going anywhere so lets get the 2nd div up to bring some interest back into the game. The league isn't dying. What's happening is that people are sick of 10 teams and they are sick of no-name imports and the same players going around. None of that is unfixable Roar is run by a strange owner so what do you expect that no-one wants to sponsor them.
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+x+x+x+xThis thread is full of posters who are members/supporters/affiliated with NPL clubs. Of course they are for "The Sweatshop". Me, as a Victory member, I'd like to see a second division of fully professional clubs, and eventually pro/rel, but I'm extremely wary of the plastic mono-ethnic social clubs (pretending to be football clubs), given their history of holding the game back, their cash grab from juniors, their poor administration and also the current poorly put together AAFC proposal. I was going to say if the HAL clubs payed transfer fees, the cash grab for the NPL might not be as high? but then I remembered they all just play pass the parcel with the current players hence why the need for this Championship is so high. As a Tasmanian who am I too support outside of my NPL? So introduce transfer fees. As a Tasmanian you should support Victory and Hawthorn. What a foolish and self centred comment. Without a Tasmanian team playing in a National comp the game will not grow there. They will not develop a football Culture. AFL is to entrenched there at the moment. Without a Tasmanian Team we cannot unify and help grow Football Culture and a Football Footprint. AFL is entrenched and yet they have never had a Tasmanian team in the AFL. How did that happen?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. The A-League cannot be just about Melbourne and Sydney. And Football Culture is about educating the newcomer to the sport how the game should look. That no we don't clap the 11yo who can kick the ball 50 metres. We clap the kid that can dribble past 3 kids or we clap when 2 kids outplay 3 or 4 opponents with inter play. We don't say get rid of it. Pretty expensive lesson. Parents deserve to know where their $1000 dollars go. 100% Victoria NPL 39 week season in NPL 3 sessions per week Cost $2,200 including GST Per session = $18.80 Or do it this way 39 weeks 117 training sessions 30+matches 147 sessions and Games = $14.96 for each one This all because of FFA regulations and its going up and the FFA TD admitted it when he said a 2 star academy will cost upto $600K to operate. with 150 kids in NPL that is $4,000 per head. Whether that is cheap or expensive depends on the outcomes. Right now, it would have to be considered a rip off. $4000 per head is absurd. Do you think Ibrahimovic parents, Xhaka's parents Ozil's parents could afford that kind of money? Hey mate that is all based on FFA regulation. LET ME REPEAT THAT IS ALL DUE TO THE FFA REGULATION OF THE NPL. JUST IN CASE IT DIDN'T SINK IN THE FIRST AND SECOND TIME THE COSTS ARE REFLECTIVE OF FFA REGULATION OF THE NPL. What was it before the NPL?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. The A-League cannot be just about Melbourne and Sydney. And Football Culture is about educating the newcomer to the sport how the game should look. That no we don't clap the 11yo who can kick the ball 50 metres. We clap the kid that can dribble past 3 kids or we clap when 2 kids outplay 3 or 4 opponents with inter play. We don't say get rid of it. Pretty expensive lesson. Parents deserve to know where their $1000 dollars go. 100% Victoria NPL 39 week season in NPL 3 sessions per week Cost $2,200 including GST Per session = $18.80 Or do it this way 39 weeks 117 training sessions 30+matches 147 sessions and Games = $14.96 for each one This all because of FFA regulations and its going up and the FFA TD admitted it when he said a 2 star academy will cost upto $600K to operate. with 150 kids in NPL that is $4,000 per head. Whether that is cheap or expensive depends on the outcomes. Right now, it would have to be considered a rip off. $4000 per head is absurd. Do you think Ibrahimovic parents, Xhaka's parents Ozil's parents could afford that kind of money? Hey mate that is all based on FFA regulation. LET ME REPEAT THAT IS ALL DUE TO THE FFA REGULATION OF THE NPL. JUST IN CASE IT DIDN'T SINK IN THE FIRST AND SECOND TIME THE COSTS ARE REFLECTIVE OF FFA REGULATION OF THE NPL. What regulations are those?
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+x+x+x+xThis thread is full of posters who are members/supporters/affiliated with NPL clubs. Of course they are for "The Sweatshop". Me, as a Victory member, I'd like to see a second division of fully professional clubs, and eventually pro/rel, but I'm extremely wary of the plastic mono-ethnic social clubs (pretending to be football clubs), given their history of holding the game back, their cash grab from juniors, their poor administration and also the current poorly put together AAFC proposal. I was going to say if the HAL clubs payed transfer fees, the cash grab for the NPL might not be as high? but then I remembered they all just play pass the parcel with the current players hence why the need for this Championship is so high. As a Tasmanian who am I too support outside of my NPL? So introduce transfer fees. As a Tasmanian you should support Victory and Hawthorn. What a foolish and self centred comment. Without a Tasmanian team playing in a National comp the game will not grow there. They will not develop a football Culture. AFL is to entrenched there at the moment. Without a Tasmanian Team we cannot unify and help grow Football Culture and a Football Footprint. Football's footprint in Tasmania is going quite well. Player registration level is 2.3% of population and is the highest of the AFL states. The national average is 2.5%. A Tassie club in a national competition would provide a focus to further grow the game here.
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ExNSL bitters guess what- HELLAS is never coming back
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. To add to my previous post.. What you will also see happen is, for example, if Melbourne Knights are in the 'Championship' all of a sudden supporters of North Geelong and St.Albans(if they aren't in second division) grow an interest in MKFC and the 'Championship.' They become feeder/pathway clubs to MKFC so their youth have a chance at a higher level. It doesn't happen now because they are competing against each other for players and supporters. Yes their alliance is based on ethnic heritage but that is no different to Northern Tasmanians having an interest in a Hobart club playing in a second division, only its based on a geographic alliance not their heritage. BULLSHIT. The fans of St Albans and North Geelong will not give a fig about Melbourne Knights. They're all Cros, but different clubs, with their own committees and pyramids of power. They will not undermine their club to become feeders for another club. like asking an Alexander fan to go and watch Hellas. NOT HAPPENING. You have no idea do you. Socceroos Culina, Pondeljak, Horvat, Franjic & Spiranovic to name a few, started at feeders St Albans & North Geelong, before moving to Knights & then onwards. Best you stop ranting as you are embarrassing yourself. And took the St Albans and North Geelong fans with them, right? Best you stop posting, full stop. You know it, I know it, this is just a money grab from clubs who want to ride on the A-league owners coat tails who have lost millions, whilst these same tin pots with their 60 year histories get 200 people to a derby. I know you are panicking because your plastic monopoly is coming to an end and you know the foreign pensioners just wont be able to keep up with the young aussie kids in the 2nd div. The facts hurt and you dont know where to turn so you are just lashing out. It's OK, you may become a HAL bitter for while but you will get over it. ps who did you think went to the Knights games when they were in the NSL, the Bentleigh Greeks (sorry mean Greens) supporters? I don't actually care about the second division. The only issue is that it doesn't cause the financial collapse of the only fully pro league this country has ever had. Hate to break it to you, but that league is slowly dying as witnessed by attendances and TV audience numbers and the inability of teams like Roar to get sponsors. To a very large degree, the obsession with "metrics" and the current staleness of the league is whats driving interest in a second tier as majority of football fans are getting bored with HAL. Now doubt FFA is to blame for many of the issues but so too are the HAL teams, I mean really, who would have thought Aussie audiences would be interested in a 38 year old unknown striker from Italy? Compare that with the hype & interest around Kenny Athiu's signing for Victory. Plus the constant recyling of players is terrible, this years Victory team is the team from 2 years ago just older & slower, Melb City has become Adelaide, Roar has Victory's pensioners, how can fans possible become engaged with a team when they play musical chairs. Personally I still believe expansion would be a better first step, but this isnt going anywhere so lets get the 2nd div up to bring some interest back into the game. The league isn't dying. What's happening is that people are sick of 10 teams and they are sick of no-name imports and the same players going around. None of that is unfixable Roar is run by a strange owner so what do you expect that no-one wants to sponsor them. Trust me, it is. I am actively involved in football scene & 3 seasons ago there was real excitement around HAL from all the players & parents at the club, back end of last season you could see the interest dropping rapidly, and this season hardly anyone talks about the HAL. This isnt euro-snobbery at work, the interest is fading fast and most seriously, many of the people associated with youth football are disillusioned with HAL teams and lack of opportunity given to Aussie youth, which drives negative attitudes among the kids as they see no chance to play for HAL. 100% agree, it's fixable but lack of action & vision by FFA & HAL teams means nothing will change.
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+x+x+xThis thread is full of posters who are members/supporters/affiliated with NPL clubs. Of course they are for "The Sweatshop". Me, as a Victory member, I'd like to see a second division of fully professional clubs, and eventually pro/rel, but I'm extremely wary of the plastic mono-ethnic social clubs (pretending to be football clubs), given their history of holding the game back, their cash grab from juniors, their poor administration and also the current poorly put together AAFC proposal. I was going to say if the HAL clubs payed transfer fees, the cash grab for the NPL might not be as high? but then I remembered they all just play pass the parcel with the current players hence why the need for this Championship is so high. As a Tasmanian who am I too support outside of my NPL? So introduce transfer fees. As a Tasmanian you should support Victory and Hawthorn. Why should I?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". What you don't understand is the importance of building Football Culture. If we don't develop Football Culture there will be no fans for the A-League. There will be no players of the level we need to build international success. There will not be enough infrastructure to cater for players. If money becomes a problem for a particular Club there will be 10 ready to take their place. No fans for the A-League? What were the 35,000 that turned up to watch a game in Melbourne AFL heartland and Sydney NRL heartland. No fans, please. The reason why the A-league can't turrn players in to fan is because we have a gazillion tin pot clubs, each with a copile of 100 fans all of whom are wrapped up in their tin pot clubs to not give a fig about any other club outside of it, but rock up on Monday with EPL replica shirts. BTW, you mentioned that State clubs pay players $1k per game. For farken what? Being a shit kicker? Its no wonder parents are forking out $1000 in fees when basketball and AFL charge about $150- all these shit kickers need to supplement their weekly wage. And what do parents get for the hundreds of millions that they throwing at State Federations- where are are your players playing as seniors- oh yeah the local tin pot State league club. Its a a Ponzi scheme funded by gullible parents. The A-League cannot be just about Melbourne and Sydney. And Football Culture is about educating the newcomer to the sport how the game should look. That no we don't clap the 11yo who can kick the ball 50 metres. We clap the kid that can dribble past 3 kids or we clap when 2 kids outplay 3 or 4 opponents with inter play. We don't say get rid of it. Pretty expensive lesson. Parents deserve to know where their $1000 dollars go. 100% Victoria NPL 39 week season in NPL 3 sessions per week Cost $2,200 including GST Per session = $18.80 Or do it this way 39 weeks 117 training sessions 30+matches 147 sessions and Games = $14.96 for each one This all because of FFA regulations and its going up and the FFA TD admitted it when he said a 2 star academy will cost upto $600K to operate. with 150 kids in NPL that is $4,000 per head. Whether that is cheap or expensive depends on the outcomes. Right now, it would have to be considered a rip off. $4000 per head is absurd. Do you think Ibrahimovic parents, Xhaka's parents Ozil's parents could afford that kind of money? Hey mate that is all based on FFA regulation. LET ME REPEAT THAT IS ALL DUE TO THE FFA REGULATION OF THE NPL. JUST IN CASE IT DIDN'T SINK IN THE FIRST AND SECOND TIME THE COSTS ARE REFLECTIVE OF FFA REGULATION OF THE NPL. Yes but the NPL clubs can offset those costs through raising income via other methods than simply increasing fees. I would love it if the FFA had the funds to reduce fees for players, but ultimately they don't. So NPL clubs need to be a bit smarter how they do business, if they want to reduce the fees for their players. There is an old saying "if you want it bad enough you'll find a way, otherwise you'll find an excuse"
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