Believe it or not Bluebird, smaller the stadium the less the expenses are. You'll make considerably more profit filling out a 20k seat stadium than filling 20k in a bigger stadium. Not to mention it looks a better product which means more viewers, which means more money in a tv deal.

SFC and MV have better deals in the bigger stadiums. Adelaide pay considerably more for hindmarsh

Its not just the venue rental, but also the cost of building the thing

And which of these small venues have high ratings? The club determines the ratings, not the venue. 70% of this is said to come from Syd and Melb

Sounds like a lot of guess work in your post. Just like the guess work by people who said being on a commercial network will give higher ratings

Of course they have better deals because they play there about 3-5 times a year and it is far from guess work that smaller stadiums have less expenses and i have an entire world of evidence to support that if you so wish. Do you think South Melbourne playing out at Lakeside are going to get more profit getting 10k at Lakeside every week or 10k at etihad or Aami park if they were hypothetically in the league. As would the Roar if they could find a more suitable stadium themselves and every possible new team which could join the league.

Also less empty seats makes the game more marketable, it'll also make the experience of going to a game more enjoyable and generally the more marketable sand enjoyable something is demand will increase the only question is by how much.

There are also many more problems which are more serious than this, but for certain clubs which may not be in the league yet or currently are need venues which will help them be sustainable. It is just common sense.

No idea, as most of the stadiums in the US are mostly privately funded normally with some government help in the form of tax breaks...

I am not sure the AFL's ability to get governments to build them stadiums is a good example as most stadiums in Europe and the US are in the main privately funded.

I do know the MLS is expanding to 28 teams by 2020 I think, there is one decided and 5 to add and they have 13 bids in of which 3 bids are very weak and maybe 6 to 7 are strong .... the stadiums they are saying they will build vary from 20K too 30k ... so I guess is that is were the US market is about. 

7pm on a rainy Sunday night. Yes an excuse and a bloody good one.

Anyone know the MV v WSW crowd

21,577 Mid

thanks

Spot on! Having lived in Florence, let me tell you that anyone living in the city or in the near vicinity lives and breathes Fiorentina. However outside of it, if you don't live in the actual cities/towns themselves, supporters will tend to support either of the Milan clubs or Juve. There is absolutely no chance someone from FLorence would support Empoli unless they grew up in the heart of Empoli town. Again, they would either go for Fiorentina or the big clubs. 

So you have to take the population factor into account. So with a population of 46,000, their crowds are solid. Wouldn't say fantastic, but certainly much much MUCH better than Wellington etc.

CC v Syd 7873 (source CCM twitter)


We're in strife this year

CCM playing on a Friday night is always going to be tough, especially when Sydney are on too.  Having them play in Sydney on a Friday night would probably work better for the commuters

Friday night sucks, Saturday 5pm is a shit time, can't make Saturday night games i won't get back till 11! Sunday sucks because it is Sunday

Not what I was saying but go for it I don't care

It was more a response to everyone who complains about each of the time games are on as a reason for shit crowds.

2nd highest crowd for Mariners on a Friday night in 5 years except for Xmas/New Year games.

After all variables are taken in to account, all crowds are added together and it's one year v the last. We're down1,600 per game at the same point last season. The sugar hit derby crowd at homebush only accounts for 1,000 of it.

I think we will end up at 11,500-12,000 by year end.

AU v N 8416

MV v B 18098

Wellington v Perth: 6,105 (just fuck off already)

Wellington need to start pulling the Melbourne city kids free gimmick, nobody gives a shit over there.

CCM got 5k last week, And know one cared but its different for the Nixs?.

Yep.

7.5k City v WSW.
Lel.

Sunday night, kids have school tomorrow, hot weather, melbourne cup fatigue, cahill not there.

I mention this with no idea how it would impact the figures... it could make them worse.

Seems to me the best time for crowds is Saturday night, followed by Friday night for a capital city teams, Saturday afternoon, Sunday afternoon, Sunday night, Thursday night.

What would happen if we played two say 7:50 matches on Saturday night at the same time.... 

How will effect ratings, assume both down but maybe up overall in that say the two matches got 65K each or 130, and the single Saturday match may have got 75 with 40K for the Sunday night... it could be close ...

Having replays after as well ...

Not give the broadcasters as many spots.... 

Wonders aloud if it pure madness or worth considering...

So in order to (hopefully) boost our crowds, we take a game away from Fox, watch the ratings of both competing games go down, and then get less money from Fox in the broadcast deal.

Yep, can't see whats wrong with that at all.

Anyone got the  crowds for the Nix V Perth & MC V WSW

They’re already in this thread Mid

Not quite. 

MC crowd is 7516