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That makes me sad. I have moved recently and no longer have a sauna. I love the sauna and used it all year, even in the summer. 

I miss my sauna :(



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World Cup qualifier: 'The Tomb' awaits Ange Postecoglou, Socceroos in Honduras

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If the Hondurans have it their way on Friday, they could spend the evening dancing on a grave.

The apprehension of Australian fans over the venue for the away leg of the World Cup play-off against Honduras appears well-founded: the Socceroos are walking into a stadium locals have proudly christened "La Tumba", or "The Tomb", thanks to its reputation as the final resting place for the ambitions of a string of visiting overseas coaches.

While the warm and welcoming people of San Pedro Sula have struggled to change negative perceptions of their city, the intimidating reputation of Estadio Olimpico is one they revel in. They go to great lengths to accommodate foreigners but proudly boast their stadium will chew up visiting teams and spit out their coaches.

The heat, humidity, passionate fans and hostile atmosphere make La Tumba one of the most difficult places to play in international football. In the short time it has been the permanent home of Honduras, four coaches have been sacked directly after defeats at the Estadio Olimpico.

The first casualty was Rene Simoes after Jamaica lost there to Honduras in 2008. Sven Goran Eriksson's tenure with Mexico came at an abrupt end in San Pedro Sula, while Trinidad and Tobago coach Stephen Hart was twice sacked at the venue, once with Canada and another with his native country. Indirectly, they also claim responsibility for last month's sacking of Bruce Arena from USA after Honduras eliminated the Americans by beating Mexico at the Olimpico.

It wasn't until the qualification process for the 2010 World Cup that the venue was discussed as a primary base for the Honduran national team. At the start of that campaign, newly-appointed Colombian coach Reinaldo Rueda asked his players to choose their permanent home venue. According to Diego Paz, editor of Diez, Honduras' daily sports newspaper, those players changed the fate of the national team.

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"Most of the players are from the north side of the country. That's where the best players are born, maybe more than half the players in the national league are from this side," he said. "They could get a climate advantage and the players wanted to play close to their people, their family and their friends."

A team dominated by the minorities of the north refused to play in the capital, Tegucigalpa. The football-specific Estadio Morazan in San Pedro Sula was ruled out, deemed too exclusive with its capacity of just 18,000 and potentially unsafe. The choice of Estadio Olimpico, the 40,000-seater athletics venue built for the 1997 Central American Games, was not well received by all.

Graveyard: Honduras coach Jorge Luis Pinto celebrates after Honduras' 3-2 victory over Mexico last month, which eliminated the USA and led to the sacking of their coach, Bruce Arena.

Graveyard: Honduras coach Jorge Luis Pinto celebrates after Honduras' 3-2 victory over Mexico last month, which eliminated the USA and led to the sacking of their coach, Bruce Arena.

Resting at the foot of the Sierra Merendon mountain ranges, the Estadio Olimpico sits in a natural catchment of rain and humidity. Combined with the searing tropical heat, the south of the city makes for a nightmare venue for any elite athletes. With limited shade and shelter, it wasn't initially popular with the fans either, but that soon changed.

"People started liking it because of the results they were getting," Paz said.

Two years later, Honduras qualified for their first World Cup in 28 years and just the second in the country's history. A national holiday was declared on October 15, 2009, the day after they beat arch rivals El Salvador to qualify for South Africa. The party continued four years later when Honduras reached the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, making it two from two since moving to the Olimpico.

The stadium was decorated in the team's colours, while a designer noticed the structure at the entrance formed a giant "H" and painted it blue. It was during that period of Honduran regional dominance when the heads began to roll.

"They started calling it the home of the national team and then 'La Tumba de los tecnicos' – 'The Tomb of the Coaches'," Paz said.

The success of Honduras was not measured just by World Cup appearances but also by the scalps of coaches sacked by their own federations after failures in San Pedro Sula.

Much of that had to do with the local fans. Some Hondurans say that football has given the country its deepest pain as well as its greatest joy. Considering a football game started a war with El Salvador, it is not much of an exaggeration.

But in the Estadio Olimpico the people began to feel an ownership of their national team and stadium. When it's not used by Honduras, it's open to the public specifically for community and youth programs. It has connected the team with its people, and in San Pedro Sula football takes an importance above nearly everything.

"Right now, we have national elections in 19 days and nobody is speaking about who is going to be the next president, they're talking about who is qualifying for Russia 2018," Paz said. "It makes you feel proud of what you are, what you represent – being Honduran. We want to see our five-star flag in Russia."

The "house full" sign for the match against the Socceroos officially went up on Tuesday, yet scalpers continue to flood the streets of San Pedro Sula waving tickets at motorists. When on sale via legal outlets, the cheapest seats were sold for around $26 – a quarter of the weekly wage of the average Honduran. That price soared on the black market.

After sacrificing so much, the normally generous and hospitable Hondurans break character for 90 minutes inside the stadium.

Intimidating: Police use shields to protect Panamanian Abdiel Arroyo as he leaves the field at the Estadio Olimpico.

Intimidating: Police use shields to protect Panamanian Abdiel Arroyo from missiles thrown from the stands as he leaves the field at the Estadio Olimpico.

"I've seen like 25 cups of beer rain down on our guys when they're trying to take a corner. God bless the running track," USA goalkeeper Brad Guzan told The Players' Tribune.

"The fans could look right down into our locker room from street level. The next thing we knew, people were kicking through the windows and trying to throw stuff down at us. It was pandemonium, but I have to say, it was also a pretty great adrenaline rush."

A lack of faith in their current coach, Jose Luis Pinto, and concerns over a rare long-haul trip to Australia have sown doubt in the minds of many fans over Honduras' chances of making it to Russia. But the locals' confidence in La Tumba and its daunting reputation is undiminished.

"It's very difficult," Honduras most decorated player, David Suazo, said about the play-off against Australia. "But what I do know is that Honduras has to be respected in San Pedro Sula."

A concrete stadium will vibrate as nearly 40,000 jump in unison. The noise of the drums, horns, whistles and chants make a wall of sound aided by a steep-tiered bowl. The Socceroos will dodge coins, lighters, and cups from their arrival to their departure. Local fans will be hanging from the fences, climbing light towers, painted, masked, waving flags, banners and even lighting fireworks. All the while, the groundsmen will be building another crypt in the tomb.

"You better watch out for your national coach, because he's not having a good time right now," Paz said.

For all the speculation surrounding Ange Postecoglou's future as Socceroos coach, the Hondurans have good reason to believe that La Tumba might well take the decision out of his hands.

World Cup qualifier: 'The Tomb' awaits Ange Postecoglou, Socceroos in Honduras


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Mile Jedinak not eyeing Socceroos finish line

Australia captain Mile Jedinak in San Pedro Sula, Honduras. Picture: AFP.
Australia captain Mile Jedinak in San Pedro Sula, Honduras. Picture: AFP.

Despite a rotten injury run, Socceroos skipper Mile Jedinak has no plans to finish up with the national team and has set his sights on defending the Asian Cup.

Jedinak, 33, is back in the Australian squad for the first time in five months. He’s arrived in the nick of time, as the Socceroos face Honduras this week in a home-and-away playoff for a place at the World Cup.

From early 2017, Jedinak played through the pain of a groin injury. After helping to steady the ship at English club Aston Villa, he took a couple of months off in a bid to be fit for the Confederations Cup. Realising he needed surgery after one match back — the World Cup qualifying win over Saudi Arabia — Jedinak wasn’t sighted in action again until September. But after a couple of substitute appearances for Villa, Jedinak believes he’s ready to return.

“When you have the sort of procedure I had you almost forget what normal feels like as daft as that sounds,” he said.

“It’s been a drawn out process however I’ve definitely done the work and now I’m really looking forward to ... hopefully playing the rest of the season injury free.”

Like many Australian soccer fans, Jedinak has been a frustrated onlooker as Ange Postecoglou’s side missed direct qualification for Russia.

Postecoglou’s midfield warrior has put his hand up to play a first 90-minute match since June.

“I can sit here and say I’m feeling great ... and feeling fresh,” he says. “Obviously, ideally, you would have wanted to play more games. I had the same situation in June almost and I got through 90 minutes there OK; you wouldn’t have been able to tell I had an injury.

“Knowing I’ve done some things in the past to get through ... I like to think I’m going to be in an OK place.”

That same confidence leads Jedinak to believe he’ll line up at the 2019 Asian Cup, when the Socceroos will defend their title in the UAE.

“Having had a little spell away, (international retirement) is probably one of the furthest things on my mind,” he said.

“I know I had this setback but I’m feeling fresh in the mind. “You love playing for your national team and you’d hate to be told you can’t.”

Meanwhile, Tomi Juric has broken ranks on Postecoglou’s future, saying he can’t see the Socceroos coach leaving his post should Australia reach the World Cup. As the Socceroos gear up for the first leg of their qualifying playoffs in Honduras, it remains an issue Postecoglou isn’t interested in talking about. That said, Australia’s coach did distance himself from the vacant position at fallen Scottish giants Rangers a day after a report linking him with the job. “That’s speculation, mate,” Postecoglou said yesterday. “The only thing on my radar is these two games. That’s where all my energy is. That’s where all my focus is and that’s what’s most important.” Postecoglou’s future remains a talking point after a report last month suggesting he would walk away should they qualify for the 2018 tournament.

Juric is the only player in San Pedro Sula to have diverted from the same line as Postecoglou — that their full focus is on the qualifiers, and not his future. The forward, who has grown to become Australia’s first choice striker under Postecoglou, doesn’t believe his coach would shirk the challenge.

“I just don’t see it if we qualify — sorry, when we qualify — that he goes. I don’t think that will happen,” he said.

“His main goal is to prepare us for a World Cup (and) for opposition that are at a high level.

“I don’t see him walking away from that big challenge.

“I think he’s looking forward to the World Cup and making sure that we get there.”

Jedinak said Juric’s view was “logical” but pointed out that logic didn’t always stand in football.

“Football is a funny game, it’s never that straight forward,” he said.

Mile Jedinak not eyeing Socceroos finish line


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🌧 Altas posibilidades de lluvias para mañana en SPS, durante el partido de repechaje, Honduras vrs Australia.

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🌧 High chances of rain for tomorrow in SPS, during the match of playoff, Honduras vrs Australia.


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One more sleep for me. Game at 11pm I think. Hopefully I'll manage to get a stream. Game not  being shown around the world really. 
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Switzerland with a fairly lucky 1:0 away win. Northern Ireland offered little on goal. I'd love nothing more than a win in Honduras. It's a massive ask. I really hope we come out 100% composed. 
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Less than 24 hours to go, the nerves are kicking in.
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Single most important game since uruguay at home. This is massive. I cannot wait. 

Biggest ask is for jedinak to impose himself, the rest will feed off it. Im very happy hes made it to these games. 
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whether its wise to play jedi or not depends on what sort of team honduras are

he was a traffic cone against chile, he also got dribbled around more than most players in the EPL. His positioning, aeiral and physical dominance as well as ability to cut out passes is what makes his defence good. However, he is weak against strong dribblers
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Jedinak should not play, he is not match fit. His mobility will be even worse than usual and probably his passing will be worse as well.
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ABC Grandstand‏Verified account @abcgrandstand       2hs ago      
  • The Socceroos' elongated path to qualification takes them to a country with a constitutional crisis, chronic political instability and an appalling human rights record — but first, they must play in Honduras |

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Going to be travelling in the morning unfortunately, so need to stream on my phone. Anyone know if I can do this via Fox Sports? 
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patjennings - 10 Nov 2017 10:48 AM
ABC Grandstand‏Verified account @abcgrandstand       2hs ago      
  • The Socceroos' elongated path to qualification takes them to a country with a constitutional crisis, chronic political instability and an appalling human rights record — but first, they must play in Honduras |

Well played.


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TheSelectFew - 10 Nov 2017 10:54 AM
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Well played.

Sort of fits the narrative that Simon Hill made in his article today (another discussion thread has been posted on it)
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azzaMVFC - 10 Nov 2017 10:51 AM
Going to be travelling in the morning unfortunately, so need to stream on my phone. Anyone know if I can do this via Fox Sports? 

If you have foxtel just download the foxtel app. Otherwise try the 9now app. Pretty sure they live stream and the game is on 9go.
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scubaroo - 10 Nov 2017 11:47 AM
azzaMVFC - 10 Nov 2017 10:51 AM

If you have foxtel just download the foxtel app. Otherwise try the 9now app. Pretty sure they live stream and the game is on 9go.

Brilliant, cheers mate.
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grazorblade - 10 Nov 2017 10:02 AM
whether its wise to play jedi or not depends on what sort of team honduras are

he was a traffic cone against chile, he also got dribbled around more than most players in the EPL. His positioning, aeiral and physical dominance as well as ability to cut out passes is what makes his defence good. However, he is weak against strong dribblers

Im not going to pretend im all that informed on how teams play but I've now watch 6 games from honduras's qualifiers..

They tend to bypass their midfield with long balls out wide, they do dribble but they don't really pass much (probably because of their pitch)

They give away a regular amount of fouls but id say half their yellows could be reds... they got alot of yellows. 

Against more technical players they struggle. Badly.

When they go behind their heads drop. Very reminiscent of arab team in that they can completely lose the plot. But defensively far more organised. But they do love a good old brain fart every now and then. 

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Im not going to pretend im all that informed on how teams play but I've now watch 6 games from honduras's qualifiers..

They tend to bypass their midfield with long balls out wide, they do dribble but they don't really pass much (probably because of their pitch)

They give away a regular amount of fouls but id say half their yellows could be reds... they got alot of yellows. 

Against more technical players they struggle. Badly.

When they go behind their heads drop. Very reminiscent of arab team in that they can completely lose the plot. But defensively far more organised. But they do love a good old brain fart every now and then. 

Sounds like we did the same thing. just to see what we're up against, I've watched the replays of 4 of their last qualifiers on the net and some highlights clips. I'm concerned we're playing a back 3, as they look to have pace out wide and I reckon that'll be a problem for us.

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I'll be at work tomorrow morning, anybody know of a radio stream? I can hook my phone up to the radio at work, just need the stream.
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scubaroo - 10 Nov 2017 12:03 PM
grazorblade - 10 Nov 2017 10:02 AM

Im not going to pretend im all that informed on how teams play but I've now watch 6 games from honduras's qualifiers..

They tend to bypass their midfield with long balls out wide, they do dribble but they don't really pass much (probably because of their pitch)

They give away a regular amount of fouls but id say half their yellows could be reds... they got alot of yellows. 

Against more technical players they struggle. Badly.

When they go behind their heads drop. Very reminiscent of arab team in that they can completely lose the plot. But defensively far more organised. But they do love a good old brain fart every now and then. 

well sounds like his physical presence is useful but maybe its dangerous to have him dribbled around
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Is it too much to ask from our major media outlets to provide a bit of analysis. Expected formations, how does Honduras play, is Hernandez expected to play

Or is it all about Tim Kaaaayheels ankle. 
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Luongo has to start

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azzaMVFC - 10 Nov 2017 11:56 AM
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Brilliant, cheers mate.

Fox sports has a 2 week trial I saw advertised today on the Fox Football facebook page.

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Bibi - 10 Nov 2017 1:09 PM
Is it too much to ask from our major media outlets to provide a bit of analysis. Expected formations, how does Honduras play, is Hernandez expected to play

Or is it all about Tim Kaaaayheels ankle. 

Gotta get im right for the tackles maaaaaate!

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patjennings - 10 Nov 2017 10:48 AM
ABC Grandstand‏Verified account @abcgrandstand       2hs ago      
  • The Socceroos' elongated path to qualification takes them to a country with a constitutional crisis, chronic political instability and an appalling human rights record — but first, they must play in Honduras |

did lol
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Had a dream last night the Socceroo's won 5-4 in Honduras.

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nomates - 10 Nov 2017 3:37 PM
Had a dream last night the Socceroo's won 5-4 in Honduras.

I can easily see any half decent team put 4 past the Socceroos.

Can't see us getting more than 3 goals however.


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JayEss - 10 Nov 2017 2:14 PM
Luongo has to start

I'd have to agree. Adds run and defense to the midfield ... also experienced at international level too. Could depend if felt better to start Mile and drag him when knackered, or bring Mile on after 60 minutes to stablise (if a close game).
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nomates - 10 Nov 2017 3:37 PM

I can easily see any half decent team put 4 past the Socceroos.

Can't see us getting more than 3 goals however.

Would take a 4-3 loss away
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bigpoppa - 10 Nov 2017 12:32 PM
I'll be at work tomorrow morning, anybody know of a radio stream? I can hook my phone up to the radio at work, just need the stream.

ABC radio will be covering the game
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