Agree with that just from watching the last 90 minutes. We really need to give our AFC opponents more credits.

The final ball/ finishing was poor but I thought the buildup play was excellent at times. Better than any recent away game I can think of.

did you see the pitch?

You mus have been watching another game. Yes our finishing leaves lots to be desired but we created enough clear chances to win 2-0 at least. We pressured them in defence, so all they could do all match was kick it long (you could hear their own crowd moaning at how poor they were playing ... that was down to the Aussie pressure).

Midfield ran the game, Mooy, Irvine and Luongo held the ball up brillantly ... some good combinations with the wingers.

I'd say because we didn't really play any goal scorers other than Juric may have cost us some goals, but also may have saved some goals being scored. I think Ange expected more from Honduras, and personally so did I.

I'm not writing them off yet, I'm just going through the games they have played the past year or so and the name that always seems to be on the score sheet for them is Ellis and he is back from suspension on Wednesday night, we should beat them comfortably but if we get sucker punched like we did against Syria that will change everything. Even if we go 1-0 up the pressure is still on us to not conceed. The playing surface was horrible so I'm actually thinking Honduras can't play much worse then they just did, not interested in comparisons with Asia, this tie is alive.

So? We have to play to the conditions and win the game. Had enough ball and domination to kill the tie off today but because the team doesn't adapt to conditions in attack we blew a very good opportunity to pack bags for Russia.

yeah i also saw every stationary ball hit 20 meters above everyone. 

Behich shows the benefit of playing week in week out for 2-3 years straight in a settled team in a decent league

Now 26 years old so in his prime after continuing to improve and learn his position... has played his career well and for mine was excellent tonight and was a no brainer to be selected, and should keep his spot for the home game

you have to factor in the players that were playing. we set up quite defensively than normal

I thought they played to the conditions well. You could see a lot of the balls were little chips rather than along the ground, also why crosses were aerial (usually over hit ... which may suggest they were expecting the ball to be heavier / ground at times).

Also playing on a faster pitch will suit honduras long balls and fast wingers. Pray ange doesnt play MacGowan. Need leckies pace for sure. Also would like someone else to try free kicks as Mooy has been rubbish. Jedi was good i was worried about his fitness. Gave the ball away and once just passed the ball straight out to no one but good physical presence against a physical opposition. Seriously need juric to step up a level so many wasted chances.

Extra time probably unlikely.

i recon the pitch worked against Honduras tbh.
they rely on some skill down the wings rather than graft... the game really slowed down and it did not suit their style
So... it did affect us as well but I am not sure we should complain

If a faster pitch suited them they wouldn't make their pitch a paddock. A faster pitch means the long balls require much more precision or the ball will go out or Ryan will just clear the ball easily. Not to mention it actually allows teams to play football and cut open their shaky defence.

Hats off to the ref. He has a good game. If I ever find the legend who uploaded the game to youtube I'll buy him a case. excellent quality.

It just felt like another one of those many games in the past where we dominated etc but really it was against a really poor team and again we could not finish our chances. Happy with the draw but it is disappointing because they should have won the game easy with the amount chances they had. The home leg will not be easy by any measure if we can not put our goals away.

He is no better than Omar Al Somah imo

Wow Honduran tv streamed the game live on facebook. Directo tv is the name.

In regards to the non-penalty ... I personally don't think it was a pen, neither was it offside.

I actually thought on the previous corner there was a bigger call for a pen (that no one appealed for). After the initiate clearing header an Aussie won the second ball in the box with a header and then taken out by a defender who had no chance of winning the ball. Have to see it again but on live TV looked a deadset pen.

clearly we didn't create enough to be "at least" 2-0...because look at the score board.

same crap the commentators said.

we had 3 good chances. One was the little dink from luongo, one was the ball across by risdon and the 3rd was jurics pathetic shot that he only got because the defender fell over. So really thats 2 good chances in 90 minutes of football where you have about 90% possession. thats really really poor. its awful to watch, this is the most unwatchable socceroos i've ever seen. 

We aren't brasil...

its not dominating to have 90% possession and not score a goal. its negative, anti-football. 

Also a header from Juric which he should of buried.

I'm starting to really hate these negative idiots around here. It's like they actively want Australia to do poorly so they can gloat. Fucking losers. 

And Irvine wasting that chance from Behich's cross

Juric had two good chances, one the bobble, and two the header, furthermore he over ran a cross that would 've been a tap in. I am sick of hearing "we created chances'', our execution in front of goal is & was woeful, and 1 away goal may sink us. I don't think it's going to happen that Honduras will score here as we looked far better at the back, but it will be a different game here, but we should have got more out of this game in Honduras.

Unfortunately we just have no quality striker apart from Tim Cahill, and what happens when he retires?...Blame the FFA for their failed Dutch experiments and getting rid of Scheinflug and Blanco from our junior set up.....

don't have to be brazil to make a cross or play a through ball. literally 0 through balls all game, literally 0 decent crosses from wide areas. 0. torture. 

Watching our missed chances is sickening. That pass across goal was the big one. 

Don't get me wrong, Mooy was great, its just his crossing and free kicks that let him down.