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I dont know the Irish team well enough but the manager needs to chnage 1 or 2 at HT.
He wont win with these tactics.
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Ireland remind me of Australia a bit. Robust, struggle to score and not exactly beautiful football. We definitely have some better technical ability in some areas but a lot of parallels.
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Simon Hill: All of Australia’s good play being undermined by lack of depth or options up front- SIMON HILL
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 Australia's Tomi Juric, center, fights for the ball with Honduras' Johnny PalaciosSource: APEVERYTHING but the goal.That probably summed up Australia’s performance in San Pedro Sula, where once again, overall dominance wasn’t turned into a winning result. “It’s the hardest part of our game” was Ange Postecoglou’s realistic assessment, and in that regard, it’s easy to see why the Socceroos remain so heavily reliant on Tim Cahill, who’ll turn 38 next month. The recurring pattern of heavy possession, a ridiculous advantage in completed passes, shots on goal, means zilch if you can’t put the round leather thing between the posts. It’s why the world’s top stars are normally strikers, and get paid the big bucks, and why in an Australian context, Cahill has enjoyed such a successful career. Midfielders, even defenders can, and should chip in too of course - but it’s regular goal scorers who turn decent international teams into winning outfits. Yet you can’t accuse Postecoglou of not looking. During his tenure with the Socceroos, he’s tried Tim Cahill, Tomi Juric, Robbie Kruse, Mat Leckie, Apostolos Giannou, (the now retired) Josh Kennedy, Adam Taggart, Nathan Burns and Jamie Maclaren at the point of attack. That’s a total of nine out-and-out strikers in a team that normally only fields one central attacker. Of the 83 goals scored in Postecoglou’s 48 game reign, only Cahill has hit double figures, contributing a remarkable 22 goals, more than a quarter. Of the other strikers, Juric has 7, Leckie 5, Burns 3 and Kruse 2. The only other player in double figures since Postecoglou took over in November 2013 is captain, Mile Jedinak, whose 12 goal haul includes 8 penalties. Others have contributed of course - Tommy Rogic (7), and Massimo Luongo (5) in particular, but neither Luongo or Aaron Mooy have troubled the scorers in over a year.
The Fox Football Podcast tucks into the Socceroos talking points as Adam Peacock is joined by Simon Hill and David Weiner, both back from San Pedro Sula, while Daniel Garb joins in for a chat around the A-League. Juric, who is the incumbent, actually has a very decent return in recent times, his miss in Honduras notwithstanding. Since the start of the final round of Asian qualifying, he has hit the back of the net six times. Along with an improved return from Mat Leckie in 2017 (3 goals), the pair have been the most regular providers of late. Yet the feeling remains that Australia is still searching for the “next Tim Cahill” in front of goal. Adam Taggart and Jamie Maclaren have been the pair most people regard as the likeliest to break through. But Taggart’s progress had that long injury interruption, and although he has hit three goals already in the new A-League season, a Socceroos recall is probably still a little way down the track.  Australia's Tim Cahill challenges for the ballSource: AAPMaclaren scored 40 A-League goals in the last two seasons, but with only five substitute appearances so far for his German Bundesliga 2 side, Darmstadt 98, he will need to establish himself at club level before becoming a regular in the ‘Roos line-up. Has Postecoglou missed anyone in his worldwide trawl of striking talent? There’s not many Australians starting - and scoring - regularly in the top leagues of the world that he hasn’t already had a look at. Perhaps the only exceptions at the time of writing are Golgol Mebrahtu, who has netted six times in eleven games for Mlada Boleslav in the Czech top flight, and ex-Melbourne City striker David Williams, who has five in fourteen for Szombathely in Hungary. It’s pretty slim pickings - even domestically - where the only Aussies to net double figures in the A-League last year were Maclaren, Taggart, Alex Brosque, Brendon Santalab, and inevitably, Cahill.  Australia's Tomi Juric (L) and Honduras' Johnny PalaciosSource: AFPBruce Kamau and Dimi Petratos have made good starts to the season, but neither is an out & out striker, and you can make a similar case for Mitch Duke, who has played regularly out wide (scoring just once) for Shimizu in Japan. Until the A-League expands, opportunities for young Australian strikers will remain thin on the ground, with clubs eager to fill their visa spots with foreign talent. It’s no accident that of the current top scorers in the domestic competition - Roy O’Donovan, Andrija Kaluderovic, Oriol Riera, Ross McCormack and Bobo - not one is a local. So Postecoglou - or, if he goes, his successor - is pretty much stuck with what he has for the time being. Let’s hope they find their shooting boots on Wednesday.
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Fark Rogic up there
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+xI dont know the Irish team well enough but the manager needs to chnage 1 or 2 at HT. He wont win with these tactics. 2 subs, lets see how this goes.
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I don't know. He's been quite inconsistent for the national team. For Celtic he does score when it really counts though.
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LONDON: Qualification for the 2018 World Cup has not ended for fans in West Asia: They should be getting behind Australia ahead of their second leg against Honduras today. In the world of football, the Socceroos are an Asian team and after drawing 0-0 in the first leg in Central America last weekend they stand on the verge of making their fifth global showpiece. If Australia are successful, Asia will have five teams at the World Cup for the first time (technically, that happened in 2006 but Australia had qualified through the Oceania region). There is still work to do, of course. A goalless draw in San Pedro Sula was scant reward for a strong performance by the visitors and while it means a win will be enough at home, should Honduras get that away goal then the situation will look very different indeed. Australia have the know-how, experience and coach to succeed but will be hoping that the late introduction of veteran goal-getter Tim Cahill (pictured right), still recovering from injury, will not be necessary. Cahill made the difference, as he so often has done, when he was needed against Syria in the previous round. The former Everton man scored both goals in the second leg of the playoff on home soil as the Asian champions squeezed through. Perhaps the greatest danger is — apart from a lapse in concentration giving an away goal — is overconfidence. Honduras did not impress at home, giving rise to the expectation of victory from Australians. If any country should understand the unpredictability of World Cup playoffs, however, it is the Aussies after the heartbreak of Iran in 1997 and the ecstasy of Uruguay eight years later. Should the result go the way of the Socceroos, there will be the usual congratulations from the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) but will the official statement reflect the general sentiments around the continent as a whole? It is not a given. East and Southeast Asia have been more open to the new kids on the block. In West Asia, there is more skepticism. Fans in West Asia may have forgotten the comments made back in 2006, after Australia joined the AFC, by Sheikh Talal Al-Fahad Al-Sabah, head of Kuwait’s Olympic Committee, but those in Australia have not. “We are against Australia joining the Asian continent, even in soccer,” said Sheikh Talal. “This is the biggest mistake made against Asian soccer. This will kill the ambitions of Asian soccer. “What are we going to benefit from Australia’s soccer team? Is it the experience. We might play with them once every four years.” It is understandable that there was resentment in some circles. Since Australia entered the confederation, no Arabian team from West Asia has qualified — until Saudi Arabia managed it this year. With the continent having just four automatic spots to the world’s biggest sporting event, importing a strong nation from outside did result in greater competition for places. Saudi Arabia just missed out in 2010 and had there been no Australia, perhaps it would have been different. It’s not just about that. Australia could certainly have done more to engage with the rest of Asia, especially the western half. It was always going to take time, effort and patience but talk to officials from Saudi Arabia behind the scenes and they complain that Australia has been slow to help other countries in aspects of the game where they lead, such as sports science. UAE officials say that the 2015 Asian Cup hosts could have been quicker to come forward to give the benefit of their experience, with the 2019 tournament fast approaching. The sense that Australia is happy to take from Asia, seeing it as a potential gold mine to be exploited, rather than a continent to engage in deep and meaningful mutually beneficial relationships, still exists. Yet it can go both ways. Fans in West Asia should be getting behind the Socceroos as a fellow Asian nation. A little continental solidarity would benefit all involved. Australia are the Asian champions. The side is trying to give Asia five teams at the 2018 World Cup. Having more representatives there can only increase the chances of AFC getting past the group stage and that will, among other things, raise the reputation and standing of Asian football and, in time, it could increase chances of Asia getting another slot at future tournaments. That’s a win-win situation for all. It’s time to get behind the Socceroos. Asia needs Australian win | Arab News
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3:1 Denmark. That's all she wrote.
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+xI don't know. He's been quite inconsistent for the national team. For Celtic he does score when it really counts though. Plus he is much better for national team on home soil
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+x3:1 Denmark. That's all she wrote. Far too good.
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+x+x3:1 Denmark. That's all she wrote. Far too good. Bloody Ireland. Hard to watch. Euro 16 was just painful with the hope they'd score something
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4:1. Eriksen again. Heartbreaking for Ireland but Denmark have done so well.
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thats a corner, ref let him take the shot
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Score first then let in 5....
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John why no kruse or troisi? There both far better then mooy further up the field. Problem with mooy is his so slow at moving the ball. Troisi probably not in best form kruse running in behind is crucial for us. He has most of our assist.
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I don't want mooy and rogic in same team. People say there the two best players that's debatable. They just don't gell together mooy has slow ball movement rogic likes early ball, both not the quickest. Have to go leckie kruse troisi or even lungo. Quicker ball movement on better grass.
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+xJohn why no kruse or troisi? There both far better then mooy further up the field. Problem with mooy is his so slow at moving the ball. Troisi probably not in best form kruse running in behind is crucial for us. He has most of our assist. Yeah I'm just not too impressed with their form and fitness. If they start they must perform.
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+xJohn why no kruse or troisi? There both far better then mooy further up the field. Problem with mooy is his so slow at moving the ball. Troisi probably not in best form kruse running in behind is crucial for us. He has most of our assist. Kruse's off the ball movement, and Leckie's, are important in the attacking third. They both have extreme pace too. Their worst facet of play is they are both profligate around goal for the Socceroos. Their conversion rate for goals scored from shots taken is abysmal. Their failure to score goals from so many good chances they've had puts the whole team under pressure.
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+xSimon Hill: All of Australia’s good play being undermined by lack of depth or options up front- SIMON HILL
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Australia's Tomi Juric, center, fights for the ball with Honduras' Johnny PalaciosSource: AP EVERYTHING but the goal.That probably summed up Australia’s performance in San Pedro Sula, where once again, overall dominance wasn’t turned into a winning result. “It’s the hardest part of our game” was Ange Postecoglou’s realistic assessment, and in that regard, it’s easy to see why the Socceroos remain so heavily reliant on Tim Cahill, who’ll turn 38 next month. The recurring pattern of heavy possession, a ridiculous advantage in completed passes, shots on goal, means zilch if you can’t put the round leather thing between the posts. It’s why the world’s top stars are normally strikers, and get paid the big bucks, and why in an Australian context, Cahill has enjoyed such a successful career. Midfielders, even defenders can, and should chip in too of course - but it’s regular goal scorers who turn decent international teams into winning outfits. Yet you can’t accuse Postecoglou of not looking. During his tenure with the Socceroos, he’s tried Tim Cahill, Tomi Juric, Robbie Kruse, Mat Leckie, Apostolos Giannou, (the now retired) Josh Kennedy, Adam Taggart, Nathan Burns and Jamie Maclaren at the point of attack. That’s a total of nine out-and-out strikers in a team that normally only fields one central attacker. Of the 83 goals scored in Postecoglou’s 48 game reign, only Cahill has hit double figures, contributing a remarkable 22 goals, more than a quarter. Of the other strikers, Juric has 7, Leckie 5, Burns 3 and Kruse 2. The only other player in double figures since Postecoglou took over in November 2013 is captain, Mile Jedinak, whose 12 goal haul includes 8 penalties. Others have contributed of course - Tommy Rogic (7), and Massimo Luongo (5) in particular, but neither Luongo or Aaron Mooy have troubled the scorers in over a year.
The Fox Football Podcast tucks into the Socceroos talking points as Adam Peacock is joined by Simon Hill and David Weiner, both back from San Pedro Sula, while Daniel Garb joins in for a chat around the A-League. Juric, who is the incumbent, actually has a very decent return in recent times, his miss in Honduras notwithstanding. Since the start of the final round of Asian qualifying, he has hit the back of the net six times. Along with an improved return from Mat Leckie in 2017 (3 goals), the pair have been the most regular providers of late. Yet the feeling remains that Australia is still searching for the “next Tim Cahill” in front of goal. Adam Taggart and Jamie Maclaren have been the pair most people regard as the likeliest to break through. But Taggart’s progress had that long injury interruption, and although he has hit three goals already in the new A-League season, a Socceroos recall is probably still a little way down the track. Australia's Tim Cahill challenges for the ballSource: AAPMaclaren scored 40 A-League goals in the last two seasons, but with only five substitute appearances so far for his German Bundesliga 2 side, Darmstadt 98, he will need to establish himself at club level before becoming a regular in the ‘Roos line-up. Has Postecoglou missed anyone in his worldwide trawl of striking talent? There’s not many Australians starting - and scoring - regularly in the top leagues of the world that he hasn’t already had a look at. Perhaps the only exceptions at the time of writing are Golgol Mebrahtu, who has netted six times in eleven games for Mlada Boleslav in the Czech top flight, and ex-Melbourne City striker David Williams, who has five in fourteen for Szombathely in Hungary. It’s pretty slim pickings - even domestically - where the only Aussies to net double figures in the A-League last year were Maclaren, Taggart, Alex Brosque, Brendon Santalab, and inevitably, Cahill. Australia's Tomi Juric (L) and Honduras' Johnny PalaciosSource: AFPBruce Kamau and Dimi Petratos have made good starts to the season, but neither is an out & out striker, and you can make a similar case for Mitch Duke, who has played regularly out wide (scoring just once) for Shimizu in Japan. Until the A-League expands, opportunities for young Australian strikers will remain thin on the ground, with clubs eager to fill their visa spots with foreign talent. It’s no accident that of the current top scorers in the domestic competition - Roy O’Donovan, Andrija Kaluderovic, Oriol Riera, Ross McCormack and Bobo - not one is a local. So Postecoglou - or, if he goes, his successor - is pretty much stuck with what he has for the time being. Let’s hope they find their shooting boots on Wednesday.
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This is a good article.
The only thing is it doesn't mention is how many goals scored in the HAL from the foreign contingent are penalties.
Kennedy was a resounding success. He scored 17 goals from 36 Socceroo games.
I haven't seen all Glory games this season. In those I have seen, Taggart has been very impressive.
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+x+xJohn why no kruse or troisi? There both far better then mooy further up the field. Problem with mooy is his so slow at moving the ball. Troisi probably not in best form kruse running in behind is crucial for us. He has most of our assist. Kruse's off the ball movement, and Leckie's, are important in the attacking third. They both have extreme pace too. Their worst facet of play is they are both profligate around goal for the Socceroos. Their conversion rate for goals scored from shots taken is abysmal. Their failure to score goals from so many good chances they've had puts the whole team under pressure. It concerns me that they'll rifle it over 10 times and we'll start getting panicky. Funny how I've got little faith despite both scoring well for their clubs.
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I have to admit I rarely watch the a-league, but I can't believe that Taggart is now international level. I still remember his dreadful performance against Spain in 2014, where he looked completely out of his depth.
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+xI have to admit I rarely watch the a-league, but I can't believe that Taggart is now international level. I still remember his dreadful performance against Spain in 2014, where he looked completely out of his depth. If he was able to get some Socceroo game time against some weaker teams in friendlies, it might help Taggart's adaptation to international football. Maybe has had some bad HAL games this season, but in those I have seen Taggert's anticipatory and predatory instincts around goal have looked very good. We need a greater number of clinical strikers though.
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+xI don't want mooy and rogic in same team. People say there the two best players that's debatable. They just don't gell together mooy has slow ball movement rogic likes early ball, both not the quickest. Have to go leckie kruse troisi or even lungo. Quicker ball movement on better grass. Confident of a win I think moving from a box midfield to a diamond should improve this also
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Leckie and kruse scoring rates are very poor. They are mainly wingers, tho i saw stat on Twitter the kruse has around 18 assist including penalties. Now that's a good stat to have. He definitely should be starting for me.
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I hear you John. I'm pretty confident but if I see the same slow build up like in Syria game that will change pretty quick. Early goal is crucial. Kruse leckie mooy have been in good form for club, kruse and leckie were good against Syria. Just have to be confident and hope our backs stay alert
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Happy For behich to start too. Great form
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Want Juric to start with Kruse and Mooy behind him.
Leckie to hopefully slot in for Risdon, Milligan for Jedinak if needed otherwise he can replace Wright.
Surprisingly not nervous for tonight at all. Think we'll get it done comfortably.
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+x+xOnly a friendly but Argentina lead Nigeria 2:0 and lost 4:2 while Russia fought back to make it 2:2 against Spain and currently its 3:3. Roos, nothing is to be taken for granted at all. Football van be a cruel game. Focus and win. Is it 8pm yet? So nervous. Cant think or do anything today.
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