The VAR is a disgrace


The VAR is a disgrace

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The Fans - 27 Oct 2017 8:49 PM
This CANCER needs to DIE

100%.
A concept so anti our code that you'd think that the AFL sneaked it in, if it wasn't used in the Bundesliga or made appearances in international games I'm sure it'd be someone who wanted to do our sport in.
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agga78 - 28 Oct 2017 1:17 PM
I would also point out that the  Var penalty decision even after 5 mins was incorrect,  the ball clearly strikes Mills left arm.only,  which is behind his back & against his back, so he doesn't have his left arm away from his body.
It's as clear as day, so it's an obvious error from the ref, as his position it looks like it hits Mills right arm, which is away from his body, so Var should of seen the vision and recinded the penalty. 

At the end of the day, it's just another human referee making a judgment call in a room , instead of on the pitch and like all humans, they make mistakes, so Var is useless it's never black and white, unlime goal line technology, which is, so it needs to be killed. Works 

Goal line  technology is fine and doesn't need some official in a dark room to deliberate over it for minutes on end and then make a decision just like the ref on the field at normal speed. For the good of our game the VAR is a spotted pox that needs to be stopped right now!
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Love the Var :w00t::D:P:):hehe::crazy::angry::doze::cool::rolleyes::kiss::pinch::ermm::blink::satisfied::Wow::Whistling::unsure::(:alien::arrow::smooooth::sick::exclamationmark::exclamation::discuss::blush:
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RBBAnonymous - 7 Nov 2017 1:09 PM
Gruen - 7 Nov 2017 12:11 PM

On one of the games Andy Harper and Simon Hill were discussing how one of the players was offside, and it looked like the difference in the offside was a big toe. They kept discussing this for the next 5 minutes when the decision was so close I would have been happy for the decision to be ruled either way. In fact after looking at the replay he actually looked onside. Either decision would have been fine, play to the refs whistle.

The amazing part of that piece of stupidity was that whatever they were looking at was so small and blurred that there was no possible way it could have been identified as part of a human body.  The guy would have had to be doing the splits for it be his foot.  Didn't stop the pain in the arse drones from going on and on and on and on about something nobody on the whole fucking planet cared about.  Whatever happened to calling the game?  It's become one long bitter dribble denouncing Referees and big-noting television commentators.

Apparently no game is now as important as the people commentating it.
The VAR has made even commentary worse.

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SWandP - 7 Nov 2017 9:48 PM
RBBAnonymous - 7 Nov 2017 1:09 PM

The amazing part of that piece of stupidity was that whatever they were looking at was so small and blurred that there was no possible way it could have been identified as part of a human body.  The guy would have had to be doing the splits for it be his foot.  Didn't stop the pain in the arse drones from going on and on and on and on about something nobody on the whole fucking planet cared about.  Whatever happened to calling the game?  It's become one long bitter dribble denouncing Referees and big-noting television commentators.

Apparently no game is now as important as the people commentating it.
The VAR has made even commentary worse.

Well I don't like the way Hill and Harper now refer to what the ref in the booth next to them is doing ie. "he's giving us a thumbs up about that decision"....is the VAR ref listening to the commentators? If so that's really not cool. The fact they can see each other is probably enough to have some sort of influence to be honest
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So the VAR is now seriously bringing the game into disrepute. If someone told me that Sydney had paid off the FFA to bribe the VAR for the course of the season, I would not be surprised. 
Tonight, another favourable VAR run for Sydney.
A clear error was made when Appiah tried to lob the ball into the goal and Buijs put his hand up and the ball deflected off his hand and wide of the goal.  Everyone saw it, and it was clearly shown again on the replay.
Appiah appealed for the corner, but a goal kick was given. 
If the VAR was not corrupt, then you would expect that a free kick would've been awarded to CCM and Buijs given a red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity, as the ball was travelling toward goal and would've been a goal except for his handball.

VAR it appears, amy now be being used as a tool of corruption.

Of course, it could just be that the VAR operators are totally incompetent, but that's the problem with the system. It now raises a new question of the possibility of corruption by the VAR.
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@ MarkfromCroydon

Fully with you on this VAR shit. Alas the rules are outside of the penalty area it can’t be ruled on.
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Not that this decision is controversial but the VAR just intervened to award glory an indirect free kick after the kiss-keeper handled a back pass. Glory scored from the resulting free kick move.

No issue with the call BUT the linesman and ref saw the incident but allowed play to go while Phoenix ran the ball upfield before calling the play back. Que massive (kind of, there’s only 4,000 or so there) boooo’s from the crowd.
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Not sure what the point of the VAR is when they can look at a situation multiple times and still be completely unable to apply the laws of the game correctly.
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Waz - 12 Nov 2017 2:53 PM
Not that this decision is controversial but the VAR just intervened to award glory an indirect free kick after the kiss-keeper handled a back pass. Glory scored from the resulting free kick move. No issue with the call BUT the linesman and ref saw the incident but allowed play to go while Phoenix ran the ball upfield before calling the play back. Que massive (kind of, there’s only 4,000 or so there) boooo’s from the crowd.

That is ridiculous.  I didn't think they were even allowed to rule on something like that.




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This is from page 3 of this thread.

The rules state the VAR can only review 4 types of incidents:
  • Direct Red cards.
  • Penalty Decisions.
  • Mistaken identity (in relation to a card being given)
  • Goals (did the ball cross the line, was there a foul, offside or did the ball go out of play leading up to the goal).
Decisions like yellow cards, general fouls, offside calls, out of play calls, will not be reviewed by VAR. These will only be looked into if a goal is scored.

If that's the case how did they rule on a back pass?





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Munrubenmuz - 12 Nov 2017 6:06 PM
This is from page 3 of this thread.

The rules state the VAR can only review 4 types of incidents:
  • Direct Red cards.
  • Penalty Decisions.
  • Mistaken identity (in relation to a card being given)
  • Goals (did the ball cross the line, was there a foul, offside or did the ball go out of play leading up to the goal).
Decisions like yellow cards, general fouls, offside calls, out of play calls, will not be reviewed by VAR. These will only be looked into if a goal is scored.

If that's the case how did they rule on a back pass?



They expanded the remit of what the VAR could review in Germany mid season without telling the clubs for weeks.
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Could you imagine some of the riots we would have had in the 70s and 80s in Europe and South America if some guy hiding in a box reversed a penalty call
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paladisious - 12 Nov 2017 6:16 PM
Munrubenmuz - 12 Nov 2017 6:06 PM

They expanded the remit of what the VAR could review in Germany mid season without telling the clubs for weeks.

Even more reason to hate it.

What's happening in Germany about it?  Are the fans blowing up about it like here?




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Munrubenmuz - 12 Nov 2017 6:56 PM
paladisious - 12 Nov 2017 6:16 PM

Even more reason to hate it.

What's happening in Germany about it?  Are the fans blowing up about it like here?


I hope so. Football fans need to unite against this shit. Id love to see some game boycotts in Europe. Thatd get FIFAs attention.

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So do we know if the VAR refs get the commentary when reviewing it?

Almost seems like they're being influenced.

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So brisbane denied a goal earlier in the season, due to offside in leadup. Tonight Bobo receives ball after being offside and VAR doesn't even bother to review. Go figure.
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http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2017/11/29/exclusive-fifa-look-set-railroad-video-refs-russia-2018/

So there.


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Several countries are trialling video technology, including France, Germany, the Netherlands and the United States. FIFA president Gianni Infantino is desperate to have VARs in place by the time of the World Cup but following a raft of questionable rulings – both in favour of and against VARs – there is mounting evidence that more work needs to be done in order to ensure the technology does not prove counter-productive.


All this shit and nobody even cares we put our hands up too 
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this crap hit a new low on the weekend with the cornthwaite send off. we need to line up all the pricks responsible in front of papadopolous and joel griffiths. 
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Dont know if anyone has bought this up yet, but a German Offical who ran the VAR in the Budesliga had to step down as there were allegations he was favouring a certain team. This can happen to anyone IMO, not on 'purpose' either. Even I would subconsciouly decide benefitical decisions on the team I preffered,even if I dont realise this. In addition, imagine if Strebe was abused during a match in previous seasons when he was the centre Ref by a Berisha, Fornaroli etc after they dived in the box and not awarded a pen. If that player was fouled in the box when hes manning the VAR, do you think his decision would be different to what it should be?

Another point is that I found out that the Bundesliga VAR is all ran from one location in Cologne. Does anyone have the figure on how much it costs for the VAR to be set-up at each stadium on Matchday? Seems like another unessary waste of money by the FFA.
SOURCE: (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5246317/England-excited-VAR-Germany-sick-it.html)


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http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2018/01/29/var-debate-ignited-match-changing-decisions-start-change-game/

January 29 – Far too long delays, questionable judgements, wrong decisions, contrasting opinions. The global debate over whether to introduce video technology – which FIFA president Gianni Infantino is determined to do before the World Cup – shows no sign of abating following yet more controversy at the weekend.Hardly a week goes by without VAR being either criticised or pr



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So, only the Ref, the Liney and the VAR missed it

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 7 Feb 2018 4:01 PM




So, only the Ref, the Liney and the VAR missed it

This isn't one of the five things the VAR can rule on so even if they did see it, they aren't meant to interfere in this situation. However, looking at that photo, the linesman must have been daydreaming. This, along with illegal throw-ins, is definitely something that HAL refs are pretty relaxed on and you rarely hear a whistle in these situations. 
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someguyjc - 7 Feb 2018 4:12 PM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 7 Feb 2018 4:01 PM

This isn't one of the five things the VAR can rule on so even if they did see it, they aren't meant to interfere in this situation. However, looking at that photo, the linesman must have been daydreaming. This, along with illegal throw-ins, is definitely something that HAL refs are pretty relaxed on and you rarely hear a whistle in these situations. 



So they can rule attacking encroachment if the ball goes in the net, but not defensive encroachment when it doesn't go in the net...........

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 7 Feb 2018 4:29 PM
someguyjc - 7 Feb 2018 4:12 PM



So they can rule attacking encroachment if the ball goes in the net, but not defensive encroachment when it doesn't go in the net...........

That's how it reads to me. Unless a goal is actually scored, they can't say peep. Bit unfair. The VAR can intervene on the penalty call itself, but not the resulting spot kick. Wouldn't be surprised to see the VAR included on these situations as well in the future.
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someguyjc - 7 Feb 2018 4:36 PM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 7 Feb 2018 4:29 PM

That's how it reads to me. Unless a goal is actually scored, they can't say peep. Bit unfair. The VAR can intervene on the penalty call itself, but not the resulting spot kick. Wouldn't be surprised to see the VAR included on these situations as well in the future.

I'm also assuming that as the offensive encroachment at a penalty kick, technically happens before the ball is in play, then that also can't be looked at by VAR. ( not 'in the build up' if play hasn't commenced)

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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someguyjc - 7 Feb 2018 4:12 PM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 7 Feb 2018 4:01 PM

However, looking at that photo, the linesman must have been daydreaming.

Yes, this is the guy we are supposed to rely on to get critical offside decisions right when players are running at full speed, while he's also watching the play for offences off the ball. Yet, in this situation he has ONE job to do, just ONE, and that is to ensure the keeper is on his line when the kick is taken. Meanwhile the referee is paying zero attention to the city player who has encroached.

This picture sums up the abysmal state of officiating in this country.

And let's not get started on the Brisbane non-penalty. Strangely enough not a single 'football' show has had the guts even to show that woeful decision by the ref and the VAR official. Bozza and his cronies are such hypocrites - calling out referees, and trumpeting the VAR whenever it happens to get something right, but then not a peep when it reverts back to its usual garbage.

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clockwork orange - 7 Feb 2018 6:21 PM
someguyjc - 7 Feb 2018 4:12 PM

Yes, this is the guy we are supposed to rely on to get critical offside decisions right when players are running at full speed, while he's also watching the play for offences off the ball. Yet, in this situation he has ONE job to do, just ONE, and that is to ensure the keeper is on his line when the kick is taken.

Just ONE,





plus checking the ball crosses the line

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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But he knows the VAR can help with that extra burden.
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