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Its a free world you go and find the Hal figures for all seasons if you want from Hal 1 and publish.... I look forward too your chart with all figures... 

You the accuse of selective posting while only using one of the three areas posted.... 

I am sure you can look up the figures and post easily post them.... no one is suggesting greatness nor massive support for FFA or working for FFA.... 

You post better when don't attack people who simply post available data with no comment and assume their motives... 

pretty good crowd actually, keep in mind nrl fans are still fatigued from last months grand final.

Sydney 10,063

.... wait for the turnstiles to be checked mind you

Clearly a shit multi that will be banned within the hour. 

Hates soccer, still signs up to soccer forums that mainly discuss soccer. Intelligence levels off the charts.

No one wants to go to A-league games to see old has beens running around. They should call it the retirement league plus start playing more Aussie players not some old - oops, I just ate my own poop... who played 8th division in Europe like that filthy Besart Berisha

Step 1: Add FTA regional figures to season 13 only
Step 2: Pretend season 10 never happened
Step 3: Declare something that has been a failure a success

Its easy to see which people here work for the FFA

we're miles ahead of where we were two years ago, and One already looking like a winner

This will be the lowest attended FFA Cup no doubt. If it's true the FFA is looking at Leichardt then the "bigger market" argument is a non starter. Leichardt (despite its larger nameplate capacity) will not draw a bigger crowd than Hindmarsh which has proven form filling every seat for a final.

Snap look   at cumulative figures  after 3 rounds 

Year===== Crowds ==== Fox ======== FTA

Hal 13=== 233, 386 === 1, 182, 000 == 333, 000

Hal 12=== 249, 637 === 1, 397, 000 == 280, 000

Hal 11=== 221, 893 === 933, 000 ==== 204, 000

2016 - 105,574 average 3,406
2015 - 113,893 average 3,671
2014 - 93,820 average 3,026

No wonder they wanted a Sydney Derby - needs a record crowd to match the lowest season yet. Not disasterous this season but again, not good.

Bankstown Berries	Metrostars	Jensen Park	556	32
Hills United	Hakoah Sydney City East	Gabbie Stadium	879	32
South Melbourne	Edgeworth	Lakeside Stadium	2622	32
Sorrento	Canberra Olympic	Percy Doyle Reserve	928	32
Heidelberg	Perth Glory	Olympic Park Village	2811	32
Olympia	APIA Leichart	KGV Park	1252	32
Peninsula Power	Melbourne City	Redcliffe	4017	32
Western Sydney	Wellington	Campbelltown Stadium	3189	32
Blacktown City	Central Coast	Gabbie Stadium	1667	32
Darwin Rovers	Sydney FC	Darwin Football Stadium	2680	32
Gold Coast City	Western Knights	Mallawa	1033	32
Moreton Bay United	Broadmeadow Magic	Wolter Park	1197	32
Adelaide United	Newcastle United	Marden	2551	32
Brisbane Roar	Melbourne Victory	Perry Park	3184	32
Hume City	Bentleigh Greens	ABD Stadium	659	32
Sydney United 58	FNQ Heat	Edensor Park	1252	32
Sydney United 58	Heidelberg	Edensor Park	2513	16
South Melbourne	Sorrento	Lakeside Stadium	939	16
Moreton Bay United	Gold Coast City	Wolter Park	1032	16
Adelaide United	Melbourne Victory	Marden	3342	16
Hakoah Sydney City East	Melbourne City	Leichhardt Oval	2915	16
Blacktown City	APIA Leichart	Gabbie Stadium	924	16
Bentleigh Greens	Western Sydney	Kingston Heath	1634	16
Bankstown Berries	Sydney FC	Edensor Park	2180	16
Sydney FC	Melbourne City	Leichhardt Oval	4102	QF
Heidelberg	Adelaide United	Olympic Park Village	3967	QF
Blacktown City	Western Sydney	Gabbie Stadium	4217	QF
Gold Coast City	South Melbourne	Robina	2907	QF
South Melbourne	Sydney FC	Lakeside Stadium	5747	SF
Western Sydney	Adelaide United	Campbelltown Stadium	5126	SF
				F
		Total	72022
		Average	2401

>MASSIF UPDATE

''Crowd for Sydney derby revised from 34,810 to 36,057, power outage at one turnstile meant some members waived through.''

https://twitter.com/SmithiesTele/status/922324598342823936

Perfect example of a "boutique" stadium with the appropriate capacity making good viewing at both the venue and on tv. The Roar and even Sydney would kill for a venue like NIB that generates a buzz with a 12k crowd.
Behind the scenes Perth have done well to slowly build its support in the stands with good success.

You should have actually gone to the game, the crowd looked right.

I thought the crowd seemed much bigger in Perth.

Glory v CCM 

Roar - 10,104

IT's not GWS, football doesn't fudge crowds.

If city are gonna fudge crowds why not just list something just over 10k so it looks better? Because absolutely no way yesterdays crowd was only a few hundred less then the 1st home game.

1) the large capacity venues were booked for the period of this so called "soft launch". We won't have the sugar hit of large derbies after round 10 to arrest the decline. The first 2 derbies are down 10%. This will impact the average.

2) The more concerning decline we have seen over recent seasons is in the medians. We need more data this season to assess. 

3) part of the reason for the flatter decline of the season you mention is that we had 2 clubs in Adelaide and Perth significantly renew their fortunes after slow starts. To repeat that we would likely need a club like Brisbane to utterly stink it up for half a season then repeat the same run of Adelaide. This sort of thing injects/renews interest in the later season fixtures.

We are 9k cumulative ahead of two years ago and it turned out OK because of a strong finish.  Whats to say the same won't happen this season?

I thought 9,000 or so for Melb City against the Nix isn't too bad. It seems they have a base of supporters they can build from. Hopefully some success may see them increase that.

Add up cumulative attendance and it is significantly less than a lot.

League attendance is tracking for 10% decline this season. It's  a problem.

What's City's break even point? Is it 15k like most of the league?

I don't know why we have this obsession that anything less than 100% capacity is a failure.  Our average crowds are better minus like 5 top leagues in Europe

Hopefully FFA is getting the message

34,810 for the Derby