Neither could Javier Mascherano. Jus' sayin' :-"

Someone who can't even get into the West Ham starting XI:lol:

Well apart from Richards they do have Joe Hart, Nedum Onohua and Michael Johnson as well as Kelvin Etuhu and Shaun Wright Phillips. As well as Vladimir Weiss. The players are there just not consistent starting XI players

Someone like Carlton Cole....

The whole farking team is sitting so deep. You can tell the emphasis is on sitting back and knocking it around, and as clubs know we are weak right now, they put us under pressure and don't let us do that, naturally. We need to go out there and do the pressing. We need to go out there and attack and push forward and create chances. We have scored FOUR goals from open play all farking season. We can afford to have defensive frailties as long as we are scoring up the other end.

ATTTAAAAAACK. For gods sake.

They'll cross that bridge when they get to it somehow. Probably won't come to that what with their spending and all.

That's great. How many of those were trained by the club? You know, in the outside chance that they manage to control their excessive losses enough to qualify for the champions league...

Joe Hart, Wayne Bridge, Joleon Lescott, James Milner, Adam Johnson and Gareth Barry not seeing enough game time for your liking :lol:

Richards will stay at City because he's their only HG player who sees any kind of match time.

Perception is everything in football:

Crouch
- 22 goals from 85 games @ Liverpool = Failure
- 8 goals from 45 games @Tottenham = Success

Also:
- Liverpool qualify for CL 3/4 years after 25m transfers in 4 years = Failure
- Tottenham quality for CL 1/4 year after 80m transfers in 4 years = Success

You had the opportunity to buy so man players with quality. Manchester city has so much quality they dont need and are willing to sell. Adebayor, Wright Phillips, Lescott, RIchards. Thats manchester city alone.

COMEDIAN Russell Brand has made a “generous” donation to families who lost loved ones at the Hillsborough disaster.

The entertainer decided to make a contribution to the Hillsborough Family Support Group (HFSG) after watching spokeswoman Margaret Aspinall speak at the 21st anniversary memorial service at Anfield.

Brand met Mrs Aspinall recently when he attended his book signing at Waterstones, in Bold Street.

The West Ham fan has phoned the mum, who lost her son James, 18, on the Leppings Lane terrace, on two occasions, once when he was in Memphis, Tennessee.

Today, Mrs Aspinall told the ECHO: “It really came out of the blue. He sent me a letter, which was lovely, and said he would like to meet me.

“He mentioned the group on a Billy Butler radio interview and said he had watched me speak and it was very moving.

“He said he loves Liverpool and thinks the work we are doing is very good. It was very nice of him – he did not have to do it.

“I will not disclose how much he gave us, but it was a generous donation. I met him upstairs at Waterstones and he signed his book for me.”

How dare anyone post anything about Liverpool that isn't "ZOMG they've won like the most titles"

What is it with Liverpool fans thinking there club can't be criticised

Quite few of your games. It is time for you to take of your red glasses and realise that Torres and Gerrard are not protected species and are both playing like crap.

Too old now (31?),

Crouch(sold Well done)

Kewell (Free xfer Well done)....Alonso (sold Well done)

You had the opportunity to buy so man players with quality. Manchester city has so much quality they dont need and are willing to sell. Adebayor, Wright Phillips, Lescott, RIchards. Thats manchester city alone.

What is it with Liverpool fans thinking there club can't be criticised

[size=6]New Liverpool owner John Henry & NESV to spend 'wisely' [/size]

Liverpool's new owner John Henry has warned he will not throw money at the club in a bid to solve their problems.

Henry, whose NESV group sealed a £300m takeover on Friday, watched the Reds slip to 19th in the Premier League with Sunday's 2-0 defeat at Everton.

"I don't have 'Sheikh' in front of my name," said the American, referring to Manchester City owner Sheikh Mansour.

"When we spend a dollar, it has to be wisely. We can't afford contracts that do not make long-term sense."

He added: "We have to be smart, bold, aggressive."

The takeover of Liverpool by Henry's New England Sports Ventures (NESV) eliminated the acquisition debt placed on the club by previous owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett.
But on-field troubles persist and the derby loss at Goodison Park leaves Roy Hodgson's side second-bottom of the English top flight with only six points from their opening eight games and a goal difference of minus six.

Key players such as Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres have struggled for form, while summer signings Joe Cole, Christian Poulsen, Raul Meireles and Paul Konchesky have yet to make an impact.

Off the pitch, meanwhile, funding issues have delayed the start of work on Liverpool's proposed 60,000-seater stadium in Stanley Park.

But despite the club's current plight, Henry has refused to give assurances over transfer budgets or plans for the new stadium.

"What am I thinking? How much work this is going to be. How steep the learning curve is going to be. This is not going to be easy," said the 61-year-old, whose company NESV also owns the Boston Red Sox baseball franchise.

"We realise the challenge that lies ahead if we are going to go toe-to-toe with the other big clubs. We are not asking for a long honeymoon. This is a contact sport we are in and the going can get rough sometimes. We realise that.

"We are not going to make any promises but we are going to listen and consider."

NESV, Liverpool and their major creditors Royal Bank of Scotland were accused of an "epic swindle" by Hicks, claiming the club had been severely undervalued.

Henry, whose history with the Red Sox suggests there will be significant investment to come over the coming months, denied that was the case.

And although he may not have access to the same level of funds as City's owners, the Abu Dhabi United Group , he plans to make money and not waste it on interest payments as the previous owners did.

"There were big financial issues but in the end we made a decision we really wanted to compete at this level," Henry told the Liverpool Echo.

"I know some people are saying this was a cheap price. There is no way we look at this as a cheap price for this club.

"When we arrived at the Red Sox, the New York Yankees were a juggernaut and it wasn't that much of a rivalry. I believe we turned it into a rivalry where we have gone toe-to-toe with the Yankees even though they have got a much higher revenue. They keep going up but we have gone up faster.

"The revenue potentials around the world - it is a global football club - and especially with the financial fair play rules, it is really going to be revenue that drives how good your club can be in the future.

"That is one thing that we think we are good at."

NESV is backed by 17 investors and Henry stated: "I don't think any thinking individual buys a sports franchise these days - or an English football club - to make money.

"Maybe a few, but they should have their head examined. It's about competing at the highest level in the world's largest sport for us, that's why we are here."

On Monday, Henry and fellow co-owner Tom Werner met with local MPs and supporters' groups to discuss their plans for the club.

"It was great to finally get to work," said Henry. "We met with supporters' group. No, we didn't give any assurances. We are here to listen and to learn from them and we learned a lot today.

"I think the biggest issue was a sense of disenfranchisement and their sense of not being part of their own and that is what we discussed. This was a big first step today."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9103269.stm

Is there anything Newcastle fans don't have a ridiculous opinion about?

Is there anything Newcastle fans don't have a ridiculous opinion about?

Riise was a complete liability at the end of his Liverpool career, everybody remembers his wonder goals but nobody remembers how shit he was the last 2 years he was at Liverpool... Kewell was fine to go, we actually did offer a contract a pay as you play but he rejected it, we weren't going to do our money again on him... Alonso is a different altogether we all knew he was going to be a massive loss... I'd say Crouch sale was a major mistake, which has left us rather flat up front when Keane was jetisoned after 6 months, he was never replaced because he was a replacement for Crouch, pretty much meaning we're lacking a striker


is that we didn't hear about Newcastle for 12 months


I agree, Gerrard hasn't played great, but he's been the best of a very bad bunch... so i don't think you can single out players when everybody is playing rubbish and it isn't like Rooney at United where it's an individual completely out of form when it's a whole squad

Frank Lampard is older so your argument about age is null and void

all these arguements that Gerrard and Torres should have been sold are deluded because that would mean we wouldn't be able to attract any high quality players to come to Liverpool, players such as Jovanovic and Cole have spoken that it was one of the main reasons why they joined Liverpool so they could play with those two... how are Liverpool going to attract players without those players and people forget that that cash in the summer probably wouldn't have gone to the transfer kitty but to paying off RBS loans

Getting rid of Riise, Alonso and Kewell was a mistake. Fair enough Kewell was often injured but liverpools Wings are pretty dead now and your strikers are getting zero service Either from Midfield (alonso) or the Wings (Kewell).

The best thing that happened when Newcastle were relegated

Quite few of your games. It is time for you to take of your red glasses and realise that Torres and Gerrard are not protected species and are both playing like crap.

Gerrard should have been sold for 30 mill. Too old now (31?)

It's time for you to stop commenting on games you haven't watched. How many games have you watched us play this season?

Like I said, Gerrard has been our BEST player this season. By a country mile.

Torres is looking poor, but he is still showing flashes of brilliance and is definitely still offering something. Don't be daft.

Gerrard has hands down been our best player this season.

Torres has been off colour, but there's still a long way to go.

What have Gerrard and Torres done to impress anyone this or last seson?