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Are you referring to Dman?
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+xAre you referring to Dman? Yes I said ET...
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+x+x+xTheres that other aspect Nancy pointed out...the defensive attributes of Lewis. At best I cant see Foran's defence ever being top notch again because of his previous injuries. He may get game fit but its hard to see him as robust or hard tackling as he used to be. Therefore he would need a good defender halves partner...so far it hasn't been Cogger's biggest strength. I remember Lewis was criticised for his defence early last year and he fixed that, so maybe Cogger will. It seems we have options if Lewis re-signed so it's win win if we hold onto him. Surely Lewis and Martin have shown enough for the Board to have faith in keeping them so get on with it guys. You are forever talking down Foran. His commitment is there ...I was extremely dubious when he was signed but he has shown he puts his body on the line. The injury he has suffered was, as he said in the interview last night, the result of a freak training accident. As far as Lewis goes he has been particularly impressive and could certainly play centre. Forever talking down Foran? Don't think so. Just stating the obvious that it doesn't look like he will ever be as robust as he was. So therefore we will be nursing him somewhat and protecting him defensively to keep him as effective for us on the field. I am talking about is recurring back, shoulder and hamstring problems. That has nothing at all to do with his freak training accident you mention. Of course Lewis can play centre. I never disputed that or doubted it. I was just suggesting perhaps his best position for the team (and the position he prefers to play) was in the halves. If Cogger and Foran are top of their game, then Lewis if re-signed will definately have to play centre if he wants a fg spot...no question. Funny Foran never had recurring shoulder or hamstring problems this year and was never "protected". It is well known that he has a back problem but not once did he take a backward step. Again I was one of the critics of his signing and I will admit I was wrong; Hopefully the long term programme the Dogs have for him will see him have an injury free run. Sounds like you read the Kennel a bit too much.
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+x+x+x+xTheres that other aspect Nancy pointed out...the defensive attributes of Lewis. At best I cant see Foran's defence ever being top notch again because of his previous injuries. He may get game fit but its hard to see him as robust or hard tackling as he used to be. Therefore he would need a good defender halves partner...so far it hasn't been Cogger's biggest strength. I remember Lewis was criticised for his defence early last year and he fixed that, so maybe Cogger will. It seems we have options if Lewis re-signed so it's win win if we hold onto him. Surely Lewis and Martin have shown enough for the Board to have faith in keeping them so get on with it guys. You are forever talking down Foran. His commitment is there ...I was extremely dubious when he was signed but he has shown he puts his body on the line. The injury he has suffered was, as he said in the interview last night, the result of a freak training accident. As far as Lewis goes he has been particularly impressive and could certainly play centre. Forever talking down Foran? Don't think so. Just stating the obvious that it doesn't look like he will ever be as robust as he was. So therefore we will be nursing him somewhat and protecting him defensively to keep him as effective for us on the field. I am talking about is recurring back, shoulder and hamstring problems. That has nothing at all to do with his freak training accident you mention. Of course Lewis can play centre. I never disputed that or doubted it. I was just suggesting perhaps his best position for the team (and the position he prefers to play) was in the halves. If Cogger and Foran are top of their game, then Lewis if re-signed will definately have to play centre if he wants a fg spot...no question. Funny Foran never had recurring shoulder or hamstring problems this year and was never "protected". It is well known that he has a back problem but not once did he take a backward step. Again I was one of the critics of his signing and I will admit I was wrong; Hopefully the long term programme the Dogs have for him will see him have an injury free run. Sounds like you read the Kennel a bit too much. +x+x+x+xTheres that other aspect Nancy pointed out...the defensive attributes of Lewis. At best I cant see Foran's defence ever being top notch again because of his previous injuries. He may get game fit but its hard to see him as robust or hard tackling as he used to be. Therefore he would need a good defender halves partner...so far it hasn't been Cogger's biggest strength. I remember Lewis was criticised for his defence early last year and he fixed that, so maybe Cogger will. It seems we have options if Lewis re-signed so it's win win if we hold onto him. Surely Lewis and Martin have shown enough for the Board to have faith in keeping them so get on with it guys. You are forever talking down Foran. His commitment is there ...I was extremely dubious when he was signed but he has shown he puts his body on the line. The injury he has suffered was, as he said in the interview last night, the result of a freak training accident. As far as Lewis goes he has been particularly impressive and could certainly play centre. Forever talking down Foran? Don't think so. Just stating the obvious that it doesn't look like he will ever be as robust as he was. So therefore we will be nursing him somewhat and protecting him defensively to keep him as effective for us on the field. I am talking about is recurring back, shoulder and hamstring problems. That has nothing at all to do with his freak training accident you mention. Of course Lewis can play centre. I never disputed that or doubted it. I was just suggesting perhaps his best position for the team (and the position he prefers to play) was in the halves. If Cogger and Foran are top of their game, then Lewis if re-signed will definately have to play centre if he wants a fg spot...no question. Funny Foran never had recurring shoulder or hamstring problems this year and was never "protected". It is well known that he has a back problem but not once did he take a backward step. Again I was one of the critics of his signing and I will admit I was wrong; Hopefully the long term programme the Dogs have for him will see him have an injury free run. Sounds like you read the Kennel a bit too much. I never said we were protecting him this year..it is obvious we weren't. He started off well but as the season wore on he became more and more busted....and next year fans could see that next season we would try to protect him a bit more to help him last. Same as we are doing with Bmoz. I would love to see him at FB but it is generally thought that his body couldnt handle it. It has nothing to do with Foran taking a backward step. All about getting the most out of a busted player.
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Foran is hundred per cent the worst signing of the debacle of the past two years .
The proof in the pudding is in the zero interest other clubs have had in him in the recent transfer frenzy .
At least Woods and Mbye had suitors in our hour of need . Foran not even a sniff and I suspect even if we paid half his wage nobody would be interested .
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Foran was a gamble. .. the kind of gamble desperate men take.
But while there are a lot of injury issues to manage, there is no doubt that Foran can play makes smart decisions and puts in when he is on the field.
We can't offload him as no other club is desperate. ..
But we may still get something out of him....
In 2019 we should rest him when on a short turn around or at some other suitable time...
If a desperate club with a lot of cash turns up ... then think about it then.
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+xForan is hundred per cent the worst signing of the debacle of the past two years . The proof in the pudding is in the zero interest other clubs have had in him in the recent transfer frenzy . At least Woods and Mbye had suitors in our hour of need . Foran not even a sniff and I suspect even if we paid half his wage nobody would be interested . Balso ,..never thought you would read the Kennel as well. Hard to believe that Dan so castigated me when I was against Foran's original signing yet the guy has not done anything wrong yet everyone seemingly wants to throw him under the bus. About Moses & Woods I say who?? But Foran can deliver a premiership.
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Foran may not be the X factor he used to be but, his knowledge will be invaluable to the pups in the team. I won't make any comments regarding players as what was done is yesterday's news and we just have to deal with it. How we deal with it is the Coles $64,000 question. (Apologies to all the youngsters that have no idea to my Coles reference, only us oldies know what I am on about.)
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Steve mate I love you bud you know that but you're frigging not listening . Why has nobody expressed any interest in Foran in the latest transfer window when any club knew we would be paying part wages . Why ?
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+xForan may not be the X factor he used to be but, his knowledge will be invaluable to the pups in the team. I won't make any comments regarding players as what was done is yesterday's news and we just have to deal with it. How we deal with it is the Coles $64,000 question. (Apologies to all the youngsters that have no idea to my Coles reference, only us oldies know what I am on about.) Well said ODF.
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+x+xForan is hundred per cent the worst signing of the debacle of the past two years . The proof in the pudding is in the zero interest other clubs have had in him in the recent transfer frenzy . At least Woods and Mbye had suitors in our hour of need . Foran not even a sniff and I suspect even if we paid half his wage nobody would be interested . Balso ,..never thought you would read the Kennel as well. Hard to believe that Dan so castigated me when I was against Foran's original signing yet the guy has not done anything wrong yet everyone seemingly wants to throw him under the bus. About Moses & Woods I say who?? But Foran can deliver a premiership. Balso, I am touched! But I still beg to differ. I still think there was a lot of made up press about our catalogue being put up on ebay. I doubt it was open slather no matter how much the papers say it was. Now, I will preface remarks about Kieran by saying he possibly is not a long term prospect but I also feel that there were no favours done in playing him at half back. I think Aussie -Kiwi tests were strong evidence that he needs to be at 5/8. Now there are those who would say any difference is a subtle one and they are probably right but enough to state there is a difference. Perhaps there was too much focus on him but I thought he played well. Maybe he would be the back to get a rest during a game. Maybe the opening try of the year was not typical of the rest but it showed there was class personified. I suggest it is a matter of wait and see. I may be wr...wr...wrong (hard to say) but not evident in what we saw this year.
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+xForan may not be the X factor he used to be but, his knowledge will be invaluable to the pups in the team. I won't make any comments regarding players as what was done is yesterday's news and we just have to deal with it. How we deal with it is the Coles $64,000 question. (Apologies to all the youngsters that have no idea to my Coles reference, only us oldies know what I am on about.) Mate...fully aware of the reference even though I think the passage of time has perhaps inflated the winning amount! And prime time too!!
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Last night was a hard result especially as nominated fat pr*ck was the scorer of the winning try but I still think the baggage of M'bye was one of the biggest retardants of the year. His ability to talk the talk but not always walk the walk must have caused some angst among his teammates especially when the monetary figures were being passed around. Woods was slightly different. I guess next week will show if it has just been a flash in the pan.
Leilua is now 3rd on my hated players list.
1) 17 Rorters
2)Darius Boyd
3)Leilua
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+xNancy.... how good was it just to see Lewis kick the sh1te out of the ball for touch each time we got a penalty.... unlike MbyeHe would make us an extra 15-20mIt’s them little things that the new brigade are bringing to the table each week Spot on villi. Even my 6 year old son noticed it. On one ocassion, he kicked a penalty from our 20 and near midfield and got it past halfway and my son yelled " oh yes, its halfway"
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+x+x+xI just want to reiterate that the best possible outcome we could have would be Cogger fits, Foran is fit and finds his role in the team with someone else running it for him (again hoping Cogger fills that) and Lewis excels in the centers. That's what we should all be hoping for, and more importantly trying to work towards. Unfortunately I'm doubtful the second part of the equation, Foran being fit, will eventuate. But then, OK, THEN, we make other plans. And even then the best outcome would Cogger and someone else, even a miraculously fast -tracked Wakeham wokring and Lewis performing in the centers. And it's not that I don't rate Lewis as a half, it's just that I'd like the situation that we've got halves performing well enough to shift Lewis to the centers because I think he'd excel there as much as he will in the halves. I want me cake and I want to eat it too. He could be a rock solid defensive center creative in the ways best describe by HD aka MC as a Jamie Lyons type. That's the best outcome, that's what we should hope works. If it don't and it means Lewis in the halves well fine but now we got a center problem. Foran an organising half, with a pass who isn't known for a long kicking game but creates by going to the line...that appears to be the main difference between them? I don't think he is to tell the truth, i think he can be, but I don't think it's his best game. I'd rather him... well, firstly FIT of course... and if that happens, just playing for himself and his runners. I don't want him thinking about field position or the tackle after the next, I'd rather him just playing eyes up in the now with someone else doing all the planning and talking. We asked him to run the team, and he will, but there'll always be someone more suited. And he'll always be more suited playing for himself and his supports without worrying about all the rest. Sounds like a 500k (tops) player zef. Is he a 500k player?
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+xLast night was a hard result especially as nominated fat pr*ck was the scorer of the winning try but I still think the baggage of M'bye was one of the biggest retardants of the year. His ability to talk the talk but not always walk the walk must have caused some angst among his teammates especially when the monetary figures were being passed around. Woods was slightly different. I guess next week will show if it has just been a flash in the pan. Leilua is now 3rd on my hated players list. 1) 17 Rorters 2)Darius Boyd 3)Leilua Steve, why do i find myself agreeing with you so much on this version of BDP? What have you done to the real Steve? Agree with with all above except your most hated list.
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+x+x+x+xI just want to reiterate that the best possible outcome we could have would be Cogger fits, Foran is fit and finds his role in the team with someone else running it for him (again hoping Cogger fills that) and Lewis excels in the centers. That's what we should all be hoping for, and more importantly trying to work towards. Unfortunately I'm doubtful the second part of the equation, Foran being fit, will eventuate. But then, OK, THEN, we make other plans. And even then the best outcome would Cogger and someone else, even a miraculously fast -tracked Wakeham wokring and Lewis performing in the centers. And it's not that I don't rate Lewis as a half, it's just that I'd like the situation that we've got halves performing well enough to shift Lewis to the centers because I think he'd excel there as much as he will in the halves. I want me cake and I want to eat it too. He could be a rock solid defensive center creative in the ways best describe by HD aka MC as a Jamie Lyons type. That's the best outcome, that's what we should hope works. If it don't and it means Lewis in the halves well fine but now we got a center problem. Foran an organising half, with a pass who isn't known for a long kicking game but creates by going to the line...that appears to be the main difference between them? I don't think he is to tell the truth, i think he can be, but I don't think it's his best game. I'd rather him... well, firstly FIT of course... and if that happens, just playing for himself and his runners. I don't want him thinking about field position or the tackle after the next, I'd rather him just playing eyes up in the now with someone else doing all the planning and talking. We asked him to run the team, and he will, but there'll always be someone more suited. And he'll always be more suited playing for himself and his supports without worrying about all the rest. Sounds like a 500k (tops) player zef. Is he a 500k player? I don't know what you're asking there Marki, nor how it matters in context. What matters is he's a contracted player and he's gonna get payed what he's owed no matter what you me or anyone else think he's worth. Are you saying we don't pick him in NRL because you think he's over-paid?
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forget about foran for 2018 WHAT ABOUT kerrod holland this impassible isnt NRL 1st grade materiel he cant tackle the last 3 minutes he let in 2 tries for me enough said ,but the said thing is there is no else 2 put there maybe shift hopoate back 2 the centres with j moz & even give mason ceruto a go @ fullback ceruto was the italian international fullback
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+xforget about foran for 2018 WHAT ABOUT kerrod holland this impassible isnt NRL 1st grade materiel he cant tackle the last 3 minutes he let in 2 tries for me enough said ,but the said thing is there is no else 2 put there maybe shift hopoate back 2 the centres with j moz & even give mason ceruto a go @ fullback ceruto was the italian international fullback Tony the more obvious move is to shift Holland back to fullback.. it isn't unknown to play a player who is a good attacker and a weak defender there.... From the few times I have seen Holland at fullback he has been impressive in that position.... OK he might stuff up, but knowing if he can handle that position may help planing for 2019. Ceruto might not be in the top 30, he was impressive last year, but hasn't been that good this year, from what I have seen. All things considered, avoiding the spoon, continuing to improve and giving young players a run is all we are aiming for this year.... You get a sense of where we are in the pecking order ... so try a few things as we have little to lose...
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last 8 games of the year left for the bulldogs
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tony v_2
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that s the last 8 games left about what a very hard draw
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+xthat s the last 8 games left about what a very hard draw Good.
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+xthat s the last 8 games left about what a very hard draw 2-3 wins should see us avoid the spoon. Most likely are the Tigers, Eels and Warriors.... of these, beating the Eels is critical... We may come to regret dropping that game against the Raiders, we should have closed that out...
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+x+x[quote]Last night was a hard result especially as nominated fat pr*ck was the scorer of the winning try but I still think the baggage of M'bye was one of the biggest retardants of the year. His ability to talk the talk but not always walk the walk must have caused some angst among his teammates especially when the monetary figures were being passed around. Woods was slightly different. I guess next week will show if it has just been a flash in the pan. Leilua is now 3rd on my hated players list. 1) 17 Rorters 2)Darius Boyd 3)Leilua Steve, why do i find myself agreeing with you so much on this version of BDP? What have you done to the real Steve? Agree with with all above except your
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+x+xthat s the last 8 games left about what a very hard draw 2-3 wins should see us avoid the spoon. Most likely are the Tigers, Eels and Warriors.... of these, beating the Eels is critical... We may come to regret dropping that game against the Raiders, we should have closed that out... Still in disbelief really....18 points scored against us in 5 minutes....unheard of for Bulldogs past :) Ask Parra tho how it feels :)
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+x+x+xthat s the last 8 games left about what a very hard draw 2-3 wins should see us avoid the spoon. Most likely are the Tigers, Eels and Warriors.... of these, beating the Eels is critical... We may come to regret dropping that game against the Raiders, we should have closed that out... Ask Parra tho how it feels :) Yes, not an example we should be following.... Let Parra do what they do best, we should get back to being the real Dogs,
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I always have said If you are leading all you got 2 do is defend & we would of won
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I finially found the insidesports app & can post via my iphone 👍🏿📛
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A bit more coming out regarding Bmoz to Dragons story.
I can't believe we would knock it back.
One because of the money we need and second we are always bending over backwards to let players go and not stand in their way of a good deal. Various examples..insert name here.
There wouldn't have been a fan backlash I don't think....it would have made it easier to keep Jmoz financially and emotionally cos his bro gone back to St George....got me stumped :)
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